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> Pos Malaysia Is Killing All the Online Seller !, Postage 2013 May Increase 400%

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pegasus1101
post May 20 2013, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(f1br3opt1c @ May 20 2013, 07:22 PM)
Finally they listened.. Still expensive though. I suggest still boycott!!
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Has anyone send items to US? Is the price still RM 60++???
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post May 20 2013, 09:47 PM

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How about from peninsular to Sarawak?
Want to postage my mouse to there

I still remember last time i deliver CD to Sarawak cost RM12.50
Defuq so expensive.

This post has been edited by Coldf3ar: May 20 2013, 09:48 PM
pegasus1101
post May 20 2013, 10:17 PM

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How about WEB2SHIP???
Is this good?

http://www.web2ship.com

Anyone used this before? Recommendation?
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post May 21 2013, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 20 2013, 05:50 PM)
i read that la, note: "may on the recommendation of the commission." & "may specify the minimum or maximum rates"

this 2 lines sums it up, may allows for a lot of leeway, its a loophole if you may.

in other words, post malaysia can charge as much as they want without seeking approval of the minister if no recommendation is given OR the minister sets a price too high.

so a minister can set a price x1000% of current price, post malaysia increases at x400%. no problem
post malaysia can also increase prices by 200% but no recommendation is given, minister cannot act.
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Ok la u win brah

QUOTE(lucifer_666 @ May 20 2013, 06:44 PM)
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post May 21 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(robeng @ May 21 2013, 10:38 AM)
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Ok la u win brah
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win? sien la, /k/ no meaning one,

anyway whats with the gung ho posts about such things anyway?
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post May 21 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 21 2013, 10:40 AM)
win? sien la, /k/ no meaning one,

anyway whats with the gung ho posts about such things anyway?
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i try to say the process of any increasing rates in postal services are like this:

1) pos malaysia recommend new tariff to the ministry
2) ministry will table it in cabinet meeting
3) if approved by the cabinet, then only minister will sign
4) to be gazetted
5) to be implemented

there is no such thing pos malaysia can increase suka hati

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rclsports
post May 21 2013, 11:28 AM

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Just read here, Pos Malaysia's profit has actually increased even before the international rate increased. Since the price increase, I have done NONE overseas business, the increase is ridiculous, if 20 or 30% I still can accept, but it is 200 to 400%!!

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/704351
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post May 21 2013, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(robeng @ May 21 2013, 11:18 AM)
i try to say the process of any increasing rates in postal services are like this:

1) pos malaysia recommend new tariff to the ministry
2) ministry will table it in cabinet meeting
3) if approved by the cabinet, then only minister will sign
4) to be gazetted
5) to be implemented

there is no such thing pos malaysia can increase suka hati
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To me, Pos Malaysia is kind of having monopoly in post service in Malaysia. It is unfair for us to compare the rate with other courier services like DHL, TNT because they provide fast service. For us, who do not mind slow mail and don't have big quantity, Pos Malaysia seems to be the only solution. If I am wrong...can somebody correct me because I am actually looking alternatives for Pos Malaysia surface service, slow with small quantity, of course cheaper price.


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QUOTE(robeng @ May 21 2013, 11:18 AM)
i try to say the process of any increasing rates in postal services are like this:

1) pos malaysia recommend new tariff to the ministry
2) ministry will table it in cabinet meeting
3) if approved by the cabinet, then only minister will sign
4) to be gazetted
5) to be implemented

there is no such thing pos malaysia can increase suka hati
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by right logic yes, but if you see that act has loop holes, the restricted tariff is only for cheaper rates, but more expensive its up to the ministers consent. to be fair also, post malaysia can charge as much as they want, break the law, ministry only course of action is frees (i dont see criminal charges), which post malaysia can do a dbkl on.

latter has been done before in very highly regulated industries.

ministry control is a bit different, less red tape
pegasus1101
post May 21 2013, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(rclsports @ May 21 2013, 11:28 AM)
Just read here, Pos Malaysia's profit has actually increased even before the international rate increased. Since the price increase, I have done NONE overseas business, the increase is ridiculous, if 20 or 30% I still can accept, but it is 200 to 400%!!

http://www.thesundaily.my/news/704351
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OMG! Isnt this too much? Despite profits, they still want more profits until burdening the rakyat?

pokchik
post May 21 2013, 07:48 PM

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inb4 pos malaysia profit is merely ~7% from fedex.
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post May 21 2013, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(jAkUn @ May 18 2013, 11:44 AM)
my company mmg use TNT for Malaysia.
quite good and fast delivery to your office i must say.
now everything need to be privatised..  sweat.gif
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privatised but still denominated the national service and govt do have protection policies to them. why not open the national posting services market? believe other courier companies can also lower down their price if they also got the same "protection policies".

Hong kong and china post office got e-packet like service or more products/services for SME to foster the online biz posting. pos malaysia not share the same vision??? hmm.gif
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post May 21 2013, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(ectt @ May 21 2013, 09:10 PM)
privatised but still denominated the national service and govt do have protection policies to them. why not open the national posting services market? believe other courier companies can also lower down their price if they also got the same "protection policies".

Hong kong and china post office got e-packet like service or more products/services for SME to foster the online biz posting. pos malaysia not share the same vision??? hmm.gif
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i dunno if postage pon also got protection. hardly know about it, or never actually think it exist! sweat.gif
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post May 21 2013, 09:01 PM

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Don't have others company?
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post May 21 2013, 11:33 PM

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Do not use them for now, switch to other couriers and see what happens.
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post May 22 2013, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 20 2013, 05:50 PM)
i read that la, note: "may on the recommendation of the commission." & "may specify the minimum or maximum rates"

this 2 lines sums it up, may allows for a lot of leeway, its a loophole if you may.

in other words, post malaysia can charge as much as they want without seeking approval of the minister if no recommendation is given OR the minister sets a price too high.

so a minister can set a price x1000% of current price, post malaysia increases at x400%. no problem
post malaysia can also increase prices by 200% but no recommendation is given, minister cannot act.
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the statement only says the minister/MCMC may change the rates, but didnt say that the postage liscensee (pos malaysia) can do it without the minister advised.

I'm nt law student but they can simply imply that if the minister/MCMC may not want to change the rate, the postage liscensee can change meh? i dun think so lo, if nt they will come out wif the highest price regardless to law dy la

QUOTE(robeng @ May 21 2013, 11:18 AM)
i try to say the process of any increasing rates in postal services are like this:

1) pos malaysia recommend new tariff to the ministry
2) ministry will table it in cabinet meeting
3) if approved by the cabinet, then only minister will sign
4) to be gazetted
5) to be implemented

there is no such thing pos malaysia can increase suka hati
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basically explains everything~


This post has been edited by peacenowar1: May 22 2013, 02:26 AM
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post May 22 2013, 02:28 AM

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QUOTE(+3kk! @ May 21 2013, 11:38 AM)
by right logic yes, but if you see that act has loop holes, the restricted tariff is only for cheaper rates, but more expensive its up to the ministers consent.  to be fair also, post malaysia can charge as much as they want, break the law, ministry only course of action is frees (i dont see criminal charges), which post malaysia can do a dbkl on.

latter has been done before in very highly regulated industries.

ministry control is a bit different, less red tape
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No la, dun misled lah, any evidence that what u said post malaysia simply charge ever happened in malaysia history?

No matter what want raise postal price need to get taikor minister approval (any under table biddings we dont know lah)

This post has been edited by peacenowar1: May 22 2013, 02:29 AM
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post May 22 2013, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(duckaton @ May 20 2013, 08:02 PM)
New revised rate. Small packet rate now starts at 250grams, kalau to USA RM21 setiap satu.

http://www.pos.com.my/pos/personal/general...all_Packet.aspx

still my condom weighs only 50grams, wanna send to USA  sweat.gif
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yo thanks bro. really appreciate all our member here.. here is our voice impact.

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post May 22 2013, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Renekton @ May 20 2013, 01:28 PM)
They targeting everything rclxub.gif

- LHDN more aggressive in hunting SME
- Customs also more aggressive in chasing import duty
- 4-7% GST
- Products have to be sent to Putrajaya for inspection by UMNO-connected company, new forms to be filled
- 1Care (potentially 10% of salary partially borne by employer)
- Petrol subsidy
- Electricity charge
- Sugar subsidy
- Postal charge
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you rite that rule over all section
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post May 22 2013, 10:58 AM

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lu tak suke, lu jangan kirim, inb4 pos malaysia ada manyak kroni company support, so wont die even u boikot

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