QUOTE(jonchai @ Sep 3 2013, 03:36 PM)
To capture more share ? Since now they can directly influence RRP / price points ?DIff marketing team in charge ? Diff ideas ?
Nokia Lumia 1020 & Various Nokia M$ Talk, RM2,499 with camera grip.
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Sep 3 2013, 03:38 PM
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Sep 3 2013, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Sep 3 2013, 04:58 PM) If the current Lumia line isn't cheap enough, I don't know what is. Nokia wasn't getting a huge margin from the Lumia line to begin with. Any more cuts could very well become a loss. Unless they wish to clear off inventory, I doubt they'd do anything like that. getting new/even more market share, priced right. Price cuts don't have to be massive. Also, Apple has demonstrated very well that people can be very insensitive to price. While Microsoft can influence RRP, past records have shown that they don't go for price wars. See Surface as a good example. It wasn't until they had inventory leftovers that they started to sell cheaply. Also, if we were to count on Microsoft's marketing team, we may as well just give up. Microsoft's marketing team is one of the worst in recent history. All in all, while marketshare is important, making a profit is equally important. They have to strike and maintain a balance. Lumia, for the past months, has been growing steadily, so I don't see how they'd suddenly come in and do further price cuts. Not asking/demanding, just hoping. |
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Sep 3 2013, 06:17 PM
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Sep 3 2013, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Sep 3 2013, 07:09 PM) I know where you're coming from. I was only stating from my point of view Lack of exposure and marketing as well. Many of the normal non techy people i encounter still view Nokia as a non smartphone device. ("you still use Nokia ??") Like I always say, bring the features on par with others first before worrying about marketshare, something that Microsoft really has to get it into their heads. They refuse to accept that the lack of sales are mostly caused by the lack of features (restrictions). It's either Apple/Iphone or Samsung (yes, they do not know what android is). IMHO, brand association is still king here. And then you also factor in trends/social factor/coolness/clique/peer pressure (instagram, apps) - all of which WP is currently lacking behind in. |
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strong camera competition from Honami and to a certain extent Note III (camera + all inclusive package). How well will the 1020 stack up ? Will 1020 still be marketed (and priced) as a niche device ? Hope not. And great news on the local app support from MSFT.
jonchai, the other mobile ecosystems support the features you mentioned ? I'm a pure Symbian user, and my other IOS and Android friends are all normal users, so i have no insight on the enterprise aspects of those. This post has been edited by Eoma: Sep 5 2013, 11:51 AM |
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Hmmm, RM2299 then i suppose. Although bro mwtang did say prepared to be dissapointed. :*(
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Sep 8 2013, 04:51 PM
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If the 1520 can deliver pic quality higher than 925 but (slightly) lower than 1020 in "normal" point n shoot scenarios, that'd be great. The FHD screen and SD card support gets my vote over the camera tastic 1020.
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Sep 9 2013, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(mwtang @ Sep 11 2013, 10:13 PM) eh, that day boss say got minor reduction ? I revise my predicted RRP to MYR2399. Based on estimated 5S and 5C pricing. p/s: who gets it right, boss mwtang will give a free Lumia 1020 This post has been edited by Eoma: Sep 11 2013, 11:01 PM |
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much too high. guess I'll wait.
thanks bro/boss mwtang for the updates. |
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well 2 more days and let's see how deep Nokia wants to stab their loyal Malaysian fans in the heart
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 18 2013, 10:55 AM) Half baked in over all performance including OS. Limited options, apps issued, features issue, bug issues. I skipping 1020 Yup, will wait for price drop and 1520 announcement and decide then. Nokia took me for a ride twice already (N8 and 808), so i can wait just a little longer. xSean Again, it's about perceived value. Many here don't think the 1020 is worth more than RM2k. For me personally, i think it should be priced RM1899 max. Or RM1799 if Nokia wants to gain more adopters. Maybe Nokia is thinking :"hey, it's a niche product anyway, so we can't count on volume sales/fight against Samseng/Apple in this country. So let's charge the fans more so we can make more money rather than selling it cheaply. might as well." |
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