Thumbs up for a loving/attentive wife
I wish I can find a wife who has the same character.

What about 'Carbon Fibre' look-a-like plate face? Are u offering them on the same price range?

Hi Everyone,

Anybody planning to switch their tag plates to CF Look?
Lets do a BULK PURCHASE with cx2531.
If there's no one, I'll go on my own then

cx2531: Where's your shop location?

May I humbly suggest for u to run an experiment by using a thermometer (if u have one, that is)?
U can idle ur car engine and leve the thermometer in under the hood (taped or fastened securely somewhere).
Once u have a good reading (3 reads/3 = average reading)..u can then repeat this experiment on another Forte which has the Skid Plate installed

BULK PURCHASE FOR CARBON FIBRE NUMBER/TAG PLATES (Price before bulk purchase discount RM 115 ~ 125/set of FRONT AND BACK):

Name list of interested LYN Fortezens:

1) rompers
2) seanjiaqian
3)
4)
5)

Dateline for confirmation: 25-May 2013 (this Saturday)
Location of seller:
The Seller, cx2531 is flexible to meet us at a predetermine location within Klang Valley. He will also siap pasang for us.

Ermm...my apologies, but I've overlooked another important element.
May I ask what sort of 'alphabets+numbers' will you provide at that promo price?

- Crystal numbers?
- Quality Fat and Short numbers?
- '3D-raised' but not Crystal numbers?
- Normal flat white numbers?

Your input on this will be very much appreciated

BULK Purchase of CUSTOM SIZE/BOARD NUMBER PLATES FOR FORTE:

Bro CX2531, so the below are the list of potential buyers looking to purchase the plates.

1) rompers (will PM you for the type of plate and font)
2) seanjiaqian
3) cahayamalamku
4) manchurr (not sure who)*
5) probable friend of seanjiaqian**

Proposed Date: 25-May 2013 (SATURDAY)
Proposed Location: S.Alam (close to where seanjiaqian works)
Proposed Time: from 9am onwards

Bro CX2531, may I have your phone number to call/SMS/Whatsapp pls?
Also, I'd like to send you some pics of Font types.
Thanks.

Dude, the wires should be under your car carpet, not above it.
I'm guessing that this must've happened when the SA removed your seats to wrap them up in leather and overlooked to place the wires back in its original position before delivering your car.

Resolution: Go back to your SA and request for a proper fix under your supervision. Also make sure to tell them to place the washers when bolting the seats back again so that it won't rattle.

EDIT: I know it's a little mah fan/susah for a small matter, but I hope your car wash man won't damage the wires whilst he vacuums your carpet

This post has been edited by rompers: May 25 2013, 09:20 AM

Bro, for this issue, I have an idea:

Try going to the hardware shops and get a reasonable thick rubber strip (something similar to the door strip which ppl stick onto the bottom of the house/room doors) + 3M double sided tape (the toughest kind u can find).

Then u remove the Orsen Skid Plate and stick the rubber strip all around the perimeter. This should solve the 'gap' issue.

PS - just a suggestion

I believe those are called 'Convex Mirrors'

Could you kindly advise if your 215/50/R17 Tyres hit the Car Tyre Well or Arches?
Meaning with the 215/50 thicker profile tyres, does the tyre hit your car body when u go thru bumps/humps/uneven roads/passenger load?

Dude, I must say... I love the way you analyze things.
Your description is pretty elaborate as well.
Would love to meet up with you over a TT session to compare notes/experiences.

In any case, keep up the spirit and good work.
Cheerios!

P/S - how much did u get the Voltage Stabiliser for and is it plugged into your car via the 12v Power Outlet?

Dude, if I'm not wrong, JB has more potholes on their roads compared to KL. So, your 16' rim will do you good over there.
Unless the city council already upgraded all the roads, of course.

On another note, I'm looking/planning to install a car alarm system on the Forte. Do you guys know of any, besides the original KIA system, which is compatible with our existing SmartKey?

Bro, just some additional tips..
Check to see if the car has been flooded before (i.e. - caught in a flash flood like what happened in Puchong a few months back this year).

This is just my 2-cents. Happy hunting/buying

Any update/progress with the above?
I'm worried now because I'm one of the many customers of AZ Master Motors.

I do know that there are plenty of other SCs around for me to choose from, but as a customer and also a person of principles, I would much prefer some form of business continuity with the company/SA whom I bought my vehicle from.

Besides, as part of the promotion during the purchase of my vehicle, a 20% discount is provided for the first 2 Services @ AZ Master. I've so far used 1, with 1 more to go.

I've previously written a couple of comments in regards to my first 1K Service @ AZ Master 3S Center. Here's the link to the V17 Thread Page:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2706564/+1180

I don't mean to dig up old issues here, but it seems that level of professional service from AZ Master has dropped(?). Too many new customers to handle? Or no time to layan old customers?

Can someone of authority from AZ Master 3S Service Center please come forward and provide some clarification?

PS - I know I may sound a little harsh with my words here, but pls understand the situation that I'm not a rich man and I don't change my vehicle every 1 or 2 years. It's a BIG investment/liability for me. Hence, I'd prefer if I could at least get some professional service from the people whom have earned a profit from my purchase and IS still earning because every time I service my car, I'm still paying them at a premium.

Additionally, the symbiotic relationship between a customer and SA/SC is a pretty complicated one.
If given a choice, I know some of the new car owners would prefer to have their cars serviced by non KIA 3S Centers (whom may provide a better and more professional service at a competitive price). This however is not possible, because NAZA KIA has tied the customers down with WARRANTY Terms & Conditions.
So you see the equation?
1) Customer buys car from SA (which has 3S Center).
2) SA promises the best and world-class service from his company to convince the customer and close the deal.
3) Due to the trusting/friendly relationship with the SA, customer opts to service vehicle at the same center and also recommends the SA to his friends.
4) SC Technicians provides unprofessional service through lackadaisical attitude.
4) Customer vehicle damaged/soiled/dirtied (regardless if minor or major).
5) Customer complains.
6) SA says customer is too choosy and fussy, forgetting that not everyone are millionaires whom buy cars like buying underwear.
7) Customer's friends experiences the same issue and now blames the Customer for misrepresentation and bad advice/recommendation.
8) Result? Customer = and ; Customer's friend = and ; SA/SC = Don't care as long as making a profit(?)

Sorry for the long winded post, I'm just really frustrated with people/companies making empty promises after I've parted with close to RM90K for a vehicle.

Thanks for stating the obvious
Like I said, I know there are plenty of other SCs available, but I'm a strong believer of principles.
The SA has sold us the vehicle due to his ability to convince us that he is offering the best (regardless if it is PRE or POST Sales) service.

Now that we've signed on the dotted line, things are taking a turn for the worse. Imagine how we, as a consumer feels?
While I may not know how the rest of you feel, I know I feel like I'm being suckered. And I can say that it's not a good feeling at all

Compounding matters is the fact that we are recommending the business to other parties of interest.

Now, pls don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that AZ Master is not offering one of the best deals in town for KIA Vehicles, but for customers whom would like to have the 'complete'/end-to-end experience, it would be quite a disappointment.

In case you're gonna retort with the saying that "one can never please all", I'm not a person with unreasonable demands/expectations. I do understand that there may be differences of business-goals between the Management of the SC and the Technicians, but that should be something for them to work on and not allow such incidences to dent their company's reputation as a whole.

Anyways, I do hope that someone from AZ Master will come forward with an answer.
As of now, their silence is really deafening.

PS - Do kindly note that I'm not making a personal attack against anyone here. It's more of a request for a professional service of a reasonable level to be upheld.

There are quite a number of method.
In my opinion, however, one of the simpler way would be to check the footwell area of the vehicle.
The FORTE's footwell is usually exposed and not fully covered by the carpet. You can start your 'flood' inspection there.
Look for tell-take signs of dirt or mud in areas which the driver's foot will not usually reach (e.g. - crevices around the steering column, etc.).

Hope this helps

This post has been edited by rompers: Jun 24 2013, 05:43 PM

Bro, care to share which 3rd party workshop is this?
I'd like to go there too, if that's okay with you

Pls PM me the details of this workshop, can?
Many thanks in advance.

Based on the statements above, may I propose the motion to remove (either permanently or temporarily, depending on the anticipated response from AZ Master Motors representatives) the recommendation sticky from the first page of this Forum/Thread?

I know this may seem a little drastic, but I truly believe that any prospective buyers reading this thread shouldn't be misled.

I apologise to any affected parties, but I do hope that all interested parties can address this issue together ASAP and in an amicable manner.

And I stress once again that I'm not expecting or requesting for a World Class Service here, just a service which is of an acceptable and reasonable level and with some form of professional integrity. Otherwise, there's no point asking your existing customers to blow your trumpet and recommend your service to the rest of the public.

Sorry bro. Again I'm not denying the fact that they are one of the best in terms of SALES.

However, pls remember that we are not talking about the purchase of daily vegetables or consumables here.

A motor vehicle is an asset (of depreciating value) which requires after-sales services and the expectation will be for the Sales People to at least play a part in it too.

What's the point in letting parties whom have no customers' interest at heart profit in our hard earned money when they provide sub-par after sales services?

Call me a fussy-pot or whatever you may, but I'm adamant that Sales and After-Sales Services should come hand-in-hand and at a certain acceptable professional level.

I apologise in advance if my statement above hurts any other parties whom are not directly involved in the matter.

Well said my friend.
That is a principle which I believe in as well

LOL'ed at the Chicken, ToFu and Vege story, but you have made an extremely good point here.

I agree that the sales and service is somewhat a separate issue. It's just that during the sales talk (pre-signed agreement+deposit), it was mentioned to me that the 3S Center is a place offering good service and with discount if I should purchase the vehicle from the SA.

Anyways, I'll be making serious considerations and switch my designated SC to somewhere else (Kinrara or Glenmarie).

Rightly said

Also, for those whom are interested to find out more on the correlation between the Fuel Octane Level (RON*) and your car engine compression ratio, pls click on the link below. It provides one of the best and simple description of the matter, among all the articles which I've read over the years:

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/octane-ra...r-infiniti.html

RON* = Research Octane Number
KIA Forte 1.6 Engine Comp Ratio = 10.1

Happy reading!!

I'm glad to report that AZ World Car Services (Sri Kembangan)'s Mr.SIMON and Technician (Loges) has won my confidence over back again with their top notch service and empathy during my 10K service there.

Two Thumbs Up for the both of them!

Now their mission is to impart their attitude to the rest of the Technicians there.

This post has been edited by rompers: Jun 29 2013, 05:26 PM