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post May 14 2013, 11:40 AM, updated 13y ago

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Just created an account so i can enquiry on this car.

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I am seeing many promotion such as huge cash rebate until 5k++ and many more gifts. I think this car is a better car compared to Myvi except the spaces and the Engine's cc, but somehow the difference number of drivers between these cars are so huge. What is the factor that affecting this I10 Hyundai series? Is it the resale value, because korean cars have very bad resale value.

Anyway, i am interested in this car but i am worry there are other factors which affecting the sales/performance of the car. Any opinions and reviews will be thankful because i wish to hear more about this car from everyone since the i10 car club in this forum is really bad. Thanks in advance!

FYI, i also accept recommendation on cars that fell on similar specification and price.

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post May 14 2013, 05:27 PM

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if u can ignore abt resale value..this car definitely better than viva. in fact ride and handling better than first gen myvi.
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post May 14 2013, 06:29 PM

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Resale value, which usually goes hand in hand with ease of maintenance or vice versa. Personally, I have high praise for i10 as it is pretty nice to drive, very good handling for a car so small, and handles better than 1.5 Myvi, test drive experience.
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post May 14 2013, 09:33 PM

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Despite being a Hyundai, but the only thing it beats Myvi is the handling. No wonder the number of drivers between these two cars are so apart.
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post May 14 2013, 10:53 PM

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First of all, Myvi is B-segment compact while i10 is A-segment compact. Malaysians majority are more family oriented and space is always priority therefore Myvi gets to sell more.

The i10 despite being smaller, it is made heavier to pass basic EU safety standard with additional weight added to the base of the chassis for making the car higher. i10 is over 100kg heavier than Myvi, that explains why i10 is more stable when cornering.

Since i10 is assembled by InuCom, expect some minor mistakes made by the assembly plant idiots especially those goyang kaki management. Make sure you inspect everything on delivery day if you bought i10. They do correct the tiny non-technical clumsy error for you FOC.

FC wise, if you kept revving hard like mad due to heavier chassis especially if you are used to driving lightweight A/B-segment, worst you get is 12km/L city driving for the 1.25L kappa engine. If you drive normal, you can get 14km/L and if you go lightfoot without stuck in traffic much, you can still get the 16km/L. From my result, I rated i10 slightly better than Vios FC.

Myvi is nothing more than cost cutting empty shell with 1.3L engine. Reason why Myvi could beat i10 in acceleration mainly because it doesn't have to pass EU/US safety standard therefore, they don't add any weight to bottom to make sure the car stable.

Handling stability, maintenance & reliability/durability wise, i10 wins. RV, acceleration and interior space Myvi. You go test drive both then you decide. If you're a lady and you need safe city car, go for i10. Please note i10 FC in city driving is better only if you drive patiently due to acceleration 0-100km/h difference between both cars at 2s.

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post May 14 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 14 2013, 10:53 PM)
First of all, Myvi is B-segment compact while i10 is A-segment compact. Malaysians majority are more family oriented and space is always priority therefore Myvi gets to sell more.

The i10 despite being smaller, it is made heavier to pass basic EU safety standard with additional weight added to the base of the chassis for making the car higher. i10 is over 100kg heavier than Myvi, that explains why i10 is more stable when cornering.

Since i10 is assembled by InuCom, expect some minor mistakes made by the assembly plant idiots especially those goyang kaki management. Make sure you inspect everything on delivery day if you bought i10. They do correct the tiny non-technical clumsy error for you FOC.

FC wise, if you kept revving hard like mad due to heavier chassis especially if you are used to driving lightweight A/B-segment, worst you get is 12km/L city driving for the 1.25L kappa engine. If you drive normal, you can get 14km/L and if you go lightfoot without stuck in traffic much, you can still get the 16km/L. From my result, I rated i10 slightly better than Vios FC.

Myvi is nothing more than cost cutting empty shell with 1.3L engine. Reason why Myvi could beat i10 in acceleration mainly because it doesn't have to pass EU/US safety standard therefore, they don't add any weight to bottom to make sure the car stable.

Handling stability, maintenance & reliability/durability wise, i10 wins. RV, acceleration and interior space Myvi. You go test drive both then you decide. If you're a lady and you need safe city car, go for i10. Please note i10 FC in city driving is better only if you drive patiently due to acceleration 0-100km/h difference between both cars at 2s.
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A very comprehend review. I am very light footed as i am driving 10 years Kenari and i usually drive on 2k-2.5k rpm. Any other weaknesses besides its size?
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post May 14 2013, 11:34 PM

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How are you going to use your car? Do you have children or you ferry people? Do you carry a lot of load?

I think there are better car for you to consider within your budget, but the i10 is a better car in its class
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post May 15 2013, 09:54 AM

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No children. Probably not gonna have children until 4-5 years later. Usually i am going to use this car in town (Penang) and go to work. I am avoiding sedan cars because the traffic in Penang is not so good. Fetching much people? hardly, usually only fetch my stead.
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QUOTE(AdamSasake @ May 15 2013, 09:54 AM)
No children. Probably not gonna have children until 4-5 years later. Usually i am going to use this car in town (Penang) and go to work. I am avoiding sedan cars because the traffic in Penang is not so good. Fetching much people? hardly, usually only fetch my stead.
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then i10 is a good choice for you. i've been using myvi fr 6 year (plus my mom's new myvi)..if given a chance (and money), i wont buy myvi. a good car..reliable enough..but soulless and boring. smile.gif
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post May 15 2013, 11:38 AM

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I was going to recommend the i10 over the Myvi due to my belief that the Hyundai should have better quality, and the same reason theanswer just posted.

But then I remembered this

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post May 15 2013, 11:48 AM

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not sure about msian i10. but euro ncap it's 4 star. standard requirement for asean ncap to gain 4 star is, abs,ebd, 2 airbags and seat belt reminder. i think this one is 2008 model..the basic spec dont have abs and ebd.
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QUOTE(theanswer @ May 15 2013, 11:48 AM)
not sure about msian i10. but euro ncap it's 4 star. standard requirement for asean ncap to gain 4 star is, abs,ebd, 2 airbags and seat belt reminder. i think this one is 2008 model..the basic spec dont have abs and ebd.
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Oh, I thought the ABS+EBD is standard across the whole i10 line? my mistake then
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QUOTE(dares @ May 15 2013, 12:23 PM)
Oh, I thought the ABS+EBD is standard across the whole i10 line? my mistake then
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now yes. but i've remember that there used to be non abs model for i10. 2 spec for 1.1 and 1 premium spec 1.2 version.
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QUOTE(theanswer @ May 15 2013, 12:37 PM)
now yes. but i've remember that there used to be non abs model for i10. 2 spec for 1.1 and 1 premium spec 1.2 version.
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The Hyundai website only states that the i10 has ABS+EBD, but doesn't state whether it is limited to the high spec only hmm.gif Anyway the i10 was tested in Dec 2012, so it should be a 2012 car.
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post May 15 2013, 02:37 PM

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I'm wit d others on d i10 1.25 over d Myvi.

Apart from RV, n space, d i10 would definately b more rewarding to drive. I managed to bring it up to 90kmh on d flyover over B.Baru roundabout (u shd noe hows d joints on tat flyover) n back thru coastal in a test unit without much concern on stability. Nicely weighted steering n above avg body control for a car of tis category.
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QUOTE(dares @ May 15 2013, 12:40 PM)
The Hyundai website only states that the i10 has ABS+EBD, but doesn't state whether it is limited to the high spec only  hmm.gif Anyway the i10 was tested in Dec 2012, so it should be a 2012 car.
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nope. the car was tested on 2012..but look carefully, it was 2008 model.
current website is new website. i bet no more low spec.

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post May 15 2013, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ May 15 2013, 08:31 PM)
nope. the car was tested on 2012..but look carefully, it was 2008 model.
current website is new website. i bet no more low spec.
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I meant the car was manufactured in 2012 la, not the model sweat.gif

Anyway, the available models now is the 1.1 Colourz and 1.25 Colourz edition. lowest from RM52,888. If no ABS can kasi campak into sea dy unsure.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ May 15 2013, 08:49 PM)
I meant the car was manufactured in 2012 la, not the model  sweat.gif

Anyway, the available models now is the 1.1 Colourz and 1.25 Colourz edition. lowest from RM52,888. If no ABS can kasi campak into sea dy  unsure.gif
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ya2..in fact even saga blm send 2 entries for asean ncap. first model only 1 star. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ May 15 2013, 08:49 PM)
I meant the car was manufactured in 2012 la, not the model  sweat.gif

Anyway, the available models now is the 1.1 Colourz and 1.25 Colourz edition. lowest from RM52,888. If no ABS can kasi campak into sea dy  unsure.gif
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There are many offers down to 50k for the colors edition for the 1.25 cvvt variant. Yet its the 2013 car. Is this a good deal?

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post May 15 2013, 10:48 PM

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The crash test comparison between myvi and i10 doesn't make sense. I see less deformity on the i10 yet it only gets 2 stars compared to myvi.
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Yup. You are hawk eyes on the deformity between Myvi and i10.
Even i10 A-pillar not so deformed to compare with Myvi.
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QUOTE(JoLee @ May 15 2013, 10:48 PM)
The crash test comparison between myvi and i10 doesn't make sense. I see less deformity on the i10 yet it only gets 2 stars compared to myvi.
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besides crash result or deformity level, safety spec will contributes to certain amount of stars. for asean ncap, abs/ebd, 2 airbags (minimum) and seatbelt reminder. i bet the i10 use in this test is the old 1.1L year 2008..without abs and ebd (cheapest version). euro ncap used to have minimum 4 airbags to get at least 3 stars (which proton waja get..that's why uk spec waja got 4 airbags).
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ May 15 2013, 11:03 PM)
Yup. You are hawk eyes on the deformity between Myvi and i10.
Even i10  A-pillar not so deformed to compare with Myvi.
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euro ncap crash test result for i10 is 4 stars. (4 airbags).
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QUOTE(JoLee @ May 15 2013, 10:48 PM)
The crash test comparison between myvi and i10 doesn't make sense. I see less deformity on the i10 yet it only gets 2 stars compared to myvi.
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QUOTE(mujinkun @ May 15 2013, 11:03 PM)
Yup. You are hawk eyes on the deformity between Myvi and i10.
Even i10  A-pillar not so deformed to compare with Myvi.
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Exterior damage is only half the story.

Is the local i10 as tough as the European i10? I guess we wont know unless we send one there to be tested by EuroNCAP. At this point I dunno what to believe also, except probably the i10 is safer than the Myvi....if only marginally. There are still some unexplained inconsistencies in the ASEAN NCAP results for several cars.
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My brother has the i10 and I prefer the i10 over the new myvi as the myvi is just a plain boring car. The i10 feels more solid compared to myvi and nicer to drive in terms of handling. My only complain is the very noisy air cond blower of the i10. I think the current i10 has more features compared to the earlier batches which my brother has.
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QUOTE(dares @ May 15 2013, 11:21 PM)
Exterior damage is only half the story.

Is the local i10 as tough as the European i10? I guess we wont know unless we send one there to be tested by EuroNCAP. At this point I dunno what to believe also, except probably the i10 is safer than the Myvi....if only marginally. There are still some unexplained inconsistencies in the ASEAN NCAP results for several cars.
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Why choose the lower version of the i10 to compare?

Look at the myvi crash test. Not only is the pillar deformed but the lower front portion of the car has encroach into the driver cabin while i10 maintains its shape for the passenger cabin.
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QUOTE(JoLee @ May 15 2013, 11:30 PM)
Why choose the lower version of the i10 to compare?

Look at the myvi crash test. Not only is the pillar deformed but the lower front portion of the car has encroach into the driver cabin while i10 maintains its shape for the passenger cabin.
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Why so defensive? I wasn't picking the lowest spec to compare anymore, nor am I praising Myvi in anyway. Personally I will never buy a Myvi.

The same car made in different regions of the world may differ in safety and chassis toughness, refer to this thread

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2810401

Can you assure me with 100% confidence that the local sold i10 chassis is built exactly to the same specs as the European version?

I'm not bashing the i10 nor am I encouraging ppl to buy Myvi. I just want the everyone to keep an open mind.
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QUOTE(dares @ May 15 2013, 11:38 AM)
I was going to recommend the i10 over the Myvi due to my belief that the Hyundai should have better quality, and the same reason theanswer just posted.

But then I remembered this

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The big event, they could resort to using magic boxes and get re-calculation to have the results changed. For this crash test, they could do the same. Do you know that engineering except Civil is not recognised as professional jobs? Do you know that many engineers and technicians with 3-5 years of expensive engineering courses + on job training earn way less than office job with mere diploma? Do you think they really have professionals in evaluating the crash test result?

Since i10 is in the price range of Myvi, do you think they'll let you rate the i10 better than Myvi and affect its sales? You want to change the outcome of Euro crash test result, sure. Get the i10 to pulled at 120km/h while Myvi at 80km/h, then you get result other way round.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 16 2013, 10:35 PM)
The big event, they could resort to using magic boxes and get re-calculation to have the results changed. For this crash test, they could do the same. Do you know that engineering except Civil is not recognised as professional jobs? Do you know that many engineers and technicians with 3-5 years of expensive engineering courses + on job training earn way less than office job with mere diploma? Do you think they really have professionals in evaluating the crash test result?

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You cannot be serious. Defending your favorite brand is one thing, spitting out idiocy like this is a whole different level.

I've said it before and I am telling you again. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST KOREAN BRANDS, I am saying keep an open mind. Personally, I am just as likely as buying a KIA or Hyundai as I am likely to buy a(nother) Ford in my next car purchase.

Jeez.

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QUOTE(dares @ May 16 2013, 11:24 PM)
You cannot be serious. Defending your favorite brand is one thing, spitting out idiocy like this is a whole different level.

I've said it before and I am telling you again. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST KOREAN BRANDS, I am saying keep an open mind. Personally, I am just as likely as buying a KIA or Hyundai as I am likely to buy a(nother) Ford in my next car purchase.

Jeez.
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Fyi, I don't defend nor stick to any specific brand. I only stick to car that passed reliability/durability, practicality and overall score including safety, handling, build quality & design.

Are you working for local crash test? If no, why do you think I am talking about you? Check my comment earlier, the "YOU" refers to those unqualified NCAP group that came up with upside down results.

About our local jobs specialised in M&E engineering fields, that is to inform and share with everyone, not just you. The local policy does not encourage locals to venture deep into engineering. That explains our local engineering field is nothing more than 3rd nation level with the boss & management earns everything via slave labour.

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QUOTE(dares @ May 16 2013, 11:24 PM)
I am saying keep an open mind.

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The thing about forums is some of people get carried away by a one side logic and an obscene state of denial. Best to ignore those smile.gif

In any case.. back to the i10, I've a friend who's been driving this for five years and hardly has any problems with it even though he raked up quite a mileage...driving from Cheras to Port Klang on a daily basis.

Admit car loses out on looks but it's quite a hardy machine and enjoys a certain level of appeal among Malaysians.

This "certain level of appeal" may change for better once the new i10 arrives... source says it's a test mule that was spotted testing somewhere and judging by the looks of it, it looks bigger and may be a new design language. Apparently, Hyundai's benchmark for the i10 is the VW Groove-Up.


Bloody hell, if it looks anything like that VW - Perodua will be shitting bricks man! laugh.gif

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I heard the i10 suffers from EPS problem and it can shutdown car and lock the steering. Just go google up and u can see a few owners complaining bout it

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Kia Picanto 2012 model is still not release in Malaysia and no news regarding it. I really like the 3 doors version!

The new Elentra model's was released on 2010 so dont put high hope getting the new Hyundai i10 sooner. At least 2015 i would say.
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QUOTE(AdamSasake @ May 14 2013, 11:40 AM)
Just created an account so i can enquiry on this car.

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I am seeing many promotion such as huge cash rebate until 5k++ and many more gifts. I think this car is a better car compared to Myvi except the spaces and the Engine's cc, but somehow the difference number of drivers between these  cars are so huge. What is the factor that affecting this I10 Hyundai series? Is it the resale value, because korean cars have very bad resale value.

Anyway, i am interested in this car but i am worry there are other factors which affecting the sales/performance of the car. Any opinions and reviews will be thankful because i wish to hear more about this car from everyone since the i10 car club in this forum is really bad. Thanks in advance!

FYI, i also accept recommendation on cars that fell on similar specification and price.
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My nephew just bought one parked right in front of my house now and had take it for a few hours of ride yesterday.

If I were 18-23 I will have no doubts about this car. Lots of modern features, smooth ride, good handling, firm, lot's of freebies and promotional discounts, small and nice to cut in and cut out (like myvi) (remember - dont use signal lights to surprise maneuver), comfortable seats especially for the back passenger.

If I were at that age and had this car, forget about sofa or even bed, I would make out and make love with my lovers in this all the time...
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 17 2013, 11:22 PM)
Fyi, I don't defend nor stick to any specific brand. I only stick to car that passed reliability/durability, practicality and overall score including safety, handling, build quality & design.

Are you working for local crash test? If no, why do you think I am talking about you? Check my comment earlier, the "YOU" refers to those unqualified NCAP group that came up with upside down results.

About our local jobs specialised in M&E engineering fields, that is to inform and share with everyone, not just you. The local policy does not encourage locals to venture deep into engineering. That explains our local engineering field is nothing more than 3rd nation level with the boss & management earns everything via slave labour.
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Stop posting nonsensical comments which is totally irrelevant to the title, so r u on the crash test team yourself ? I doubts it.
Euro crash test base on Europe specs car, while our crash test base on local specs car, local inokom i10 does not equal to Europe Hyundai i10.

Who care if ur low quality engineer getting low pay, as far as I know those high qualified engineer in my company earn good, some of them even at top management post, if u talking about those half past six cap ayam cert sure worth nothing lah.

A lot of workshop rather get foreign mechanic & Foreman, mind u these r experienced worker who had well trained in their country (eg. Thailand) they r willing to worked for long hour & accepts low wages, so do u think those with a piece of so call automotive school diploma worth a lot ? job vacancy that need to compete with foreign worker usually get peanuts pay, do u want to work as waiter, maid, estate worker, construction worker, factory worker, janitor ?

Anyway please sticked to discussion on Inokom i10.
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QUOTE(jolokia @ May 28 2013, 11:26 AM)
Stop posting nonsensical comments which is totally irrelevant to the title, so r u on the crash test team yourself ? I doubts it.
Euro crash test base on Europe specs car, while our crash test base on local specs car, local inokom i10 does not equal to Europe Hyundai i10.

Who care if ur low quality engineer getting low pay, as far as I know those high qualified engineer in my company earn good, some of them even at top management post, if u talking about those half past six cap ayam cert sure worth nothing lah.

A lot of workshop rather get foreign mechanic & Foreman, mind u these r experienced worker who had well trained in their country (eg. Thailand) they r willing to worked for long hour & accepts low wages, so do u think those with a piece of so call automotive school diploma worth a lot ? job vacancy that need to compete with foreign worker usually get peanuts pay, do u want to work as waiter, maid, estate worker, construction worker, factory worker, janitor ?

Anyway please sticked to discussion on Inokom i10.
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Welcome to Low Yat Forum, you came finally. It shows you support Low Yat Forum too as opposed to Gunner's AW comment. Nothing nonsense, the chassis of i10 be it in EU, AU or here, they are all molded by the same machine and material. i10 Europe might gives side airbags and VSC but in frontal collision, they should be the same. Fyi, crash test if it is just frontal collision, the difference won't be that much after all.

How many qualified quantum physicists we have here? What do they do for living where there aren't many jobs and future for them without professional job recognition. What do they know about collision test? Nothing.

Yes, more outside workshop with trial and error starting employing uneducated foreigner to become mechanic. They could only fix very simple things like change tyre, change engine oil, etc. But not troubleshooting, fault finding and knowing how combustion engine works. More deeper into fuel injection, they all go blur like you bunch. Because of this, many technical issues in newer generation cars could not be solved. Local engineers and technicians are highly underpaid and most of them chose to abandoned engineering jobs and go elsewhere.

Tell all your technical department staff to leave office and we'll get to see wheter SD, NASA or Federal Auto will get hold of Nissan franchise. They just have to take over from you bunch and then they will surely do better than you bunch in terms of bringing in proper models. No more substandard Sylphy, Teana, X-Gear, Almera for 3rd nation. Instead, they'll bring in Sentra US, Altima US, Versa US, Note, etc.


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I saw a 2nd hand 2012 i10 1.25 full spec to sell, asking for 40k. Anyone know is it worth or where can i check the market price? Hope there is someone can reply to me...

 

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