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stix
post May 7 2013, 02:34 PM

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even if they do remove the tax, it is not compulsory for the dealers to lower down the prices since there so many people who are buying cars. what they would probably do is to throw in better specs, but maintain the selling price. this would prevent the depreciation of second hand value.

anyhow, if miracle happens and they sell beemers at 90k, i hope the government remove every single petrol subsidy. perhaps its time to pay for the amount you travel, not pay for the way you travel. bank loans should be capped at 5 years max, else mindless tards will all buy beemers with 9 year loans. heck these people would've applied 90 years if Banks allowed that.
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post May 7 2013, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ May 7 2013, 06:09 PM)
Reduced taxes = cheaper car prices?

Can some one explain why the Prius costs RM140k here?
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post May 7 2013, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ May 7 2013, 07:35 PM)
no.
car prices been reduced in 2006 or 2007.
but not significant enough.
this is a fact.

pakatan version of reducing car prices hinged on reducing the tax.well, we can understand that, but they havent explain how they would replace the lost revenue. mind u running a nation isnt like minding ur piggy bank. i need to know how they would replace that. but then since they lost i guess no one will know. BN version of reducing car prices based on the talk they will be having with dealers/ manufacturers, asking them to reduce the selling price.

BN version is pretty much not clear and in ideal world, not quite cut the mustard. because u cant interfere with business people and if u do so then business people will run away. of course every tom d*** and harry knows business people like big profit margin. since 2006 tax reduction, after momentary dip, the prices been going up.
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Remove all kinds of petrol subsidies. that should sum up to roughly RM2B if my memory is still right. reduce the amount of tax that's equivalent to that for cars. cap the bank loans at 5 years. well, easier said then done.
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post May 8 2013, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 8 2013, 02:39 PM)
Forgot to mention that the current RM pegged value now is the best. If too low, like after first economic crisis, normal people can't afford stuff. If too high people will not buy Malaysian stuff on the international market.

Also, this malay proverb is very true. "Bukan senang nak hidup senang".

I see this BBC documentary. Chinese citizens don't like taking loans to buy car/house. <5% of the population take loans. The BBC documentary followed this farmer, wanting to buy a car. Saved money for more than 10 years to buy a car. When the documentary followed this family, they were 3 months reaching their goal to buy car outright. If you buy a car/house with loan, the first few years of the ownership is used to pay loan. You take loan at RM90k for RM 75k car for 9 years. The first 5 years is used to payback the loan difference of RM15k. So you happily pay that RM700 not knowing that the car is not at all yours. Same with property. Let's say that within 9 years you get better salary, then want to pay off full amount hutang to bank. Bank will allow you to do so, but will have penalty. This penalty is because they no longer can get that RM700 from you monthly.

So if possible don't take loan, buy outright. You will be richer in the process.
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This mentality will never work here. People are too obsessed with owning what they cant afford.
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post May 8 2013, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ May 8 2013, 04:44 PM)
Wow. And I thought my postings were long.

As for traffic jams... As long as there are not more people there to drive the cars there won't be more traffic jams, only newer cars as old cars are finally scrapped (some really need to be removed from the roads...).

Taxes only need to go down for sensible cars. You want luxury, fun etc. please pay for it. No need to make a big BMW cheaper. Even powerful versions of a car (say B segment over 100 HP) should be taxed higher.

One problem right now in Malaysia is the crappy cars in awful condition on our roads.
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I really don't want to go in to the 'why the rich needs to pay more when they pay even more taxes' topic. It's like you're saying the poor should not pay the government tax when they are dining in a restaurant while the rich has too.

As for traffic jams, why is it so hard to comprehend by some people. Lower down the car prices and at the same time, cap the maximum amount of years that you can extend on your car loan. If you can afford to get a Myvi within 5 years, perhaps you'll be able to get a civic maybe(?) when taxes are removed. If one dreams of extending their loan to 9 years and finally being able to get their dream mercedes, i'd say rolleyes.gif . With this implemented, people can buy better cars at current current prices and not having the flexibility to splurge on 2 or 3 extra cars.
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post May 8 2013, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ May 8 2013, 05:08 PM)
I agree with this! Can lower the car prices a bit but make it more difficult to get huge loans for such very long periods! Make the laon periods much shorter (say max 5yrs) and the minimum initial cash payment higher (say 35-50%), not like 5-10% only like now.
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Do it Singapore style biggrin.gif but then again, the people will burn down houses if the government sets such policies as i can see most who wants taxes to be abolished are the ones who dream of buy beemers at 80k, rather than the ones who are really in need of a transport.
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post May 10 2013, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ May 9 2013, 09:41 PM)
Iskandar is a disaster for locals. Before Iskandar, Singaporeans already buying up houses at JB so price goes up. Locals cannot buy houses down south. Iskandar only accelerates the problem. Aside from houses, food also goes up in that area. Friends in JB say SG is taking over JB. Their money is big. So over here they can live like millionaires, drive on PLUS highway at 180km and get cheaper fuel as well.

That is why I do not agree with Najib and what he is doing. He is trying to Londonise KL with that Tun Razak commercial centre thing, also trying to Monaco Johor with Iskandar.

GST takes from everyone, but the poor will feel the most. Actually, the rich pay less than the poor for their food. People who are rich can afford bulk. If rich and in management sector, you will be invited to dinner, kenduri here there, rasmi this and that. Also get saguhati while doing it. If don't like that saguhati, wrap it up, give it as wedding gift to someone else.

I hate GST. Hated it when it was 17.5% and hate it even more when it is 20% (in UK). 2 years ago, just before the VAT goes from 17.5 to 20% beginning 2012, the Christmas sale was "Beat the VAT". So that time you see people make huge purchases to beat it like household items to get it cheaper. Used to it, yes-nothing you can do.
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OOT, but i wonder why governments rarely tackle the issue of poverty by solving the cause, instead of just assisting them. by all means, more handouts/help makes them lazy unless they are disabled or something. that's what this country has become. throwing money on the people.
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post May 10 2013, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(Nyiwon @ May 10 2013, 10:38 AM)
Haizz, went to Sydney for holiday and saw cars there really damn cheap

Toyota Camry cost AUD 30k

Honda Civic  AUD 21k

Come back see malaysia price really want to cry  cry.gif
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yes but do you know the tax structure there? you barely take back 50% of your income if you are earning high.
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post May 10 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Nyiwon @ May 10 2013, 12:13 PM)
Need to be high earner then only can buy a AUD 30k Camry?  blink.gif

Work as part time waiter there also earns AUD 15 per hour. 

Do you see any waiter in Malaysia driving a Camry?
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Clearly you don't know the living cost in Aussie. The after service? You think it will be the usual RM200 service that you have here?
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post May 10 2013, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ May 10 2013, 02:38 PM)
Not to be an ass but the lifestyle the author's living aint pretty. Back in my uni days, 1.5k aud were barely enough. Thats like what, 7 years ago. Then there's the rent, petrol, service and maintenance and bills etc.

Some may argue cars are cheaper and yes its true but if you think that you can live a lavish lifestyle and get a m3, then you're wrong. Unless you have a good position and earning big bucks. The grass is always greener at the other side.

This post has been edited by stix: May 10 2013, 03:26 PM

 

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