okay i get it (from the bold sentence i highlight) , so soundstage does not limit / affect any product hardware design.

just i wanna hear generic design the pro and con for designed soundstage thingy...

something like ,let say in camera term:



anyway thanks for the answer, so what i get is this:
Also, wide soundstage is not exclusive to a certain headphone type. IEM can have wide soundstage. A high end open back headphone can have wide soundstage. Closed headset can have wide soundstage . It depends on how much or a degree you want it to be.

by the way soundstage you mean are hardware tuned? i know software can do that but duno what you guys say it is fake/ artificial or not. (by random clicking realtek built-in software sound emulation profile there )
so any difference of...

a) narrow soundstage headphone/IME + software enabled wider soundstage
b) originally already wide soundstage...

EDITED: i will go visit E1's shop once i got my kaki go with me since i don't want go test alone

This post has been edited by Agito666: May 21 2014, 01:49 PM

okay i should know what is that already. it is not limited/affect to any characteristic. (end case )

yeah i will test myself in weekend.(with friend )
just asking that because i saw that "term" in sales thread

well i was stated rm300 is my budget, however if value is more worth if spend more, i actually can up to rm500... since ATH pro5v can last me like 6 years (or more i lost my count)

but my parents will kill me or not that is another story

update my requirement for protable headphone, actually i was thinking foldable option is not really a problem because i can just put on my neck, just the wire part need to be not too heavy like Pro5v haha...

Cup size wise i tested ES7, andfind it kind of small, not sure if use in KTM/LRT will hear outside noise or not... since i want to get better noise isolation portable headphone ... (also plan to use in home without air con for longer time, so confortable need to think carefully to choose)

currently using PRO5V in office, since i use in aircon condition so it is not a problem there.

This post has been edited by Agito666: May 21 2014, 02:43 PM

i got very old IEM that is sony MDR EX52, however i only can use smallest size of the bud to penetrate my ear
however for longer time i use, sometimes it is really pain and somehow my ear wet wax (even i cleaned sometimes, but after 1-2 days it is got back again) also pushing the thing go off. so i need to push in the thing for every few minutes...
Also it is very dirty... need to clean sometimes ... so i rather get headphone for that case....

just now look at M40x and M50x... M50x damn sexy yohhh

i dont mind that big headphone carry on street, just worry the cable they offer, the shortest one is very long....

This post has been edited by Agito666: May 21 2014, 11:37 PM

i just come back from E1's shop, tried the ONE CUSTOM's can...fuuyoh poison.

can't listen well... compare with err M50x ...

m50x is more like all rounder with slight boost bass & treble? while custom one can having more bass once max it...but voice also slightly covered from bass...hmmm

then got test a while DAC +sound car... Fio something... just feel soundstage wider a little and sound sharper/ more define...

Beyerdynamic COP? since price is cheaper now because the limited time offer

also need to buy and carry with your own bag to get the discounted price

go to jaben or E1's shop test one by one is the best. i using M50x but i m not audiophile XD

i was using ATH PRO5V (rm 275 that time) and it is very tight and hurt my ear a lot, after change tm M50x.... confortable a lot...

i using m50x...not sure suit you or not
or just go jaben or E1's shop test in one by one

what is darker sound? i don't know sound got colour

+1, thought i own M50x like 2-3 months i think. XD

but i owned PRO5v for 6-8 years, beside changed the pad everything works well (just design sucks because it is too tight)

Pro5v is bad because it is too tight for me, i think i using V1...using that like 6 years before i get my M50x

add on NU sentral also got Jaben can play with

add-on:
or try at other's environment see the noise isolation is good or not haha

since the he mentioned use for jogging/ walking at outside XD

xiao mi ear-bud? since previous post got mentioned and quite worth i hear

not sure, but what i hear from my friend he said gaming headset sounds more FLAT than normal headphone due to gaming headset designed more on "distace" "direction" sounds for game.... so yea... i m not sure.

i use normal speaker only for game haha, even for dota2 there is no need direction for that.

maybe this is wrong info because i never own that and test that for compare music and game experience.

This post has been edited by Agito666: Aug 25 2014, 11:22 AM

or put your office address for delivery , that is what i do normally

no one knows $ is what currency is that. is that Argentina Peso?
http://www.xe.com/symbols.php

so many possibility there

This post has been edited by Agito666: Sep 9 2014, 03:12 PM