Yeah, "where to buy", "do you have the gap problem", "OMG you got the HT/SH/FA version"

Not forgetting : "To case or not to case, since it will spoil the premium look"

This post has been edited by joytest: May 28 2013, 10:25 PM

It's probably plateau point for Android as well as ios. I mean look at what M$ did with Window$ 8....change purely for the sake of change. There's absolutely nothing wrong with the WIMP interface from the last 30 years and drop down menus. Then they brought on the Ribbon from 40,000 data points....um, if some users are the frantic clicker types, I'm sure they'll give you 40k clicks in 1 day.

You could all see this

http://www.androidcentral.com/best-android...n-buy-june-2013

We really have reached the point where the top of the Android smartphone market is blanketed by some highly impressive devices. It's tough to go wrong. There's something for everyone, be it form factor or features or gimmicks and gizmos. But for our money, there's currently no better phone available than the HTC One.

There's a lot to like here. The (mostly) all-aluminum body looks and feels more sophisticated than a plastic phone, and the gentle curve fits the hand nicely. While we've still got our quibbles with the Sense user interface, Sense 5 is the most stylish version yet, and most important is that it doesn't exhibit the lag that we've seen in the Samsung Galaxy S4.

The front-facing stereo speakers change the way you experience music and videos on a smartphone. Games and movies are much more immersive and are a downright pleasure to play and listen to. There are a few times when the speakers may be too loud, but there are many more times when you're amazed you're getting that sort of sound from a smartphone.

HTC's camera also brought forth a bit of a paradigm shift. It's not the best all-around camera -- it suffers from contrast issues, and if you need something with a higher total resolution for enlarging pictures, you'll need to look elsewhere. But the introduction of Zoes -- the 3-second video clips -- and the introduction of automatically composed Video Highlights are something that nobody else is doing, and they make up for a lackluster camera application.

The HTC One also has been released on three of the four major U.S. carriers, as well as seeing wide availability worldwide -- and we're expecting Verizon to get its own variant this year as well.

In the months we've been using the HTC One, it's continuously caught the eyes of those around us and continued to impress us with its performance -- and for that it ranks as our best smartphone for first part of 2013.

S4
If ever there was a phone to beat, it was this one. Samsung took everything that was good in the Galaxy S3 and made it better in its successor, the Galaxy S4.

Well, maybe not quite everything. The plastic body remains a turn-off for many, and it's certainly not as chic as the aluminum HTC One. It's also lost a bit of the curve of the Galaxy S3. And while Samsung has managed to squeeze a 5-inch display into the same size as the slightly smaller Galaxy S3, the IPS or Super LCD displays on other phones perform better in sunlight and seems to better handle shifts in brightness. The TouchWiz user interface has been refined a bit, but it's still flat in places and doesn't match the sophistication of other UIs.

Samsung's camera, however, remains the best in the business, as far as everyday use is concerned. It's filled with features, and the camera app itself is a joy to use, having been adapted from the high-end Samsung Galaxy Camera. You might not use features like the animated gif creator every day, but they're fun to have, even if they're not all that innovative.

But what landed the Galaxy S4 as our No. 2 is the laggy user interface -- we've experienced delays and stutters on a number of versions of the phone -- as well as the anemic storage situation. Samsung's 16-gigabyte version of the GS4 only has about 9 gigabytes of storage available to the end user. And while Samsung likes to say you can add another 64 gigabytes with a microSD card, that's a different kind of storage. Good luck keeping your larger games and apps on there. The sin isn't so much that Samsung's using all that space for the hundreds of features on the phone -- and it's got some really good preloaded apps and settings. The sin is that in 2013, that sort of deceptive marking and, for many, a lack of larger storage options, is unacceptable.

Good article on how insurance companies test phones (there is device insurance in the UK)

Oi, butterfingers! Drop your mobe in a pint? Hope it's not an iPhone
Samsung's pocketstroker gives you extra 0.5s to fish it out
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/28/dunk_and_drop/

Some phones already have an option for default install location. Wonder why Samsung doesn't implement the same feature.

And so crapple does what crapple does best: Innovative Lawsuits

So now HTC One with 32Gb+ is also in need of this (from HTC One thread):



This post has been edited by joytest: May 29 2013, 11:50 AM

But you don't have the premiumsexyfeeling of brushed aluminium !!!! You're such a loser with that cheap plastic !!!!

/sarcasm.

All started with some fruit-logo'd company.

Nice eagle, aquila.

This is rather bad showing for this flagship. Don't know if a similar situation occurred for the s3? But this flagship is getting a lot of heavy competition from sony n htc.

They'll tell you "it's not about the specs"

yet ?

The color scheme ...........

What was the solution? Go SMS?

So Go SMS could allow you smooth scrolling and view of 12k messages?

Anyway, just thinking rationally, if you didn't get any of the "free beyond nnn messages" SMS, that 12k messages would have cost you at least RM500.

Note 2, because of the active digitizer and S-Pen. People don't get it. Without this there is absolutely no comparison. Without the active digitizer, it's just another me-too phablet.

The typical screen is tough glass + screen (of whatever technology).

Note screen is tough glass + screen + digitizer and yet the price is still competitive.

Take for example HTC One. You pay for the shell. No SDcard, no removable battery and lockdown.
XZ is paying for the durability (???) but no removable battery and lockdown.

Sony may be trying with the Togari 6.44" with a stylus, but unknown if it will be active or not.

And anyway, Note 2 smoothness is well attested by many, even those with other devices.

This post has been edited by joytest: May 30 2013, 11:02 PM

Yes, the shell.

I thought you had decided on HTC One?

See, that is the opinion of those who have chosen Samsung.

Perhaps I don't speak for all of the Samsung choosers, but we do see that the HTC is a nice looking device. Nobody denies that. Even the review sites are full of praise for the nice EXTERIOR, and maybe the nice loudspeakers.

But you see, the nice sexy metal body IS PRONE to scuffs and chips and dents when dropped, so, people cover it up.

That already defeats the purpose of getting that nice sexy body in the first place. You can read that the HTC One guys are all debating to get a casing or not, naked or risk a drop. And then the gap issues.

And I don't know how many people groove to phone loudspeakers. I've seen everyone with headphones. Even the ipong ad shows the guy using headphones.

Here for the S4 it is limited to only the camera causing a phone reboot. No other problems. Even Andrewtst, who seems pretty picky in phone testing, has admitted that the S4 2nd batch performs smoothly.

Lastly, no SDcard, no removable battery.

It's your money.

You can read thru both forums. HTC is all concerned about whether the phone has the gap and how long it takes to claim. And the naked/casing debate.

Here is about "when is LTE/32Gb coming" and "why does the camera reboot the phone". The "hot" issues are a non issue because after they measured the temperature it's normal for smartphones.

Again, as I said, it's your money.