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thloh85
post Jun 8 2013, 01:26 PM

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I too have the "shock" feeling when touching the Mg part of the Pro. I guess this is defect by design. I heard a Sony fella told me one of Sony's lappie that uses metal back also has this "issue". I guess this is normal then sad.gif

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post Jun 8 2013, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(derravile @ Jun 8 2013, 04:21 PM)
Thundermatch got stock huh?
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Thurdermatch Sunway Carnival in Perai/Penang got stock, still a lot I think... They had like 10, and I was the 2nd one to buy yesterday evening.
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post Jun 8 2013, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jun 8 2013, 04:18 PM)
I only experience "vibration" with mine. They say its normal for designs with metal bodies to be so.
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Yeah.. Touch the back of it with fingers it "vibrates". Try touching the corner of the metal part with your wrist and shocking.gif SHOCK!!!

BTW. Selling my 3 weeks old Samsung ATiv Smart PC Pro since now I've got the Surface Pro. If you know of anyone who wants it, please let them know: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2837513&hl= (RM2750 ONLY SME not AP, I lose RM600+ using it for 3 weeks)

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post Jun 8 2013, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jun 8 2013, 05:15 PM)
Just tested, I don't experience any shock in the corners or back, just vibrations.
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With your wrist? I didn't feel a thing with my finger, but wrist will cause a shock (not a major shock, a minor static like shock) on my machine. (Thundermatch actually tried another device since I went back and ask for a 1-1, and the results are the same @_@)
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post Jun 8 2013, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 8 2013, 05:28 PM)
same case with my Mac Mini and RMBP, try add a extension cable. Probably grounding problem.
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Hmm... Will try. Currently don't have extra extension cables lying around...
It's not too big of a deal, it's not like the SP can be used plugged in, just minor annoyance.
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post Jun 8 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 8 2013, 05:29 PM)
niceee, I love that magnesium feel  thumbup.gif
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Yup. Just love it smile.gif
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post Jun 8 2013, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 8 2013, 05:44 PM)
can you play Diablo 3 or GW2 on it smoothly? I think HD4000 can handle it pretty well, since low end Macs are using it  hmm.gif
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Don't have D3, but Civ5 plays okay. This isn't really my gaming machine. For gaming, still I would go for my desktop smile.gif
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post Jun 8 2013, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 8 2013, 05:35 PM)
I would love to know some battery life test by our forummer  biggrin.gif
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Haven't really used it as tablet yet. Still installing sh*ts to it... tongue.gif
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post Jun 8 2013, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 8 2013, 05:48 PM)
yeah of course, but it's cool to game on it while other playing Angry Birds/Candy Crush on their iPad  whistling.gif
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U wanna play hardcore mode on the lappie with a mobile internet? Don't think I wanna even try that LOL, lag 1 second then your lv60 character died LOL...
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post Jun 8 2013, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Jun 8 2013, 05:49 PM)
I could try CS:GO on it and Torchlight 2 too biggrin.gif
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CS:GO should be playable, I think even L4D2 plays nicely @ 720p...
IIRC I saw somewhere saying that the GC is about 4-5 times stronger than latest iPad's GC .
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post Jun 8 2013, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 8 2013, 05:52 PM)
campus got 100MBPS++ WiFi bah  brows.gif
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Student has great life... Enjoy it smile.gif
Couldn't even think about gaming @ work o.0
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post Jun 9 2013, 02:27 PM

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Anyone has tried wiping the recovery partition and restore the partition using USB drive? I don't know if I'm able to "recover" the recovery partition by just using the USB drive. There is a "repartition" option in the recovery menu, but I sincerely doesn't know if that actually reverts the recovery partition or just the C:

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post Jun 9 2013, 05:19 PM

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Duno... There's an option in the selection when u use the recovery USB created by Win8...
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post Jun 9 2013, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 9 2013, 05:37 PM)
Is this what you mean ?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-my/windows...-recovery-drive

Use a USB drive to format your PC instead of using disc.
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Yes that... I knows it reinstalls Win8, but dunno if it actually reallocates the 8GB recovery partition or not. Struggling whether to remove the recovery partition or not...
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post Jun 9 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 9 2013, 05:45 PM)
which storage size you get?
wait for next batch pal. btw, which storage they in stock? which you planning to get?
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128GB, currently don't really need the additional 8GB, but still itchy tongue.gif
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post Jun 9 2013, 07:09 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 9 2013, 06:19 PM)
I know ur feeling bro. for me its more than enough  biggrin.gif

If i need additional, just buy another 64GB MicroSD  rclxms.gif
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I'm broke enough to buy anything else. Am stuck with Samsung ATiv Pro which costed additional RM3.3k. Waiting for it to get sold off @ lowyat.
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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 9 2013, 07:12 PM)
I play with it in Samsung store, it's too flimsy for me. Nothing compare to Surface's magnesium build  brows.gif
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I wouldn't say its flimsy. It's not "the ultraportable" that I expected, keyboard is too heavy for my taste. But if treating it as an ultrabook that can be converted to tablet I think it is a good device.

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post Jun 11 2013, 01:48 PM

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A short review on my SP.

Outlook/Build: 9/10
The Surface Pro looks amazing, and feels really solid with the VaporMG shell. The bad thing about using metal as the body is electric shock when charging. (Should be defect by design, tried 3 different brand new units having the same issue)

Tablet mode: 6/10
Too heavy to be held with one hand, made worse with Type Cover, which I consistently pressing the keyboard buttons with the cover folded back. It ignores any key pressed when folded back, but made me feels like I'm going to damage the keyboard (Touch Cover should fare a lot better since they don't have actual button).

Ultrabook mode: 9/10
Very portable, 1kg in total with Type cover is really impressive. Type Cover's build quality is very good. Didn't reduce my wpm compared to my mechanical keyboard. Kick stand is sturdy and stable, but angle is a little awkward, nothing too bad here.

Pen/Touch: 7/10
Touch is very good, near no lag, and adequately accurate. Pen is a little less accurate than Samsung Ativ Pro (I'm using this to do some art work in GIMP). After calibration it is much better, but still slightly off. Will get a new Wacom Pen to try out if it is caused by the Surface pen or the digitizer.
Needs Wacom's new driver however.

Battery: 6/10
4 hours run down on very light use, turning off Turbo (reduce the maximum processor state to 98%). I do only charge to 80% maximum to preserve battery lifespan. So the run down for 4 hours is 80% to 25%, which is not too bad. If you fully charge and run to 10%, it should hit 6 hours without a problem on light usage.

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post Jun 11 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 11 2013, 02:47 PM)
Very nice review, mind I put your review in first page? At first I wanted to buy Macbook Air to bring out as my RMBP 15 is too heavy, seems like Surface Pro can replace Macbook Air and iPad.

Do they have Youtube apps in Windows Store? Thats what I do mostly with my iPadĀ  laugh.gif I hate the browser youtube though
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Thanks smile.gif Go ahead and put it up.

Yup, I was eyeing on MBA 11" last year, but decided to wait. SP is really nice. (but my Mac friends couldn't switch over to Win, just fyi since you're using MBP)

Lastly, no, there's no official youtube app in Windows Store. There is however 3rd party ones, but I don't trust my account information with tiny firms.

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post Jun 11 2013, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Xirality @ Jun 11 2013, 04:07 PM)
done smile.gif

yes! I love OSX very much but too bad Apple doesn't make a OSX based tablet, I can live with Windows 8 since it's now optimize for touch much better than Windows 7
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"Optimized for touch" only applicable for Metro. There're still some hiccups in desktop mode, although much less than Win7 imho.

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