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Chigme
post Jul 22 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Jul 22 2013, 01:18 PM)
You are right and wrong. Generally there are two media for the filtering system, mechanical and biological.
For mechanical, those brush will last a very long time so one off purchase, if I remember correctly I bought mine at Rm12 per pcs and approx 40 of it in my brush chamber.

For biological media, I use aquaclay if i spelled it correctly but you can opt for cheaper option eg crystal bio, siporax, ceramic ring and the like. All works the same. Biological media will last for a very long time as well with periodic cleaning. (back breaking works)

Pump nowadays consume much less juice le ... this world where got free lunch la ...
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If only i have your skill and DIY, can save money as hiring the company to build pond and supply filter cost a bomb.
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post Jul 22 2013, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Chigme @ Jul 22 2013, 01:53 PM)
If only i have your skill and DIY, can save money as hiring the company to build pond and supply filter cost a bomb.
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I understand how you feel, been there done that. Be very careful when selecting a contractor for Koi pond as many will say all sort of things to convince you and some will even bring you to visit some of their works but still know nuts bout Koi pond.
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post Jul 22 2013, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Jul 22 2013, 01:18 PM)
You are right and wrong. Generally there are two media for the filtering system, mechanical and biological.
For mechanical, those brush will last a very long time so one off purchase, if I remember correctly I bought mine at Rm12 per pcs and approx 40 of it in my brush chamber.

For biological media, I use aquaclay if i spelled it correctly but you can opt for cheaper option eg crystal bio, siporax, ceramic ring and the like. All works the same. Biological media will last for a very long time as well with periodic cleaning. (back breaking works)

Pump nowadays consume much less juice le ... this world where got free lunch la ...
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which pump would you recommend?
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post Jul 22 2013, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(genielee_83 @ Jul 22 2013, 04:37 PM)
which pump would you recommend?
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It depends on what is your application is for.

- water featurel, what is the size of the feature wall and the size of the water retention area.
- koi pond, what is the size of the pond or the tonnage.

The main difference of the two is that for water feature, you dont really need a powerful pump unless its a huge water feature facade.
As for koi pond, you have to consider the turn over of the pond water, minimum for koi pond is one cycle per hour and the more cycle turn over the better. You have to look at the design of your koi pond as to where to locate you return pipe so that the flow is evenly distributed.
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QUOTE(ShadowR1 @ Jul 22 2013, 06:14 PM)
It depends on what is your application is for.

- water featurel, what is the size of the feature wall and the size of the water retention area.
- koi pond, what is the size of the pond or the tonnage.

The main difference of the two is that for water feature, you dont really need a powerful pump unless its a huge water feature facade.
As for koi pond, you have to consider the turn over of the pond water, minimum for koi pond is one cycle per hour and the more cycle turn over the better. You have to look at the design of your koi pond as to where to locate you return pipe so that the flow is evenly distributed.
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I am in the midst of renovating my house and wanting to build a fish pond out in my garden area. Want to have water feature to flow down from the wall into the pond. Not sure what is consider a good design and what media / material / equipment needed for all of this
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post Dec 25 2015, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 24 2015, 09:30 PM)
I am in the midst of renovating my house and wanting to build a fish pond out in my garden area. Want to have water feature to flow down from the wall into the pond. Not sure what is consider a good design and what media / material / equipment needed for all of this
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post Dec 25 2015, 07:11 AM

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Well I don't know anything about pond and water feature. Doesn't even know how the filter or pump works. I will like a pond about 3 feet wide 1.5 feet deep and 5feet long. A feature wall about 6 feet height. Want to have water following down from the wall into the pond.
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post Dec 25 2015, 07:25 AM

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1.5 feet deep is not very deep at all.
Cats may get to your fish and it can be a bit warm for the fish in the afternoon sun.
Mine is 3 feet.
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post Dec 25 2015, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Noregrets @ Dec 25 2015, 07:25 AM)
1.5 feet deep is not very deep at all.
Cats may get to your fish and it can be a bit warm for the fish in the afternoon sun.
Mine is 3 feet.
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I am just planning to keep some small fish. I have lots of guppies at home. Over 100. Good thing is the pond is shaded so not direct sun light

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post Dec 25 2015, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 25 2015, 08:08 AM)
I am just planning to keep some small fish. I have lots of guppies at home. Over 100. Good thing is the pond is shaded so not direct sun light
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Are you keeping single strain/albino/single color guppies?
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QUOTE(weikee @ Dec 25 2015, 11:37 AM)
Are you keeping single strain/albino/single color guppies?
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Not sure. My friend gave me a few and now got hundreds
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Dec 25 2015, 07:11 AM)
Well I don't know anything about pond and water feature. Doesn't even know how the filter or pump works. I will like a pond about 3 feet wide 1.5 feet deep and 5feet long. A feature wall about 6 feet height. Want to have water following down from the wall into the pond.
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Sorry for the late reply, was away for awhile.

1.5 feet deep is too shallow, make it 2' or better still 2.5', when the pump for the water feature kick in, your pond water will be reduce by quite a lot.

How about filtration ? you will be using external canister filter or you will have the filter chamber incorporated to the pond ?


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Is your pond indoor ? having an indoor pond with a water feature wall is quite noisy if its indoor (I learn it the hard way)

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post Jan 2 2016, 08:07 PM

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Thanks for the reply, I had skip this for now. Is a bit too costly. Most likely will just buy those ready made pond. Is only going to keep very small fish like guppies or neon tetra
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I am thinking of building a koi pond inside my house. I heard from MBPJ that there is a rule that the pond should be at least two feet away from the house boundary but I cannot find this rule anywhere. Does anybody know anything about this? Appreciate your help.
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QUOTE(Cheeky @ Dec 22 2020, 11:38 PM)
I am thinking of building a koi pond inside my house. I heard from MBPJ that there is a rule that the pond should be at least two feet away from the house boundary but I cannot find this rule anywhere. Does anybody know anything about this? Appreciate your help.
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