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 STOCK MARKET DISCUSSION V130, Bull rally after GE

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gark
post Apr 24 2013, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Apr 24 2013, 12:37 PM)
As mentioned by Guru Gark, it is  better to put attention to the fundamentals of the co than the volume things, esp for new babies.

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Apa ini.....I am not guru lar... laugh.gif

Looking at 3816.. look look see see... wink.gif

Japan surging today again... sweat.gif

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post Apr 24 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 24 2013, 01:35 PM)
So pitiful that your name is used daily like Dai Foo. Haha!

But then this is biasa when words are filled with bones.  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

Too bad, you're now simply collateral damage now. tongue.gif

Aiyo!
Say MISC mah.
I thought what FOUR tails you just mentioned.

Why you look see? tongue.gif
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Dai foo... doh.gif

Dont want lar...


Look see look see only mah.. i like to look see things which is crashing/burning/52 wk low... see if got opportunity mah laugh.gif

I also look see AAPL... rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 24 2013, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Apr 24 2013, 02:34 PM)
oldtown! sold too early! i've self confidence issue! doh.gif
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Ah huat taste nicer than oldtown... icon_idea.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 24 2013, 02:29 PM)
Haha!

There might be some interest on AAPL with Cook giving some cookies (pun intended tongue.gif ) to its minority shareholders by talking about share buybacks and 'future' dividends. (how much?  rolleyes.gif  when they plan to pay ah?  rolleyes.gif )

The fruit is LOSING its seductiveness IMO.
The Androids are simply attracting all the buyers.
Even dinasours like Sony and Blackberry taking bold steps with new products and even winning new fans.

What has Apple done?
rolleyes.gif

However, I don't think the product will just mati. tongue.gif
It has managed to build up a nice brand and such global brand won't die overnight.
What I see is lebih kurang the same for AAPL in the next few years unless they make some drastic changes with their phones.

From once an extremely strong growing company with tons of cash, AAPL could turn into a company with lackluster/declining sales with tons of cash.
MISC still has its LNG business.
Market previously discounted it until MISC crash below 4. tongue.gif  whistling.gif
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Gotta remember apple is not only phones/pads... although that is it's biggest success. It's best products are ability to sell you ordinary ideas... at a premium price. laugh.gif

Not to mention the tons of money in it's account...

But I have not buy yet.. not yet...
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post Apr 24 2013, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 24 2013, 02:42 PM)
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Watch enough for the day already la.

This type of stocks, you must diam-diam buy when nobody wants to talk about it already.
After buying, to reap the most tasty fruit, you must wait one.

You can ah?

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I tiam tiam watching for 3 days already.. not the right time to pluck yet. Wait until no more volume... slowly spiral down to death, people don't want, no one mention then only pick up. laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 24 2013, 02:52 PM)
Fiyo!

You sure boleh la.
Sure you not UBAH to trader already ah?  thumbup.gif

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I thought trader like big big volume?... For me no volume also never mind as long i get a good deal..

Sounds like trader to you meh? tongue.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(ngaisteve1 @ Apr 24 2013, 02:56 PM)
so these few days need to start to prepare bullets (switch all fd, bond) to stock account first  biggrin.gif
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No need switch so fast lar.. got T+3 mah... confirm buy only switch not too late. laugh.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 24 2013, 02:57 PM)
I like when no volume wo.

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You think I what ah?

( Traders or investors where got much difference. Both also judi. tongue.gif )
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You ah.. I also don't know... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

More like opportunistic trader lah.. i think.. wink.gif

Everyone gambles... but investor gamble with odds stacked on their side. tongue.gif

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post Apr 24 2013, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 24 2013, 03:02 PM)
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You think traders no scared die and simply trade with odds stacked against them one meh?

They also want to trade when the odds favour them mah. tongue.gif
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You rambo mah! No scared die one! flex.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 24 2013, 04:58 PM)
Ah Huat not human drink wan...my kopi shop kopi taste nicer tongue.gif
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Ok wat ah huat.. taste not bad, for me lah. blush.gif

Cheaper per cup than your kopi shop tongue.gif
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post Apr 25 2013, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 25 2013, 12:18 PM)
Looks like you have got your mind set solid on the stock because you see the stock trading at a huge discount over the stock's highest price.
Buy low sell high is what you have been taught.

Like I say if you like, go buy.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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CSL, always makes me think of Chuah CD....don't want such stocks... whistling.gif
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post Apr 25 2013, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 25 2013, 12:16 PM)
In China, the tax system is quite complicated

Beside income tax, there are tax paid to local government as well, so it is possible they lump it all together

Just my two sen icon_rolleyes.gif
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In china all accounts can be fabricated, even they don't pay tax, who knows? rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 25 2013, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Apr 25 2013, 12:29 PM)
The last time i visit China, i got a shock that my client pay off its supplier by cash of few hundred thousand sweat.gif

I asked them why didn't use Cheque, he said to evade Government Service Tax/Value Added Tax laugh.gif
Even money remitted to China also kena tax sweat.gif
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The only legal 'tax' they pay is with 'Fa piao'. A lot of transactions is done without 'Fa piao' hence escaping tax. Even dining in resto, we have to request 'Fa piao' when we pay otherwise the bill not claimable... sweat.gif . Interestingly the 'Fa piao' is like lottery.. can scratch to reveal prizes one. Maybe that is how the govt encourage people to demand 'Fa piao'.... I once kena 100 RMB. biggrin.gif

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I have seen supplier pay with whole gunny sack of reminbi... laugh.gif I once have to carry 6 figure USD to pay off supplier as they only wants cash... shakehead.gif

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post May 13 2013, 03:19 PM

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Dumped 1368.. after 30+% gain.. picked up laggard...7207... laugh.gif

ex-div soon 3 sen... pe below 5... PBV below 1... biggrin.gif

For info only, dun follow me to holland ah... tongue.gif

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post May 13 2013, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(iAlien @ May 13 2013, 03:23 PM)
too bad it was ur ex wub.gif  wub.gif

Its now a Strong bull leading all of my portfolio
others...raise bit, drop bit, isshhhhh!
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I am busy selling... others busy buying.... sweat.gif

Too much, too fast, too euphoric... doh.gif
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post May 13 2013, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ May 13 2013, 04:28 PM)
Wah Gark Sifu... SUCCESS hit 1.3rm ...
Thanks you smile.gif
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Heh.. i bought this morning.. now +4% already... laugh.gif

Tomorrow hope momentum up...

Now trend is smaller cap, cash rich, low PE stocks.. my kind of stocks. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 13 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 13 2013, 03:37 PM)
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Busy selling?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif 

Me still riding... something wrong with me?
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I don't know about you, but when prices of stock rise up like crazy with no catalyst, it scares me .. so sell sell sell.

But sell slowly, not all 1 shot. Go up sell some, go up again sell some..until finish sweat.gif

If it goes down like a rock then only i will buy. laugh.gif

Another one approaching my sell list after divvy is 2054... go up like rocket... since CIMB gave a glowing review doh.gif

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post May 13 2013, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 13 2013, 05:37 PM)
I think slightly different.   laugh.gif

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I listened and this is what's the market telling me.... ( you can actually see this being reflected in this forum too... sure kena flying daggers one.  sweat.gif  )

A lot.. a lot of money... funds.... stayed out of the market because the GE factor.
Some sold all... some reduced holdings....

Now that GE is over (could there be another twist.. tongue.gif ), those UT money... cannot continue to sit on the sidelines anymore.
Sit on the sidelines... eat what?

Overall, my listening tells me... it's a well rounded rally...and you need big money play for this to happen and my guess we are seeing the UT money getting into action.

This is why... I feel sitting still is the best action (oh - unless you think you have discover a new stock with much potential)

Sitting still is one big skill. tongue.gif
We wait to buy.
We wait to sell.
Be patient.
There's much gains to be made .....  sweat.gif
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Yes there is much money to be made now, i sat still for 1 week, and the 1 week gains is almost equal my total last year's gain... LOL. laugh.gif Lucky me, I was collecting when we are approaching GE...

There is a lot of hot money out there..ie money with no place to go. Hence the total rally of the stock market. But however hot the money, they will eventually run out of places to put it. One day someone will scratch their head, and say wait a minute, what the heck i am buying with such high valuations and low dividend yield? Won't it be better if I put it in FD instead...

First it is the Index stocks, next the GLC and crony stocks, when those went up too high they are switching to mid PE middle cap stocks. Middle cap stocks rally is not over but it is slowing down.

Now the trend has shifted to low PE high Divvy stocks.. mostly in small caps. Wonder how long it will last.

Next they will have no more places to go... sweat.gif

Then..... whatever goes up must ....rolleyes.gif

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post May 13 2013, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ May 13 2013, 05:54 PM)
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You sounding like an AhPek Trader jor (phrase thanks to Chef kueyteowlou ) LOL!
Sure not a trader also? Hehe.

Yes the gains is incredible.
My saliva flooding out everytime I look into my..... tongue.gif

All the best in gaining more.
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Wah so hard to hear one.. ah pek trader wor...

I no ah pek... still 'relatively' young. tongue.gif I am not trader also.. my brokerage fees is very low, remisier also cry... laugh.gif

So ... since u gain so much,, when want to belanja yum cha... wink.gif

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post May 13 2013, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ May 13 2013, 07:30 PM)
Yr MIA made me  worry, I thought u kena kidnapped or hijacked by the Indo  maid.

Glad to see  u are back into the forum icon_rolleyes.gif
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Was very busy the last couple of weeks, no time to access internet... haha.

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