Suarez wanting to leave has nothing to do with BR's ability to handle him. He's made it clear why he's unhappy. Pepe has been unhappy for awhile, right about the time Rafa and his Spanish mates left. Plus Barca is his first club and I reckon that at this stage of his career, it will be an offer that's too good to pass up. Skrtel leaving I personally have no issue with. Was never a big fan of the lad and if he is out of form, then his departure will be no big loss.

Bale is Welsh not English. He is however British.

The FA's bias towards English players is well documented. We've already discussed this to death and I think it's fair to say that most if us can sympathise with Suarez. He however does himself no favours. I think we can all agree that he deserved to be punished but English lads get off easy.

Geeze it seems that "The Liverpool Way" is an alien term to many.

In regards to b****ing about Brits, how many foreign players performed last seasoned as opposed to Brit? Lambast BR for Allen. Who else? Did he not get Henderson, Downing and Enrique to perform better than they did the season before? Did he not buy Coutinho and Sturridge? Did he not give our young uns a go? Has BR bought more duds than his predecessors?

Selling our best players? Hmm did we want to get rid of them or did they want to leave? What can the club do to keep Suarez given the reasons he's cited?

Spoke before about constructive criticism. Let the detractors offer suggestions. If BR is shite, who can the club realistically go for? If our transfer targets are crap, who should we go and get? Empty vessels?

Or when dealing with constant moaners who ignore facts not suited to their argument, and offer little constructive input.

Moan about Kenny, moan about BR and all in their first season. It seems Rome was built in a day in some alternate reality.

Do you see me getting into it with anyone else? No kiddo, you're special.

While we're on the topic of moaners, here is a bunch of imbeciles.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/31/liverpool-fa...ansfer-3823949/?

So you disagree that fans who burnt Suarez's kit are imbeciles?

As for why I only get into it with you, it's because of snide remarks like this.



You take every opportunity to ridicule anyone who is supportive of BR but you do so indirectly. Well I'd rather opt for the straight up, in-your-face approach.

As for your analogy, which architects, sculptors or painters are we sending away? If they have bigger, better jobs coming their way, or if they're unhappy, how exactly are we sending them away? How is this the fault of Brendan Rodgers?

What kind of morning you wake up to in this forum depends solely on you. Mentioned an ignore button earlier if I recall.

In regards to flops, BR has done no worse than any of his predecessors. Allen hasn't replicated the impact he made with Swansea, Assaidi is apparently the next Jean Michel Ferri and Sahin was this seasons Henderson, being played out of position. Yesil is one for the future and wasn't expected to make an impact. Borini was injured for much of the season. Sturridge and Coutinho have needless to say, hit the ground running. Out of 7 signings, 2 have made an impression and should be first team regulars. Too soon to make a call on Borini until he gets more games under his belt. Having said all that, only Joe Allen cost some serious money.

When you say, "FSG needs to step up", I assume you mean they need to splash some cash? They have reiterated their stand on deficit spending. Even if they did, I doubt it will stop Suarez from leaving for Real and Pepe for Barca, 2 of the biggest clubs in the world.

Wasn't an accusation. It was a fact

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The club have issued a "not for sale" statement but Suarez has made it clear he wants to leave. I've read opinions which express anger directed at him for not being loyal when the club has stood by him all this while. Personally, I bare no grudge. Never expected him to see out his career with us. He had much earlier on expressed his desire to one day play for Real Madrid and it looks now like cometh the hour. The question of how much more he could take from the FA and media has been ever present so why the rage over him wanting to leave ?

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/317812/?

Andy Carroll would have thrived during Houllier's tenure. He's basically an Emile Heskey. Both are powerful forwards who are good in the air and who both have a howitzer for a left foot. Neither are blessed with blistering pace. However, gone are the days of Quinn-Phillips, Toshack-Keegan and Flo-Zola. Centre forwards these days are often required to defend, and switch out wide, so much so that teams do sometimes field teams with no out-and-out forwards. Arsene Wenger converted both Henry and Van Persie to centre forwards and it isn't uncommon to see both of them out wide because they are equally as comfortable there. Both also have played as lone forwards. During the last Euro, Spain fielded Fabregas as their furthest man forward, now referred to as a "false no.9". Unless Carroll wants to play under the likes of Big Sam or Tony Pulis, he needs to develop other facets of his game.

Whether or not Suarez is using the biased and often harsh treatment as an excuse for wanting to leave, he has from day 1, expressed his desire to play in Spain. He was honest about it and I can respect that. Now that an opportunity presents itself, why are we so shocked he's expressed his desire to leave? Is it also so hard to believe constantly having your husband labeled a racist and a cheat is frustrating for his missus? He wants to leave for a bigger club, he was said this before but it doesn't mean that he isn't being sincere about feeling uncomfortable in England. Mascherano cited how his family was having trouble adapting to life in England but I didn't see anyone burn his kit when he left.

Geeze don't men fight like real men anymore?

http://www.footballfriendsonline.com/blogs...nent-video.html?

I'm merely speaking from my perspective. If I were Suarez, I'd be grateful to the club for standing by me but hey, I'm no Stevie G or Jamie Carragher. I'm here until I can get a ticket to sunny Spain, where I've always wanted to play. Couple that with the fact my family comes first and Real have shown interest, it seems like the right time to move on. I don't need to keep taking crap from the FA. So yea, I was going to eventually move to Spain all along and circumstances have made it easier for me to pack up and leave now. If Real are willing to pay my buyout clause, there really is nothing anyone can do.

Touché.

When it comes to our bank account, I doubt Rodgers has the final say. All he can do is to convince FSG not to consider any offers for him, or at least not yet.

Let's try to look at it from FSG's perspective. You've just received an offer between 2-3 times what you paid for a bloke who :-

1) Will at some point want to move to Spain
2) Gets himself suspended each season
3) Is unhappy and is blaming everyone including the PM

Is it worth the risk? If we turn this offer down, will there be a better offer in the future?

I imagine that's what they're considering.

Personally I want him to stay but not if his heart isn't in it anymore. Look how Torres' form took a plunge the moment he started sulking. I'm with John Barnes on this. If he's unhappy, there's no point in forcing him to stay. We may as well cash in and bankroll someone (or two) who wants to play at the club. Sure we aren't in the CPL but that's still a sizeable amount to place a bid for a player. True we can adopt Shankly's, "that's Liverpool's knee" approach but I am not confident Suarez will respond well to being held hostage. We all know how petulant he can be despite having immense talent.

If Suarez does leave, the onus of scoring should not rest solely on any one replacement. The team as a whole needs to increase their output. Aside from Suarez, only Sturridge has managed double figures in the league. Gerrard comes a close third with 9 to his name but given that he's on the decline and he's being played progressively deeper, it's unlikely he's going to contribute much more. Who comes fourth? The much maligned Jordan Henderson. Keep in mind once again that these are league goals.

Sturridge may have only scored 10 but it's important to note that he did so in only 14 league appearances, some of which were coming off the bench. It's conceivable to believe that should he stay fit, he'd be approaching the 20 goal mark. If Borini stays fit and Aspas hits the ground running, it is likely that they will help pickup the slack as well. Suarez leaving therefore would be a setback but far from being a tragedy.

Big clubs are linked to him. Might be a stumbling block. It would be nice to have a midfielder who scores as many as a striker. Mentioned yesterday how Henderson was our fourth highest scorer in the league last season with a mere 5 goals. I personally feel it's more important to go out and get a midfielder who can get you goals, rather than attempting to look for a like-for-like replacement for Suarez should he leave. We've got Borini, Aspas and Sturridge on our books now but we haven't anyone other than an ageing Stevie G who can bag goals from midfield.

Well he was quoted as saying he wants to play for one of world football's big teams. The EPL is also the most followed league in the world. There is a substantial element of glam and fame that comes with playing for a Premiership side. It will help propel his stature and reputation, something he won't get from a league which has no live matches in our part of the world anyway.

Wasn't there some rule which made it impossible for Premier League clubs to buy foreign players from countries that rank low in world football? It's why we will never see a Malaysian turn out for a Premiership side any time soon. Armenia are currently ranked 90th.

Ah found it.

I don't think Armenia have averaged 70th in the past 2 years so I'm interested to see how this will work out.

Yes I think you are right. It's to do with the work permit.

Hmm based on the criteria you've listed, it just means that if someone is good enough, they can get around this rule. Shouldn't be a problem based on what I've been reading on him then.