I have a spare Athlon XP 2400+ with a MSI KM4M board - and they are still working correctly.

The thing is, I wanna cool it to until below 50 degrees - cause my stock cooling is extremely hot - until 50~65 celcius.

So which one do you recommend for these cooling sets? I don't know - but do stores in Low Yat still sell Thermalright SI-97 and the Artic Ceramique? How much is the price? and have anyone um... tried these combinations before?

arctic ceramic? why bother? Go for arctic silver instead. SI97 I think there's a few bulkers out there who can order for you. But Socket 7 cooling solutions nowadays are roughly the same. Just get a high cfm fan to match with your heatsink choice

This post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 19 2006, 10:02 PM

i think robyn got SI-97A..try check at thier pricelist

where where??? i wan!!! where's the pricelist? i wan! i wan!!!

Check out at Overclocker's Paradise.
Si-97A is recommended, since it can be used on S939 later on in future, I'm using one now btw

can refer to . www.lowyat.net

there will be a price list section on the left column,


GOOd LucK

yes..SI-97A is a good hsf..price around RM 190..and it can use s939

wow...so expensive wan... anybody selling 2nd hand cheap?

good thing never cheap

no need la waste money on all of this
i just got 2nd hand thermalright slk900u for 70 bucks
enough to cool my processor at 2.3ghz load is around 55 once oced with 1.7volts

it should be more than enouhg for you. I think someone is selling one here too for 70 plus a noisy as hell fan
go scout around ..if im not mistaken its beatle larvee or something

i agree with the frying fox.

The SLK900 U or A

works good enough for ATHLON XP

I think noobie is selling a brand new one. ...

GET A GOOD FAN !!.... WAla....

If not why dont try WaterCooling ?

for buying any product with heatpipe.
plz becareful to check and ensure each heatpipe works(transfer heat).

it isn't that get from bulk means bad.
but, preferable from local shop, instead when facing any rma issue, is promisable.

then how to check if each of the heatpipes are tranfering heat?

yeah,

is there a way to check wether each of the heatpipes from the heatsink works ??

if the temperature shoots up or not much changes,
there are problems with the heatpipe.

I manage to get 8degree cooler proc after using a Si-97A, pairing it with a lower noise fan.

8 degree drop is very good enuf

erm 8c drop on air cooling is GOOD..

i only dropped to 10c on WAterCooling..

only the difference of 2c between air and water

thinking of building an Air Cooling RIG soon....

Thermalright is definitely on the list

i presume the best hsf would be thermalright SI-97A for amd barton/socket a?
wut fan is recommended to be paired with the hsf since it doesn't come with 1

thermaltake 9cm smart fan

or other oem/industrial fan such as NMB, Nidec, Delta, etc...

but Thermalright themselves recommended Panaflo if I'm not mistaken

anyway can a TT Big Typhoon be used for amd 2500+ barton?

haih....SI-97A.......i am still finding a 2nd hand wan...

i thought someone was selling the SI-97 in the Garage Sale....

for RM 85.

but i think its SOLd.

ya...i've seen it, but he hilang some off the thing ady wan.... no fan clip and etc...

Only 2c drop ? I think u can get higher difference with water, maybe u need to tweak ur wc setup to get higher differences which also depends on your wc setup. I myself get roughly 8-10c differences with water. For comparison, last time i was using TT Volcano 11+ with 46c idle temp and load temp at around 52c. Now i can get 42c load with my T-Bred B, and 2c lower with a Barton core proc with the same setup at the same speed 2.2Ghz @ 1.7V.

Bro,

the 2c drop is between the SI97 and Modded Bigwater non-se .

Maybe the temp a bit high because of the submerged pump

Well, i am trying my luck with a new set of watercooling kit.

Hopefully i will get better results

hi all,

i m using XP2000 with K7Ndelta. my processor always shoot up to 58 - 60 degree when i do full load 100% processor. but when idle only 43 degree (normal browsing only 46-47 degree)

my HSF is original from AMD
added artic silver II thermal paste (borrow from franz)
processor at normal speed (no overclock)
casing open both side

1) is it processor rosak edi?
2) should i put the CPU warning at 65 degree above?
3) buy better fan will help?

1) is it processor rosak edi?
Not rosak, maybe your ambient temp is high so it will lead to a higher load temp.
2) should i put the CPU warning at 65 degree above?
Maybe u should. Having at temperature that high would lead to a shorter lifespan for the proc.
3) buy better fan will help?
Hell yeah. Buy any full copper hsf with a good fan so that that combo would perform to the fullest. Thermalright SI97A or Thermaltake Big Typhoon or Coolermaster Aero 7+. You can get these from moderno at Bulk Sales.

Bro, ur temp is like my temp when i was on stock heatsink ... like now

Full load around 55-58 @ stock heatsink.

I dunt think ur processor rosak already.... if not sure ur pc cannot use rite now

If i were u , i wud put it at 65c , even mine is set at 65c

You should get a better fan and heatsink...

If u have the money and dont mind hassle's , can go for watercooling, if not just go for Copper / ALuminium heatsink , Thermalright SLK800A or Thermalright si-97 , Thermaltake Pipe 101 , thermaltake GOLF325 .... COOLERMASTER

GOOD LUCK

zhari, what is the fan u using now? full load still 55-58?

moderno sell super cheap there? hehe....

together with this is my i sliding door open tempreture, if both open temp will be lower.


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its a 60mm Coolermaster Fan.....

i think its 60mm....

here is my results on ABIT EQ



owh... hehe... mine is open too rite now.. hehe.....


I would reccomend u get a Copper Heatsink.
There is a cheap and reliable one i would reccomend.
SLK800A from noobie.
Try Pming him

GOOD LUCK



This post has been edited by zahri: May 12 2006, 11:57 AM

how come urs 56? u oc it is it?
maybe i buy 1 chasis fan 1st... cos i saw u got chasis fan.

i changed from stock heatsink to cm xtream III...
temp maybe reduce 2C, but noise reduce alot!! the fan is running 2000rpm only... stock 6cm hsf runs at 4500++rpm...

max temp is 53C i think during heavy load...normal internet browsing is 46C... i dun care much bout temp, jz that the noise matters...

hehe....

Oc erm... dunt thnk so... 2200+ running at 1.8 ghz

FSB 200 x 9

Chassis Fan i got 3 chassis fan blowing in

3 blowing out




Smokey,

u got that 53c temp from OCing ur 1700+ @ 2 ghz or at stock 1700+ speed ?

No need new SI97 wan lah.. a rm80 new TT Silent Boost + additional cooler master 8cm fan can cool my 2.2ghz / 1.9v at 58c.

58c on FULL Load ?

erm.. quite high....

Is that on Ttake GOLF325 + SILENT CAT ?

58c i think is still quite of high...

i get 53C max at 2GHz... using default voltage only...

erm.... 53c at 2ghz is not bad...

i am at 56-58c @ 1.8 ghz @ 1.7v it hink.. ( stock heatsink )

So hot ar all all the procs, i think better get a decent cooling before anything happened. 10c drop can make the procs have twice longer lifespan.

yalor...mine wan very hot very playing games/full load.... at 65c....using stock hsf. coz now still finding for a 2nd hand SI-97A...

btw....now mostly the new intel's proc like pentium d at normal idle temp already near 70c....

Intel got serious heat issue until now. I think it will be solved with conroe later. But ur AXP temp looks too high lah. I also worry.

hehehe....

yeah.... Intel had heat issues starting with prescott.. ouch... .hot !!

my AXP will be cool DOWN in a few days time....

COnfirmed No LEAK on the new WC system. so

after my last paper on Wednesday will i have the time to diassemble my pc and rebuild it to be DEAD sILENT !!

what is the voltage we should use? mine 1.74 no OC woh. original speed somemore. XP2000 @ 1.6ghz

Wah, stock also using 1.74 V eh ? Try to go into bios and select Load Optimized Settings. That would reset the voltage to default.

throughbred core are normally at 1.75 (t-bred a) or 1.65 (t bred b)

mine is at 1.65 or 1.6 tbred BLUR2.

tbred stuck in the middle hehehe.......


1.75v stock.. .erm.....

try lowering ur voltage. to 1.65v ??

u can noe ur default voltage from looking at ur proc core code...

Mine stock at 1.53ghz @ 1.5v lah. Are u sure ? Mine T-Bred B also.

yup....ur mobo will detect it at 1.5v by default. mine wan also, if u din overclock the undervolt like that is ok...temp also low....but if overclock, then u muz raise it higher.

mine is tbred sesat huhu....

how come its at 1.55 sometimes at 1.65... weird.....

its tbread AB hehehe......


Just Like GKwong said, can just see ur OPN code to know whats the default voltage of the processor...

this is mine 1.74
will try to lowerdown it and full load it again.
how to see mine is a or b? or sesat? hehehe
how come cpuz can detect my processor is xp2000+? i saw others forumer only stated AMD Athlon XP only woh....



This post has been edited by yloon: May 14 2006, 03:22 AM

oooh no.. my cmos there is set to "by H/W" but i force it to 1.65
result voltage swithcing/jumping from 1.68v - 1.728v
idle tempreture up from 43 to 50c now

processor cannot full load at 100% only 86% to 100%

This post has been edited by yloon: May 14 2006, 03:45 AM


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err...noob here...how much temperature to a pc consider very hot? my amd 3000+ venice always at 40-43 for no close pc around 3 weeks....if close it will be 33....is it mine consider hot a? should need any cooling part???

help help!!! after i play around with my voltage from by HW to 1.65 then 1.70 then back to by HW, now my idle speed is 54c. how come?

Hmm I was using Alpha PAL8045 on my XP1700+ @ 2GHz 1.75v last time.. I should say it was good, idle around 42 and loads at 47~48 on 25c room temp.

yloon: is your casing well ventilated? meaning the hot air from the casing is exhausted well from the casing and there's cool air going in from the front? it plays an important role too. Good Luck

I am using a my old AMD Athlon 2400+ (T-bird) as a Server Box. I got RMClock installed with HTL Command [forgot that exact command]. It cools down my CPU up to 2-4*C when its idle..[So its around 52*C , bear in mind its with stock cooler and cheap chaplang fan]....Its pretty good , the downside , Windows Task Manager would report that the application uses 100% CPU Usage...[which is actually not]...Its pretty good

weem....no any sifus here wanna answer my noob question?

ur temp is considered very ok....just relax...stay cool...

I din undervolt, that's the default voltage.

Sometimes 1.55v, sometimes at 1.65v ? U got a voltage fluctuation there. What PSU ure using now ?

The reason why only AMD Athlon Xp is the speed is not the same like the official ones.

Why in the first place u forced it to 1.65V ? If you're not overclocking just leave it default.

Its not hot at all. Dont worry, since you're using AMD64 u got Cool n Quiet which will throttle down ur cpu clock if there not much activity.

Its the same like CPUidle.

yeah,

it tends to fluctuate...

erm..
im using the Coolermaster 450 purepower PSU ......

after a few calls with some shops from lowyat
it seems dat the SI-97A is not in production anymore
any other heatsink to recommend?

reason of mine is 1.75v because mine is palomino core. tbred is 1.65, barton core also 1.65
i upgrade from XP2000 to Barton2500, now max tempreture is 56c hehehehe... better liao. barton 2500 using stock fan.

read this pdf file from AMD to regconize what type and the voltage of ur processor....
http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/assets/content_ty...n_Rev05_ENG.pdf

You people can also check ur Processor Details here.

Just enter ur OPN CODE.

---------->>> Click Here <<<------------

err...si 97 a???robyncom got i think since its in the p[rice list...

http://www.lowyat.net/v2/pricelist/robyncom.pdf

yeah made a call to them and they said they not sellin it

This post has been edited by bertz: May 18 2006, 10:47 PM

Hey guys, I need your help with something.

My AXP 1800+ TB (NF7-M) idle temp is at around 149 F running on stock HSF and it got me worried sick. So I'm planning to get a new HSF + AS5 to cool it down.

I've narrowed it to THERMALTAKE Polo 735 Rev 2.0 3-in-1 and COOLER MASTER Aero 7+ / Jet +.

I need some opinion on which is better (beside the fact that Polo supports K8/P4) in term of performance. I've read a couple of reviews linked from the manufacture's site and still can't decide which. Hopefully someone in here can shed some light.

And one more thing, I noticed that the Polo doesn't come with a 3pin (unlike CM's which has a 4pin molex for power and a 3 pin for monitoring purpose). How am I supposed to monitor the fan speed then?

i'm using a AMD 2500+ XP... using stock fan idle around 52C on load 58C... now changed to coolermaster jet 7+ idle 44C on load 55C... howcome still sooo hot wan???? :S summore i'm not running on 1.8Ghz which is AMD 2500+ default speed rather i'm running at 1.61GHz...

JET7 is not a performance cooler lar. Not by today's standard anyway.

you might want to try Thermaltake Silent Tower.....you can turn it into quite a good heatsink with a high cfm 92mm fan

SHIT!!! den i bought wrong cooler??? thought coolermaster is a good brand... anyway got the coolermaster jet+ 7 kinda cheap la... juz RM70++

can the xp90 used for socket a?
notice someone using it for his k7 platform here[COLOR=red]

nop, it cant be use for socket a. http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/main_product_xp90.htm

btw, the link u giv the person is not using socket a.

I'd say better get a better cooler than the jet7

try thermalright slk800a ? or Thermaltake Silent Tower or CM Hyper 6 ?

thermaltake silent tower is very good. but the size is very huge...so muz depend on wut casing and wut motherboard u are using.

I have my Athlon XP 1800+ (Thoroughbred B) overclocked to 2104MHz using a cooler that I bought from PC Fair with RM 30 (a copper base heatsink+fan) now it is operating at 65 degrees under F@H with the help of desk fan to cool down. The processor can go up to 79 degrees without freezing. so you processor temperature seems normal brother.

79c is mad.... over the critical temp for mobo to shutdown ur pc...hehe
btw wut is ur vcore voltage?

warghhh

79 degrees...

almost close to ur DIE teMp...

80 degrees or 90 degrees...

ur shortening the lifespan of ur cooler

id say u shud get a better cooler for ur proc, ..

hehe
79C happen 2 me
but still can run without freeze
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=315561
how much temp for the proc to "kabooo"??

depends....

some processor's limit is 90 and some is 80.

depends on the proc too..

can check it out, with the OPN CODE on ur Processor ..

try changing ur heatsink and reapply Artic Silver 5.

I'm sure u will see some improvement in ur temps.

I'm running a 2500++ barton mobile at 2Ghz. stock cooling, idle is 42- 42 , load is around 47-49. 1.6v

and if it reaches 65, the pc will auto shutdown. try checking in ur bios, if it has that feature.


GOOD LUCK...

is Zalman CNPS7000B-Cu Heatsink Fan can be used with abit nf7-s v2.0 mainboard?

any issue?

how's it performance in term of cooling and noise?

any comparable other heatsinks to this zalman stuff?

What about the Aero7+ That's what i'm using at the moment. 47C no load and 56-57C full load at max fan speed which is around 3600RPM.

I dunt think NF7-S v2.0 is compatible...

check out the compatability chart ---- >> CNPS7000A/B compatible Socket 462 Motherboard list



I think aero 7 and jet 7 is almost the same.....

Aero came out first then only JET.

yeah. i am also doubting the zalman heatsink coz there some big capacitors close to the socket.

i am considering to buy thermaltake volcano or polo which has standard retention clip.

I prefer them over the big typhoon because i always move my casing from a place to another place. I am afraid if the giant cooler can crush my cpu core while move the casing.

anybody using Tt Big Typhoon on their NF7? how is the result? still doubt if the big typhoon can fit into my iCute high tower or not....havent reli go measure the place. but the PSU is quite near the heatsink area...

I'm using jet 7 with MSi Mobo. 50c idle and 58 -60c full load with 4100 rpm.
but sometime my mobo aslo whistle to me to inform me that the temp are a bit high. i set the alarm at 66 c.

erm...

have u tried cleaning ur heatsink and fan, and reapplying new thermal paste ???

whats ur core voltage ???


i wud say polo or volcano is ok, i have used those before and i think the performace is ok, but fan is kinda noisy

as for the big typhoon, i dunt think it will crush ur cpu core, i think it comes with a copper shim, if it does not come with one, then u can get one...

i bought mine separately, and have been using it eversince..

wah zahri. Is is true, no problem to move the casing frequently? just get the copper shim with the Tt Big Typhoon?

by the way what the idle and load temp with the big typhoon?

can fit the Big Typhoon into normal ATX casing? I am afraid that the PSU will block the insertation of this giant cooler.

me too me too....doubt later bought ady can fit. anywan hav their big typhoon pic fitted on their mobo?

erm . . .

i think there is a misunderstanding here . .

What i meant was, if u are getting a big typhoon, and it doesnt come with a copper shim, then u can buy it separately

I am not using Big Typhoon, I have an SI-97 and DangerDEn TDX Waterblock.

i tried installing an SI-97 on a faulty proc before and it chipped the core a bit when i was installing the retention clip. So i used a copper shim on another proc (the real proc i was gonna used) and installed the si-97, although the heatsink moved a bit, the core was not crushed nor chipped.

so i think it will work for the big typhoon

GOOD LUCK

Try asking around for TT BIG TYPHOON USERS.

I am sure u can move ur casing around, maybe just dont bump it too much or shake it

All the BEST

hmm, thank for ur explanation. I've googled and seen the picture of copper shim.

that cool. I am sure it can protects the cpu core from being crushed or chipped. My question now, which shop sell this item? Is it still available?

Maybe I should go to Overclockers Paradise. I want to ask their staffs whether they got this copper shim.

How much it priced?

This post has been edited by coolblade: Jul 27 2006, 12:05 PM

No Problem

Glad i cud help

I bought mine last time for RM 18.

If u want i can get one for u ( PM ME )


Maybe can go around shops and ask. i am sure they have those

can be the shim be too thick, then cpu core cant contact well with hsf? or the shim too thin, then no effect at all?

the shim i got was perfectly nice

not too thick not too thin . . . i guess there could only be 1 size.

from my point of view,

the shim is used to ensure that the heatsink is evenly placed on top of the core ( ensuring that the core touches the heatsink and not putting too much force on the core ) .

Good Luck.