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> Fellowes that sells paypal fund, Re: raist86

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post Apr 22 2006, 01:30 AM

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this is not even settled between the two parties, why fellowes mati mati wanna close this thread ? Anything more than what it seems ? hhhmmm...
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post Apr 22 2006, 01:59 AM

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Intresting huh? Fellowes keep demanding to close this thread while raist86 keep defending himself. I guess we can see some picture in here.

This post has been edited by Mr Ez: Apr 22 2006, 02:04 AM
raist86
post Apr 22 2006, 08:18 AM

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Look, i'm in pretty serious shit now. no offence to Shark but sending those messages to my friends is just plain stupid. I just want her to clear my name and resolve this issue.

I'm against Fellowes demand to close this thread until this issue has been solved.

PS: i've sent email, lowyat.net PM and friendster message to Shark aka Kwee Ling to come here and resolve this issue since it first surfaced.

This post has been edited by raist86: Apr 22 2006, 08:19 AM
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post Apr 23 2006, 11:19 PM

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hmm... it's been a few days since shark has gone missing..
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post Apr 24 2006, 01:57 AM

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Wheres shark? Hes being irresponsible for not solving an dispute hes started in the first place. Probly he should put in the M.O list instead for tarnishing raist86 name (if hes innocent). Just to be fair.
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post Apr 24 2006, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(shark @ Apr 19 2006, 03:34 PM)
Let's start with this thread
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=274906

I was urgently looking for US$100 (which is RM350) paypal fund.
I decided to buy from this new guy - Fellowes. We talked on MSN.
Since he's new, i dare not transfer all RM350 to him at one time.
So i told him to make it 3 times, $30 $30 and $40.

Then i paid RM105 (for the first $30) to his maybank:
111177084801 (LYNX TIONG XUNJIA)

And he went offline immediately after i told him i've made the payment. I got ashocked and smell sth fishy. I told a few friends abt it, asking them to PM this Fellowes saying tat they want to buy paypal fund, so that i can get more of his details. (But i didnt expect that Fellowes will reply them, thking tat my money will be gone.)

Then, i found this thread opened right after tat:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=277921

I was suspecting that they're same person (Fellowes and raist86), so i told that few friends again, asking them to act as buyers, so that i can see whether they're the same person. My friends talked to raist86 and managed to get his details which are these:

Mobile: <Hidden for now, will disclose if needed>
I/C: <Hidden for now, will disclose if needed>
Name: Aaron Lee Wen Cheen
Maybank Account: 104085221778
Paypal email: aaron_gryp@yahoo.com

Unfortunately, the name and maybank accounts were different. So i was kinda disappointed, and thking to give up and learnt from this lesson. Now, out of my expectation, Fellowes replied one of my friends, and he also came online to MSN again.

Things are getting interesting now... (But pls forgive me, im not a good story teller)

He said "sorry", and "i'll do the transfer now". I checked my paypal, yes, somebody transferred $30 to me - from aaron_gryp@yahoo.com! (See http://demo.mogutou.com/aaron.jpg) BUT, the $30 came from his credit card, my personal account cannot accept credit card payment. (Before u submit a payment to someone, u can actually see that what kind of account he has, if its personal account, then u know he wont be able to accept ur credit card payment. And dont u find it weird? Will someone sell Paypal fund from credit card? Credit card's rate is around 3.8, and u sell the fund for 3.5?) So, i had to reject his payment and gave him another paypal account tat can accept credit card payment. And here goes the http://demo.mogutou.com/fff1.rtf conversation.

From the conversation, u can see that he said he will refund me by last nite. Few hours later, i met him online again at around 9pm plus, so i asked him what time he's going to transfer. He said before 12am. I even reminded him that online banking close at 12am, he said "i'll transfer before 12am, not at 12am". And as i expected, i did not receive the refund.

Today's afternoon, he came online again. And told me that he didnt receive the tac, so didnt refund. (Phew, i didnt understd why he couldnt refund me at 9pm when i saw him online - if he really want to refund). And here goes that http://demo.mogutou.com/fff2.rtf conversation. And he actually transferred the $30 from "his friend" leekhoeeric@yahoo.com paypal account. This time, i managed to get back the $30, yay. And here goes the http://demo.mogutou.com/fff3.rtf conversation.

That's the end of story. Even if he sends me the screenshot, i will not deal with him again. And, i have to say, i cannot confirm that Fellowes and raist86 are the same person (or they berpakat?). Maybe Fellowes try to buy paypal fund from others and send the fund to me, so that he can con more money, who knows?

However, if they got nothing to do with each other, can u believe that raist86 is actually selling paypal fund from his credit card? Myself cant believe it, i'm not sure about u. But pls be careful if u want to deal with these guys.

ps: While im typing this, he sent me a "screenshot" (see http://demo.mogutou.com/paypal.jpg and http://demo.mogutou.com/fff4.rtf). Paypal address fellowes0401@hotmail.com, which wasnt exist yesterday when i tried to check. And now exist as "Non-U.S. UNVERIFIED Personal Member (new)" (See http://demo.mogutou.com/fellowes.jpg) but already hv many transactions and received many payments. So now, i can confirm that Fellowes is a conman (but not sure abt raist86).
PLEASE BECAREFUL WHEN U WANT TO BUY PAYPAL FUND / EGOLD FUND / WHATEVER FROM NEWBIES. If u hv very little experience, pls get advice from some old birds b4 u pay. Dun be stupid like me =.="
To raist86: Sorry if u're really innocent. U're welcome to explain.
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post Apr 25 2006, 08:12 PM

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Still no sign of shark. Someone help please??
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post Apr 25 2006, 08:52 PM

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We'll wait for shark until this weekend to log on. If he still doesn't log on,we'll look into it and decide from there smile.gif
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post Apr 26 2006, 01:35 PM

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thanks so much for pointing this out, I really thank u~ I have been cheated b4 and is more careful these days, but then again, there is always a chance that someone is planning to cheat, so we have to get together as good traders and recognize those fishy ones~tongue.gif
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post Apr 28 2006, 03:43 PM

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Still missing.... man she's so free with her accusations but when time comes for clarification, she goes missing..
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post Apr 29 2006, 06:24 PM

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maybe shark is sick? or his modem got problem?
have you tried to contact his/her number?
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post Apr 30 2006, 03:28 PM

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no tel number available..
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post May 3 2006, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(psYCHopath @ Apr 29 2006, 06:24 PM)
maybe shark is sick? or his modem got problem?
have you tried to contact his/her number?
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I am not trying to be rude but why are you assuming such a thing? You know him or something to know that he is sick or modem got problem? If you don't even know that person, why would you speculate such a thing? What is the basis of your comment?

If you know him well, maybe you would know that he like to fish. Then you can say he probably went fishing in Pulau Ketam then probably fell into the water and got eaten by crabs. Or else, don't try to be Mr/Ms nice guy by putting useless comments.

Damn, I sound rude. Just hope you guys get my point.

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post May 3 2006, 04:50 PM

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Topic temporarily closed to avoid further spamming.

To shark, when you're back or to raist86 (if you want to add something), drop me a PM and I'll reopen this thread.

Thanks smile.gif

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Thread reopened as request by shark.

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shark
post May 3 2006, 11:46 PM

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First of all, i want to say, fellowes is a conman. If he's not, he didnt need to modify his paypal screenshot to cheat me, so that i would buy more fund from him. But i dont undersd why he's still here saying this is just a misunderstd.

raist86, i dont know about this guy. I didnt understd why someone needs to sell paypal fund from credit card, so i found him suspicious and i thought i should tell other forumers to beware. I did not say he is a conman though.

And i'm sorry raist86 if i've caused some probs by msging ur fds. When i msg them, i did not think of u might be another "victim" or u're just a "middle man". During that time, i just wanted to get back my money, and so i did everything to try getting back the money. I'll explain to ur fds by showing them this thread if this will help, and if u still need cash, just give me a msg. I've added u on msn.
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post May 4 2006, 12:29 AM

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i'd be happy if you'd just send those whom you've messaged a note saying that it's just all a misunderstanding.. if you need their names, i can help you with that.. i've asked my friends to forward me the messages..

don't bother asking them to view this thread.. 90% of them won't be bothered to click the link.. just a simple appology letter would do..\

edit: perhaps you would also like to explain why did you left this thread hanging for so long...

This post has been edited by raist86: May 4 2006, 12:32 AM
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post May 4 2006, 12:52 PM

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I'll tell them that i've got back the money from this guy fellowes0401@hotmail.com, and there might be some misunderstding. And will ask them to read this thread if they wish to know more. (I wont say it's all misunderstding, coz i dont know if its really all misunderstding.) So... will this help?

Oh, i didnt login here and didnt online much last few days (or weeks.. i forgot), coz was having war with gf, not feeling well and went to join some tours, so.... Really sorry for dragging it, didnt mean to drag but really feeling upset tat time, so.... I will do what i should do to close this case now, ok? smile.gif
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post May 4 2006, 01:43 PM

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DONE DEAL.
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post May 4 2006, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(abubin @ May 3 2006, 11:26 AM)
I am not trying to be rude but why are you assuming such a thing? You know him or something to know that he is sick or modem got problem? If you don't even know that person, why would you speculate such a thing? What is the basis of your comment?

If you know him well, maybe you would know that he like to fish. Then you can say he probably went fishing in Pulau Ketam then probably fell into the water and got eaten by crabs. Or else, don't try to be Mr/Ms nice guy by putting useless comments.

Damn, I sound rude. Just hope you guys get my point.
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omg you starting a fire.....
haha some ppl laugh.gif

well i did know shark last time, nice guy but that was last time. whistling.gif Well i deal with him quite alot, so do I know the person? smile.gif


well in this case i'm not in anyone side but can say that spreading bad things about a person is not good, but childish? sweat.gif
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post May 4 2006, 10:14 PM

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Sometimes we got no choice but hv to do some childish thgs to try get back the money. However, when we realised we might hv done sth wrong, we have to say sorry and try to do somethg back for that person. In this case, i'll msg raist86's fds one by one to explain again.

So yea... case closed... I'll contact raist86 via MSN smile.gif

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