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 Alienware Mothership V10, AW 14,17 & 18 released!

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post Aug 20 2013, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(Prince J @ Aug 20 2013, 01:03 AM)
Alienware 17 has only 2 SATA connectors, one ODD and one msata SSD if I am not mistaken.
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hey thanks a lot for clearing things up.
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post Aug 20 2013, 09:33 AM

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that's one way. however i still think it's better to get an msata ssd to replace the stock one as OS drive, then put the hdd in the odd.

additionally, you can create a ramdisk with a fraction of your 32gb of ram (8 to 16gb) and points all temp folders to it. this helps in reducing reads/writes to your ssd's, while having a speed that is a few times faster than a raid0.

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post Aug 20 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Aug 20 2013, 09:57 AM)
bro the ODD slot would be Sata 2 right? the two HD bays will be sata 3 for sure... M sata.. is sata 3 too if not mistaken. But I think ODD will be sata 2. Any thoughts?
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for aw 17 that has a haswell chipset (hm87, up to 4 sata3), and from the possibility for it to do a raid0 with all 4 ssd's, i suspect they are all sata3. we can use hwinfo64 to view the actual one in the system under (bus > pci bus > sata ahci controller)

m17xr4's odd is of sata2.
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post Aug 20 2013, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Aug 20 2013, 10:18 AM)
you mean 3 ssds and one m sata?
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for aw17, correct.

QUOTE(joshuachew @ Aug 20 2013, 10:18 AM)
If i were to purchase a 480GB MSATA am a able to use this as my Cdrive? or is it better to buy a 256GB MSATA and use it as an OS drive? How big would an OS drive need to be? Not minimum but with ample of safety space.
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actually this depends on your usage. to me 256gb is my optimum (after i have done some over-provisioning, with minimal page files, hibernate turned on).
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post Aug 21 2013, 12:48 AM

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lol!
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post Aug 22 2013, 10:15 AM

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hi guys, my humble aw is an m17x r4. i so need it to ease my itches (yeah the poison was strong :/).

did a very minor ssd/ram upgrade with my stocks and a clean w8 pro install last night. seamless smile.gif
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post Aug 22 2013, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(Aura @ Aug 22 2013, 10:23 AM)
Upgrade did I hear? 32GB RAM?  brows.gif

At least u have a machine to play with. I need to wait till 1st week of Sept to get mine. That's what I've been told. It seems that a lot of "rich" ppl who bought Alienware 17s opted for GTX 780M GPUs.  sad.gif

Now on Dell website, Alienware 17 models cannot upgrade to GTX 780Ms anymore until they restock it.  sweat.gif

Oh well, which this kind of timeframe, I still can get more upgrades for my machine. laugh.gif
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yeah now i just have a pair of 4gb hynix lying around, and 2x256gb 840 pro. when the new 4x8gb ram arrived i will do a full ram swap, and replace the odd with a hdd caddy. hope to make the machine as quiet as possible haha!

right, shortage is everywhere now :/ i am still waiting for 17 with cpu and gpu upgrade options.

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post Aug 22 2013, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(joshuachew @ Aug 22 2013, 11:33 PM)
I can't read any drives to install windows but they're in the BIOS.
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try turn the legacy rom on in the bios. it's better to run w8 in uefi mode. just make sure your installer is uefi-capable. w8 in legacy mode is much slower imo.

are you installing w8 pro?
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post Aug 23 2013, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(balat @ Aug 23 2013, 12:31 AM)
How's the Alienware so far mate, and how the temps during intense gaming?

Been using my G53JW, nearly three years old, somehow I don't see it breaking any soon, unfortunately it is not as good as it used to be in handling nowadays games, not surprising anyway  tongue.gif  Alienware should be great for my next upgrade.
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hey balat, do it. (you should do it last year haha!)

there will be a thing or two to get used to. we are used to asus g-series. the immediate difference that you will notice is that the laptop will be warmer than asus g-series. however, its not the palmrest area (it gets warmer; still tolerable), but the area above keyboard, where power button is located (much hotter). i was kind of worried until i checked my gpu temperature with furmark 15-min burn-in. it stayed at 74c at room temperature.

to me, thats impressive. my g55 gpu is 660m and it peaked at 74c after i did a thermal paste replacement and cleaning up fans; while this m17 has a 680m, and i havent done anything to it yet.

i know it is not a fair comparison as g55 is a 15", but this brings me to another point: for gaming, get 17" or above, with compatible cooling parts.

We all know asus g-series run cooler for a number of reasons. The same reasons make the laptops to have very limited lifespan for gaming, and you can't do anything about it, except for getting a new one. i have upgraded my g55 cpu to 3820qm, and sadly the cooling is insufficient when i played games (peaked at 103c lol! luckily i don't have time to game as much these days).

if youre looking for the next upgrade, aw 17 is for you.

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about the fan noise, yeah it's loud during heavy gaming (along with heat, this is inherited when you want more power). for common usage it's relatively quiet.

about maintainability, finally i have the chance to do the cleanups more easily for cpu/gpu. the design of aw is somewhat the reverse of asus g-series. it needs some work to get to certain parts (e.g. hidden rams, msata slot, and odd for swapping with hdd caddy). just plan the purchases and do it in one go.


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post Aug 23 2013, 10:52 PM

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SRT is for smart caching, so you dont need it.

Is your machines hd graphic enabled? Check your bios. I think for higher end gpu's this is disabled.
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post Aug 24 2013, 08:56 AM

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congratulations, joshuachew

a sweet rig there smile.gif

looks like 17 has morphed and it is easier to tear down than r4 to access those hidden stuff. the keyboard and palm rest is also one-piece. nice!
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post Aug 25 2013, 01:46 AM

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note: there is a problem with the latest 320.xx drivers with m17x r4 and 120Hz refresh rate (booted up fine but with a black blank screen). the current solution is to use 314.22 or lower drivers.

if you encountered this, don't panic. just put it to sleep and then wake it up. everything is fine again. a weird bug from GeForce drivers lol!

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post Aug 25 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Aug 25 2013, 10:25 AM)
I am using 326.41 without any problems. And I've got the 326.80 beta update too. Didn't install it yet.
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Are you running the 120Hz refresh rate, too? Many are getting this.
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post Aug 25 2013, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Aug 25 2013, 10:33 AM)
Actually shouldn't be a problem for us as we both have same specs. hmm. Weird that you're getting it.
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you're right smile.gif what's your bios version? i'm still a09.

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post Aug 25 2013, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Aug 25 2013, 12:27 PM)
and now I am running A12 bios hehe smile.gif
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Alright smile.gif Maybe after this i patch it to a11. Now i am looking for ways to revert to stock bios if sh!t happens.

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post Aug 25 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Aug 25 2013, 02:45 PM)
shit wont happen bro. AW bios for R4 quite stable. infact google about it if someone got any problems.
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yeah but I just prefer to have backup plan haha.. now running a12.
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post Aug 25 2013, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Aug 25 2013, 05:07 PM)
(y) How's A12 treating you?
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looked stable to me. i'm not sure yet. just installed haha.. downloaded the latest beta from GeForce. will give it a try later.

edit: 326.84 was not working for me lol!

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post Aug 25 2013, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Aug 25 2013, 05:54 PM)
326.84?

I am installing 326.80 beta now. I don't think thr is .84 out yet
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well.. there is smile.gif
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post Aug 25 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(mansooriqbal @ Aug 25 2013, 06:05 PM)
ill stick with .80 till .84 shows on my geforce experience biggrin.gif

Btw in order to check whether driver is stable or not.. is it necessary to play heavy games like crysis 3 etc? because these days I just play HoN as I don't have much time for gaming.
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lol k smile.gif

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imo that's the most common way to do stress testing (for in-game artifacts).
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post Aug 26 2013, 09:38 PM

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