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 ~★★ Guardian Cross® V7 thread ★★~, Are you game to be a Guardian Master?

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post May 2 2013, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ May 2 2013, 11:34 AM)
Oops. That must be my dupe. whistling.gif

Actually, my deck for coli are:

Sonic Odin
Sonic Marco
Sonic Morrighan
Sonic V. Specter
Sonic Siren
Sonic Barbie
Sonic Lamia
Ace Nuada
Ace Thor
Maniacal Jugg

Awesome to say the least. flex.gif
But it will depends on certain guardians. Not all are suitable to use Sonic type, especially the weaker guardians like HFNix and Chariot.
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wow super sonic deck ... i think nightheart is not here , else his heart will be pumping fast ...

he's a speed demon which opt for sonic over rb aces ... brows.gif

hmmmm like bro jk said , better go for ele than phy QS + LS pair cox lilith will tore them apart ...

replace nuada to your most loves wis SE and thor to sonic lilith ... and change morri to QS ele4 LS ..

hhahahah should be able to pawn good ! ..

is the super sonic deck in your funny IGN .. later go try try after 4 pm smile.gif


QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 11:49 AM)
wow sonic team! insane! cool. But with this team, u will hit wall v v soon, once u reach A+....i think bro supermac can elaborate more!
u need to watch out abba/lilith.
u need to be best all elem build now. i am now even remove siren/ffv gilga & alm spec. not stable! so no more LSer in it, better win! coz all card are damn fast! ffv gilga also consider damn slow oledi.
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hmmmm ... u took out even spec ? she have 4700+agi .. damn fast 1 wor .. or u hate his death too unstable !?

hahahah follow me , go spoil the value of spec by replacing death4 to ele4 .. smile.gif

let me guess .. which 3 alm u using now ?

alm wise golbez , alm sonic dominion , maniacal jugg ?
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post May 2 2013, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(negisf @ May 2 2013, 12:06 PM)
There won't be any gathering soon? my movies plan with you guys seems like no responses... nobody's interested?

1st gathering : feb
2nd gathering : Apr

So does that means 3rd gathering : jun ??
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this gathering is going to massive and crazy ..

cox i remember bro negisf say he is going to come out with a super crazy event for participants ~ smile.gif

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QUOTE(shiroikun @ May 2 2013, 12:21 PM)
added u as well, try social battle and give comments... i used up my points need to wait 4pm
june too far la, make it this month la..haha so Negisf the organizer?
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hahahha ... have to let night + funny + negisf to work it out .. smile.gif

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post May 2 2013, 01:53 PM

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well ... i'm searching high and low for a alm sonic fujin .. cox .... cox.....

i'm being hit by my worse defeat in my GC elite career ....

i'm not saying i'm immortal in elite colli , but since i join elite .. this is my worse defeat ...

i got no eye see really ...

maybe is not that he is good , or my card is bad .. is just that i really suck in arranging new ocean into my deck doh.gif

pictures says it all ...

well u all can laugh at me i'm fine with it ... blush.gif

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QUOTE(JarodLeong @ May 2 2013, 01:56 PM)
no one will laugh at you bro mac... i dunno others but mine sometime worst than this...
所谓“一山还比一山高“
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yea... “一山还比一山高“ ... all his cards i also got , he without new ocean .. can sau pei me untill so clean !

really salute notworthy.gif

buthen really .. dunno why after getting new ocean .. i feel my deck goes worse .. zzzzzz

this is because those new ocean not performing as good and i dunno how to slot them into my deck ..

and my colli route is tough , being push out of rank S for the 1st time .. usually i linger around 80-100 position never kena push out of 200 before ..

time to retire for me ~ rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(supermac @ May 2 2013, 01:53 PM)
well ... i'm searching high and low for a alm sonic fujin .. cox  .... cox.....

i'm being hit by my worse defeat in my GC elite career ....

i'm not saying i'm immortal in elite colli , but since i join elite .. this is my worse defeat ...

i got no eye see really ...

maybe is not that he is good , or my card is bad .. is just that i really suck in arranging new ocean into my deck  doh.gif

pictures says it all ...

well u all can laugh at me i'm fine with it ...  blush.gif

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look again at this pic ... really damn GG .......

but u guys can go battle him , since i edi bought away his alm sonic fujin ...

QUOTE(animianacs @ May 2 2013, 02:26 PM)
need some help...how to arrange my deck... @@
got not much time for colli...so just trying my best...

1. AceR Omega
2. alm.sonic s.bird
3. RB cool IM -clean
4. SOnic Siren -clean
5. wise aspara -clean
6. alm. sonic bahamut
7. acer mepth
8. alm. wise christmas banshee
9. acer nuada
10. acer SE

got others here
1. int pandora
2. cool rb
3. alm. sonic chariot
>_<
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hmmmm ... i'm in the middle of some work can't think now ..

other sifu can help out here ?

QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 03:13 PM)
Actually i feel only oceon threat is abbadon and lilith
My negisf deck is without any oceon
Lilith can evade 5-6 times, killing 2 or 3 card
Abba starter can take out alm dom, but abba wont be able to kill 2
The one with giant slash - well donno the type - slash my odin twice also my odin still standing and kill him back
So i don think oceon 5 is so geng chao that without them we will lose kau kau
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Btw, i am looking for chao anubis - is fast thor paying too much for it?
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your deck if alot phy .. lilith will be the killer ..

but for now top elite , lilith usually kill 1 only , cox no chance to evace ..

other than march, morri and odin is phy ..the other 8 cards is ele caster .. hence no chance at all for your lilith to kill 2 ..

some even change morri to QS ele4 LS .. lagi no chance for u to move ..

QUOTE(FallenOut @ May 2 2013, 03:17 PM)
My Wife id end streak at 44 win
Time to get another Lilith but hmm
I think I try to rearrange the deck to the one who defeated superman
Btw
His fujin is alm?
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yes boss .. alm fujin .. and move 1st against my rb ace odin as starter ..

so sure is alm sonic fujin ... u know what ? i bought the alm sonic fujin from the same guy who whack my ass !

LOL ! now he no more alm sonic fujin as starter ...


QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 03:19 PM)
Mine ended at 43 - maniacal fail to ohko shinrru and fail to sd
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wow ... maniacal cant ohko damn shinryu ?

that's the gambling luck u need to pay for using maniacal ..

i think next time when i'm near 30 streak , 40 streak and 50 streak ...

i will remove all gambling card and insert pure muscle alm ...

like alm sonic dom , alm sonic fujin , alm sonic lamia , alm wise golbez ..

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post May 2 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 2 2013, 04:03 PM)
Ok my friend sort of found out a way on how the Agi works. But we need help to prove it. Yes, I am pointing this to supermac since he always do social fights analysis.

This is what we think. The algorithm is like a Agi basket. And each turn will take 2500 Agi point (*assume) in allowing ur guadian to make one move.

Now this is the case, if I am using an ALM Sonic S.Bird. My fs base agi is 5204 vs my opponent beserk behe (normal) with agi 2573.

So now my Agi basket is 5204 and my opponent Agi basket is 2573. Hence my S.bird will make the move 1st since my Agi basket is higher. When i make the frist move, my agi basket will reduce by 2.5K which become 2704 and assume my bird cannot kill that bold behe.

Then in order to make a 2nd move, they will compare the Agi basket again. My basket now have 2704 agi vs my oppoent 2573. Again, my Agi basket is higher. So i will make the 2nd move to kill that bold behe. So now my agi basket only left 204 and oppenent has 2573 + 3258 (RB Ace cagnazzo fs). So now my opponent will make the move first since my agi basket only have 204 points. And my bird got kill my cagnazzo... Now my agi basket is 204 points and my opponent has 3331 agi point (2573 + 3258 - 2500).

Then my 2nd card comes in Ace RB Domi with Agi 3608. So now we will compare the agi basket again, I have 3812 (3608 + 204) agi point and my oppenent have 3331. So I will get to move since my agi basket is higher. Then the calculation continue....

I am not sure if our understanding is accurate, but lets see if someone can prove this tongue.gif and find out the Agi point required for one move.

And what if both agi basket become 0 when both guardian cannot kill each other? I think each person will get one move until someone get kill.

supermac can you tell us more about ur lilith fight without +4 skill? Did she hit and evade, hit and evade until one card get kill?

This idea is like the old school game where u need to wait for ur agi bar to be fully filled before u can make a move.
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damn bro !!! damnnnnnnnnnn !!! you are goooooooooooood in maths and explaining stuff ...

is so easy to understand with your explanation compare to those info i search back including ATB bar etc .... big ZzZZzZZZZZ for me ...

okay now i know how agi works .... but need to determine the *agi require to move point .. this need some real experiment here ...

my 2nd ID got some problem hence can do social battle between 2 deck ...

and your maths also prove that , in previous monster colli . i always encounter alm behe vs alm bird .. alm bird always move twice against alm behe !

not always , but confirm will move twice if alm behe vs alm bird ...


i've taken pix of your maths explanation , incase i forget i can always refer back ! LOL ~
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yea lilith scratch then evade then scratch then evade then scratch then evade ... for 6-7 round untill mp depleted ..

i notice when lilith kena QS , then opponent phy4 some times can evade some times cant ,

if opponent direct cast phy4 without QS , lilith always evade ....

another senario is when lilith evade the 1st hit , he always evade the 2nd or 3rd untill she ko that guardian ... else she wont stop evade ..


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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 2 2013, 04:23 PM)
supermac
Hehe, we are not sure if this is really how it works. Thats why we need a social analysis like you smile.gif to find out more in details.

If we can prove this is how the agi/move algorithm work, then we should reconsidering all the Agi buff/debuff guardian whether to take away their buff/debuff.
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let's see who's free tonight .. i'll do a social battle as usual ... then i'll list out my guardian accordingly with agi .. and let say the opponent is fallen .. fallen will list out his deck arrangement and agi stats ..

buthen i need to type fast .. lolz to record down each movement each step ...

will try my best here ! let see tonight i can come out with something useful or not !

notworthy.gif thanks for all the maths and detail simple explanation ...
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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 2 2013, 04:36 PM)
No worries bro. Just trying to sort things out since I am looking for the same answer as well. Lets hope we all will find the answer soon. Hehe and now ur social fight will be more excited.

Oh, you can record the fight with ur second idevice tongue.gif then slow montion it hehehe.
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LOL that sounds fun !

i'll pick bro negisf deck , but he currently on holiday ~ so have to go for the one and only " FunnyTone " for non ocean battle + "FallenOut" for ocean battle !

i try use 2nd device to do video recording then share to youtube and post the link here XD
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QUOTE(negisf @ May 2 2013, 04:45 PM)
Just my suggestion, it's better to test if let's say Supermac deck is all fsemp max level. Where opponent's deck is all 1* or 2* (if can get same species same type better) + select those 1* that has lower agi, so we can close up the gap between each guardian.

Cause if we set the deck in this manner, we can tell more accurately what is the agi points required per action.
Let me illustrate,

Let's say Super 1st card is ALM Dom fesmp - agi 5200.
Then Negisf's 1st card is Banshee Lv1 - agi 600, obviously alm dom move first can kill first.
Then my 2nd banshee - agi 600, comes out again. Kena killed also.
Continue to 3rd banshee - agi 600, comes out kena killed too.
Finally, the forth Banshee comes out, get to move finally n scratch alm dom.

Then let x be the agi required per action,
so we can roughly estimate that x is,

2,400 < X > 1,800.

If this theory is correct,  after the forth banshee move and died,
subsequent banshee will all move n scratch the alm dom first before get killed,
cause the ALM Dom agi bar alrd kosong by now.
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another maths pro ! good idea ....

i will use my main ID battle all the main ID of all the bros ..

then use my 2nd ID battle bro negisf mention deck with similar 1* or 2*

then let see we can come out with what ! smile.gif

QUOTE(FallenOut @ May 2 2013, 04:50 PM)
i hate maths
i always hate maths
i failed at maths
I HATE MATHS
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LOL ~ same here , that's why i crack my head i also cannot figure out how agi works !

untill our bro here detail and simple explanation .. we understand the basics of Agi ! hahahahah

QUOTE(negisf @ May 2 2013, 04:51 PM)
Cause those perfectionist want to gauge battle better..

But i believe it's no use la in battle.
Cause u won't know what is your opponent cards until u battle them..
Even if u know what card, u don't know what type and exact stats.

I believe lar, if u really take down all your opponent cards every battle,
then swap your cards to match their weakness, that is more than enuf to dominate the battles
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yeap ... actually this theory is not determine winning chances in colli , just the curiosity on agi ~

we paying high bucks for high agi guards but sometimes his mood good he move twice , he not happy he dont move lolx ..

beh song lo .. if know edi then no need blame luck , is ownself tak pandai arrange lor ahhahaha ...


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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 05:06 PM)
@bro supermac - my current deck is without oceon too u can try it as non oceon deck

The lilith abba comment i gave is referring to opponent deck

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hahahah okok ... tonight have much GC homework to do ..

hope i'm free to do it smile.gif

QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 05:12 PM)
Bros, i remember reading that who moves first is based on ATB bar.. One move is 10,000 agi pt
So, say alm dom agi is 5,200 and opponent is sbird agi 4800
First round atb bar: our deck 5200 - opponent 4800
Second round alm dom will move after 4800 agi pt, opponent agi is 4800 +4800 = 9600
Alm dom kill sbird
Next opponent gilga come out
So now
Atb bar for alm dom is 0 and opponent is 9600
So after 400 agi pt, our atb bar is 400 and opponent is 10000 so ffv gilg move and kill alm dom
So now new card come out, atb bar is 400 and opponent atb bar is 0
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ya .. this is something i read too ... 10,000 point something like that

but after read it also dun understand what is it .. lolx ....

i need simpler explanation cox my maths is bad ..
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have u all see a card almost 8k HP ????

no leh ! this is a card i always dream to owned ...

noting but the "ALMIGHTY GOLD SLIME"

最強ゴールドスライム

http://www.guardiancrossx.com/jp/card.asp?code=152309


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QUOTE(Kitfox @ May 2 2013, 06:06 PM)
lilith is a must get for elite team... then followed by abaddon.. lilith can play hide and seek with odin/gilga ffv/marcho/SE physical like nobody's business.. my best evade so far was 4-5 times and b**** slapped 3 times... 3 times b**** slap can even kill a marcho i think..
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yup ... 100% hide and seek game for lilith to look for those phy attacker , if meet them 70-80% will evade ...

but if hide and seek fail and found a ele attacker , might still able to kill 1 then die lolz ..

and i noticed , when she evade the 1st hit following hit sure will evade and evade and evade untill that guardian die ...



QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 06:13 PM)
My explanation not simple ah? •_•
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simple ah ! only those crazy maths fomula shown on wiki is damn confusing ..

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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 07:24 PM)
Oh free apple you grow quite fast wor smile.gif
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every bro join our home here grow fast in GC i think ...

SE stop spamming new guardian and give us a guild system .. then we can form our own guild and do guild war !

we have many elite taikor here ...

the legend level --> MBR , JKleeJK , Negisf , FallenOut , FunnyBoss

the New Hero level --> KitFox , Uzura , JustaNovice , Tabs , Mcblade and many more !

the coach --> one and only "NightHeart"

the Bench Warmer --> Last Wolf
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Meet few of our LYN member in elite coliseum ..

the new LYN super elite player " Kitfox "

i think d very long .. in the end click your deck for battle lolz




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Then after Total win bonus ~ shoot my rank up abit and thx to Sifu JK tips on deck arrangement ...

i met Our Legendary " JkleeJK"

i quickly use Deft Step evade away this Sifu ! 3600+ dmg .. looks easy to beat ? touch it and bye bye !

1 Word " GG "

Rank S+ Top30 Elite player !




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QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:19 PM)
kind of agree. so far best 10 card for elite as for me:

1. Alm Wise Golbez
2. Alm Sonic Dom
3. Alm Sonic Specter/Alm Berserk Jugg (Jugg always has special place for deck arrangement)
4. AceR Lilith (best
5. AceR Abbadon
6. AceR Morrighan
7. AceR Marchosias
8. AceR Barbie
9. AceR Sphinx Empress (yes this card is back to adore!, she can tank elem att!)
0. AceR Odin

Above is latest Billboard chart after Lilith appearance! This is only my preference & so far S+ rank in elite. All folks almost

Bench:
1. AceR FFV Gilga (this card is the culprit lose battle, he is still too slow for my liking though he is fastest LSer)
2. AceR Siren (it is quite good, but coz it is unstable)
3. AceR Golbez (this is special special card can really counter elem att. it is a keeper)
4. AceR H-Nix (the revive rate is quite good, sometimes it is good for a change)
5. AceR Cagnazzo (same reason as Golbez)
6. Alm Sonic Lamia (still a good card, but coz got other card is faster now)
7. AceR Omega (still special card, coz it has v high HP & can tank elem att) >>>i didnt own 1 ...lol
***For now before new new ocean guardian is out, LSers is stone age. QS & DS rules! lol
Outdated folks
1. Nuada
2. Thor
3. Atlas
4. Alm Bold Behemoth
5. Alm Sonic S Bird
6. Alm Wise Xmas
7. Alm Sonic Shiva (quite a good card, decent speed & can tank elem att)
8. Alm Sonic Aspara

Potential impact card
1. Alm Sonic Fujin (my observation, can cincai pawn morrig, odin, alm golbez, got damn high HP)
2. Cthulu (i am still finding the buff disable full potential)
3. Poseidon/Ungur (havent experience & encounter much, not sure about it)
4. Alm Sonic Baha (still a very good card, coz can be either phy/elem att, also can tank both phy/elem att, if play correctly still can perform, that is y T. Calvin still use it)
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wahhhhh ~ thanks for the detail explanation !

with this info ... our bro here will have clear idea what to trade back for their deck in order to perform well in colli ..

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BTW i saw u in colli ... see above pic ..

i run far far away from u ...
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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 09:18 PM)
So whats the result? tongue.gif
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Lucky Home win for me .. i sweat to the max when battle him .. close close call .. LOL

QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:20 PM)
dun touch applejam, he is more dangerous than me  whistling.gif  me cincai can kaotim la...
i am lucky still can get 12wins at S+ rank, ended by no#1 spot ...ur buddy killerque ...my abba sap failed, his SD success...all haywire .. sweat.gif
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bro .. i'm still on this colli tix .. battle d the 1st u guy ...

along - Rank 31 - win

walker - Rank 57 - win

now left u , PeachJam , Xenoze ... dunno who to battle lolz .. any suggestion ?

buthen i will stay here for awhile cox tix now 1/5 ... wanna keep the streak going on .. so will wait till 5/5 only do colli again ..

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QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:36 PM)
me la! lol...or Xenoze...
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definitely not u ... no !!!!! cox your deck is super scary i know ..

later like the idonemeu .. u on 3rd card i edi at 6th card .. zzzz !

i rather gamble on Xenoze , i think he have juggy hope his juggy fail SD lolz ...

u battle xenoze before ? what starter he using ?
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QUOTE(mcblade @ May 2 2013, 09:32 PM)
edited. mata juling
sorry
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Acer SE u mean ele build or phys build?
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Wis build sphinx is so much better .. you no need to be afraid of lilith !

hahahahahah ~ lucky my sphinx last time when RB it i choose wis build !

now "han fan" no need buy a wis sphinx again ..

told u wis sphinx can tank ele hit + ele kill can ohko alm behe brows.gif

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QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:51 PM)
sure for now sphinx elem build is good. i can still change to elem att, although with att20 build, although weak but still can kill many card too. But i am not desperate now.
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sphinx is light type guardian , same as odin .. alot ppl using dark 4 . so will get block .. much higher chance to tank 1 hit and kill back .

if with wis20 , sure can tank even higher chance smile.gif

QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 09:51 PM)
I just now got raped by a deck that put maniacal as starter and spector as second card. These 2 took out my 4 cards
I tried that too and am getting 2 wins each coli tic
Can i post my arrangement for u guys to comment?
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i'm using this build as well ! ahhahahahahaha

sure put it up smile.gif

QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:52 PM)
dunno havent met him b4.
good news for u...so far those deck i lost only those under 4k+ att pow.
all above i won lol. so u know what i mean liao  icon_idea.gif
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i know .. means the lower the avg atk the more scarrier ...

look at your 3600+ avg attack .. means is super the dangerous deck ...

must avoid ..

so my opponent left Xenoze only ... hmmmm

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QUOTE(Kitfox @ May 2 2013, 10:16 PM)
wow i kena dapao when i went for dinner arr.. backstabber tongue.gif

my deck noob la, u can easily dapao..

hhmm, just a question jk bro.. ur decks seems no LSer? all QSer? is it better all QSer? i thot LS + QS combo is the best?

alm wise golbez? hhmm, but i thot best alms are sonic v spectre, sonic lamia, sonic dom, berserker juggy? alm wise golbez better tanker or alm bold behemoth?
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As for tanker ... i opt for alm golbez cox can tank ele and phy attack , while alm behe can only tank phy , nowdays elite full of ele attacker , if meet hnix also will die ...

QSer alone + flow disrupter is the current trend ....

not much ppl use LSer except morri and gilga .. gilga also very little use edi ...

flow disrupter is lilith , abba , siren etc ...

i met a famous elite deck ... have 6 QS from 1st position till 6th position .... lol i lose mad
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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 10:35 PM)
Ok my deck arrangement #1:
1) alm sonic dom
2) aceR odin
3) aceR ffv gilga
4) aceR barb
5) aceR nuada
6) sonic morri
7) aceR se
8) sonic v. Spector
9) aceR marcho
10) berserk maniacal jugg

Arrangement #2:
1) berserk maniacal jugg
2) sonic v spector
3) aceR odin
4) aceR nuada
5) aceR barb
6) sonic morri
7) aceR se
8) aceR ffv gilga
9) aceR marcho
10) sonic alm dom

Disclaimer: none of the above 5* actually belongs to me ;p

I feel the second arrangement did better at high rank - i am thinking to sub nuada put and put my old sbird with agi 4000 but risk to fail ohko certain 5*

Pls comment! smile.gif
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wow nice cards .. something can be made similar to mine ..

1. juggy
2. barb
3. marcho
4. gilga
5. morri - ele4
6. sphinx - ele4
7. siren
8. alm dom
9. odin
10. alm spec


QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 10:43 PM)
now...market not sure too me...best type ranking as following
sonic>>>wise>>>erotic>>>bold>>>others>>worst is berserk IMO.

So stalwart i think still decent card, though MP is less...but 7k+ still kaboom man!

So u can tempt seller ...depend on the seller if he has alm spec or not ...

FYI lilith appearance, it is specter era....my alm pow specter also can get me aceR march! lol..
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yea .. LSer era gone .. even my FF5 gilga is on the bench now ...



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