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post May 2 2013, 12:25 AM

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anyone know how to do maths on dmg ?

i wanna know alm sonic fujin , hp:5155 def:3121 .. if vs morri ..

can morri QS + LS kill him ?

morri atk 4223
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post May 2 2013, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 12:24 AM)
Is lvl60 clean
Just want to see how high value is this marcho
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value wise i long time no check cox i using her quite long d ..

sonic nuada or let's say nuada is being phasing out already , u dun see anyone using in elite ... cool baha long bb edi .. brave marcho just decent type ...

if u pair them all out , the value also lower than ace marcho for sure ..

rb ace marcho is worth RB it and stone it to use . stong QSer .. faster and more pain than sphinx
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post May 2 2013, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 12:31 AM)
Aiya ppl hijack the marcho with aceR kali + bold nuada fsemp + chao crocell

Sure my bid lose lahhh
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oh .. auction ah .. i never participate in auction before lolz ...
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post May 2 2013, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 12:36 AM)
Not auction is wts thread - the seller taking offers in pm smile.gif
Maybe i shld concentrate get rb good type instead of ace
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since u have borrowed muscle from bro negisf , maybe u can try trade up to good aces with your good type ..

i mean those that are going to be phase out good type .. so u have better chance in winning alm ..

alm then can be convert into good rb aces again ..
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post May 2 2013, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(Kitfox @ May 2 2013, 12:47 AM)
a bit risky.. like playing contra share.. hahaha...
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hahahaha .... true also ..

about the simple maths i posted few post ago .. bro u know how to count ma ?
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post May 2 2013, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(Kitfox @ May 2 2013, 12:56 AM)
no one teach me yet, i still have 0 idea on how the mathematical words for GC.. but my maths are pretty good tho, i just need a sample/template calculation someone else did before then i can calculate anytime from there
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but i also dun have the sample calculation .. i assume ..

(i)alm sonic fujin , hp:5155 def:3121

(ii) morri atk : 4223

morri QS + LS kill him ?


alm fujin vs morri ...

alm fujin kena QS --> morri QS atk-4223 - Fujin Def-3121/2 = 4223 - 1560 = 2663
--> QS dmg same as ls Dmg = 2663

--> alm fujin hp 5155 - 2663 (QS) + 2663 (LS) = negative 171 ...

so i think alm sonic fujin cannot tank morri QS + LS





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post May 2 2013, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ May 2 2013, 02:06 AM)
hai professor supermac. What subject are you teaching? I wanna enroll your class this semester. smile.gif
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big boss !!!! where have u been this few day !! secretly sending few elite troops to hunt alm mict ? brows.gif
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post May 2 2013, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ May 2 2013, 02:46 AM)
yea, im around hanging mostly in /k/. And its been so hard to put down CoC after so long playing GC. But its time to get back into the game I love the most. wub.gif
Yea, so my funnytone ign already play in Elite coli just now....minus any new guardians. sad.gif
Finished my social battles just now (won 9/10)... yea, I still got it!

Those new guardians does looks nice, and obviously almost every lyn members has got them. I think I'll slowly trade for them, but for now I need to rush coli some points for the greatest alm card eva! haha, no laa...its probably no better than an alm Domi, but still! Dem fast yo!

Oh, I'll be going back to KL this weekend for my voting rights. But won't be taking any bus I think. Straight drive from my home on Saturday. Hope KL wont be jammed this week. sweat.gif

Anyway, whats the story these days? I really missed a lot of pages. Did anyone got married?
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ahahahah you are lure back to by the Scary Mict with 35HP rclxms.gif

wow sapu all of use with your deck , too bad i have no more battle point to try your deck out !

i dunno why , after i insert the new ocean .. i feel my deck gone weaker >______<

i use to win 8-9/10 on social , but after insert the newly traded back ocean guard .. i think my deck is a mess and not smooth ..

headache doh.gif

and i keep banging on thick wall in elite .. 7 tix only manage to get 2 win 3 ... the rest all win 1 lose 2 of win 2 lose 1 ...





i don't recalled any bro here getting married , but i think they are mainly talking about lilith married to abbadon .. cox both of them are the hottest topic lately !


how are u doing in colli big boss ?
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post May 2 2013, 03:21 AM

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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ May 2 2013, 03:12 AM)
lol. still funny.
Im doing ok. Just finish my coli tix and some extra from inbox. Maybe tomorrow will get serious. So rusty laa.
I think for now I'll just sit back and see what you guys are thinking about the new cards. I was actually planning on getting a FFV gilgamesh to replace my Nuada, but seems like everyone hates him. laugh.gif

And why no love for V. Spec and Siren? I really feel like old timer still useing them in my deck. sad.gif

Oh, and I'm definitely looking forward to the new invitation cards. Later come down KL will borrow my sis's ipod and make some extra ID to get it. tongue.gif

dem, 3am edy? I got work tomorrow!
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same here bro ! i got work too .. left few hour of sleep only sad.gif

dunno why i feel new ocean not as good as expected after i used them for few days ~

abba can use as starter .. can beat alm dom , alm spec , morri , odin etc as starter ~ so quite useful .. he also can 1 sap take alm spec mp to 0 ..

and if your maniacal meet him , mp also kena botak ! lolz ....

lilith basically max kill 1 only after everyone going for ele attack !

i still love my siren + alm spec .. but i cannot afford to have too many death in my deck ..

alm sb + alm spec + siren -- > 3 death , 2 revive , 1 SD ... too unstable ..

hence i sub out alm sb to maniacal ..

replace my alm spec death4 with fire4 ..

so now 1 death , 2 SD , 1 revive , 1 ohko QS



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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ May 2 2013, 03:32 AM)
hmm, interesting thoughs.
We'll chat this over again tomorrow. smile.gif
G'nite mac!
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sure thing . good nite boss .. i'm hitting the bed now too
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post May 2 2013, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 2 2013, 08:30 AM)
Let me try to solve the math here tongue.gif

Sonic Fujin - HP 5155 Def 3121
can take physical demage = 5155 + (3121/2) + (3121/2)  --> 1st def is to absorb QS, 2nd def is to absorb LS
                                      = 5155 + 3121
                                      = 8276
Morri base ATK = 4223
Morri QS ATK = 4223 - 15% = 3589.55
Morri LS ATK = 4223 + 20% buff = 5067

Morri QS + LS ATK = 3589.55 + 5067
                            = 8656.55

Can morri QS + LS KO Alm Sonic Fujin?
Answer = 8656.55 - 8276
            = 380.55  --> yes Morri QS + LS can KO Alm Sonic Fujin

But depends if your morri LS work. So the LS success rate will take into consideration.

Note: My calculation above is based on Morri skill set with 20% ATK buff, QS and LS. If your morri dont have 20% buff, the answer will be NO.

Morri without 20% buff

Morri base ATK = 4223
Morri QS ATK = 4223 - 15% = 3589.55
Morri LS ATK = 4223

Morri QS + LS ATK = 3589.55 + 4223
                            = 7812.55

Can morri QS + LS KO Alm Sonic Fujin?
Answer = 7812.55 - 8276
            = -463.45 --> NO Morri QS + LS cannot KO Alm Sonic Fujin
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wow your calculation is amazingly detail !!! nice !!!!!!!! i fully understand ... thanks mate !!

with your detail maths and explanation ~ i will go trade back alm sonic fujin !

cox morri not at top flight 90% is with QS + phy4 + LS ... no atk+20 ..

i wanna get guardian with agi buff ! surprisingly i traded back a RB ace S.bird with agi+20 .. works quite good !

i always put it infront of a slow guardian like golbez .. most of the time my golbez get to move 1st ...

hence i wanna experiment more agi buff guardian !

QUOTE(FallenOut @ May 2 2013, 08:57 AM)
dam
dead win streak ended at 39
practically all death sd ls fails
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ouchhhh ... 1 more win for 40 streak .. that sucks ...

when all death + LS fail and ended your streak , wont u get pissed and remove death and insert ele4 ?

and i have another crazy idea , since LS for gilga sux , why not replace gilga LS with ele4 ..

making it atk+25 , phy4 , ele4 .. dual wield .. RB ace gilga got wis 3873 .. if critical can kill too with ele4

i bet lilith will cry when meet him .. even tanker like golbez or behe will faint .. XD

QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:17 AM)
good deal bro, alm wise xmas still good tanker & death4 kill, can h fire+4 somemore.
nuada will b phase v v soon. now i feel ffv gilga also useless!
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okay .. then i'll just pull the trigger if it's still available smile.gif

since nuada , thor , atlas like nothing much to do lately

QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:20 AM)
nope coz alm fujin move 2x! lol.
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hmmmm ... RB ace thor + RB ace atlas for alm sonic fujin .. expensive ?
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post May 2 2013, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(shiroikun @ May 2 2013, 09:51 AM)
wah sienz, 43 winning streak stop by Last Stand Last cards... zzz
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Lolz... at least u get 40 streak bonus right .. my 2nd ID + main ID both fail to get 40 streaks ...

QUOTE(jkleejk @ May 2 2013, 09:55 AM)
i wont sell it for these card IMO. no point keep it myself.
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hahaha i know i know , i'm not digging your alm fujin with this cards ..

i'm getting a offer from GCF for my chariot + atlas for his fujin ..

ok deal boss ?

QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 2 2013, 09:55 AM)
supermac
No worries smile.gif.

And surprisingly, now only i realized why gcx opt for ATK +20 for morri instead of +4 physical. Perhaps they build it to maximize the LS demage to get more out of it if she meet an opponent which is faster than her. But again, the base ATK is not enough to OHKO most of the tanker out there tongue.gif.

But like bro jkleejk mentioned, Sonic fujin will move twice. So morri dont stand a chance to hit fujin even LS kicks in.
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morri with QS + atk20 + LS is good as starter , her agi is consider low compare to other starter but her QS + LS can kill 1 guardian !

if u wanna slot her in other place , then u need QS + phy4 + LS .. cox QS + phy4 is enough to take down some of the elite guardian (non tanker of cox) ..

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QUOTE(Uzura @ May 2 2013, 10:07 AM)
can sifus enlighten me how's the agi calculate?
as for alm sonic domi, he definitely move 1st cause agi highest in the game atm, then if vs 2nd card, the 2nd card will move and ko my domi even 2nd card agi lower.

but i noticed sometimes my domi will move twice to kill the 2nd card too.
im just not sure how this agi calculate
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yea ! it's really very confusing .. i've read many many guide about ATB and agi system .. but i still can't fully understand how it works .

QUOTE(hulksmash @ May 2 2013, 10:13 AM)
Guys,
Since i posted my thread of Int Abaddon in GCF. Received a bunch of offers. Would seek some of your opinions:

1. Fast Cthulu + Chaotic Kali
2. Int Ungur + Chaotic Dom
3. Chaotic Poseidon
4. Powerful Lilith
5. Wise Crocell
6. AceR Succellus
7. Stalwart S Banshee
8. Powerful Shinryu + Powerful Siren + Chaotic Behemoth

I think the 1st option sounds good but in no hurry to trade.

Thanks
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cthulu i've face a few in elite but not much ppl using it .. elite is flooded with lilith + abba ..

for me i wont go for all the deal ..

cthulu price will drop fast from my experience if not much ppl in elite wanna use them ..

hence best is look for morri , siren , odin if u don't have them yet .
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QUOTE(negisf @ May 2 2013, 09:55 AM)
Nope.. Both my latest IGN is still 'underaged', 1 at lv6, another lv16.
So Can't play at Snow, dessert & ocean.
So no point buy coins.
I'm taking holidays from GC only ma..
Didn't say holiday from Forum.. Here with like a gc pub.
Where are gc bro hangs out. Wouldn't want to miss out too much in this forum. 
Bro.. Everything seems ok.
But I got something to add. If I'm not mistaken, scratch damage is the same as QS.
Meaning its 85% of Atk power/wis (after +buff).
Where QS damage is 85% of atk/wis before any buff or rebuff.
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bro .. if u didn't lend out all your goldie to the bro here ..

i think u can dominate special colli with your pure gold deck .. lolz !

Al Qaeda Lyn style !

make us proud !!

QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 2 2013, 10:14 AM)
Yeap, as far as I know QS is alway 85% (or minus 15%) off the base ATK stat without buff or being debuff smile.gif.

But as for scratch demage (LS) it should be same as base ATK Stat (100%) + buff and - debuff.

The only thing that I am not sure now is how they come out with the demage numbering at the bottom during a fight. Coz, if any wild guardian whack ur Aces, the damage is like only 1. Does that mean your def absord all the demage and only demage 1 to your HP?
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i also notice lower QS dmg guardian like hnix and sbird .. their QS bang alm behe also 1 dmg ..

means alm behe def absorb all the QS dmg
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QUOTE(hulksmash @ May 2 2013, 10:36 AM)
Thanks bro mac for advice.
Was hoping for Morri offer or SE but no one has offer these.
Siren and Odin being limited FFV : rare chance being offered smile.gif
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i think u can get good type siren or odin or gilga .. but if u dont mind gambling and wanna kill more , i'll opt for fast / sonic siren ..

give her agi/wis 10 instead of wis 20 .. she'll be the most loved card of your deck hahahaha ...

she's good in killing 2 , and i rate her death + revive rate higher than alm serenade ...
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QUOTE(cvshi515 @ May 2 2013, 10:46 AM)
Hahaha, sound like a birds banging onto a wall.

Beside, how much is it to trade for an Ace H-nix ya? The QS still good for us in master or vateran tongue.gif. Been thinking a lot on getting either fast or intel H-nix, but still want to see what it take to get an Ace H-Nix smile.gif.
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hahahah ya .. when sbird or hnix bang onto alm behe , they will see stars ..

but hnix with dark 4 will pawn alm behe !

i dunno the price wor for hnix .. i think after monster colli , market got quite a few AceR hnix out there ...

maybe u can try nego with with those trader and get to know the market price ?

RB ace Hnix is good untill elite A i think ..

QUOTE(animianacs @ May 2 2013, 10:46 AM)
cool fujin lvl 60 or brave behe lvl 34 worth more? O_O
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hmmmm ... tough question ...

but i think cool fujin lvl60 worth more for it's lvl and new alm cool fujin can use this as RB fodder ~ smile.gif
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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 10:49 AM)
Hihi bro supermac, how much do you think i have to pay for a fast morri max lvl fsemp? From below:
Fast shinryu, fast nuada, chaotic nuada, brave marcho
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hmmmm ... the below guardian of yours all max lvl and clean ?

morri starts to feel it's age d ... being the best card of the game for a long long time ...

wait new new ocean come out , she will lose her throne ..

maybe u can offer him fast shin + chao nuada bro .. it's a good offer already i think



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QUOTE(funnyTONE @ May 2 2013, 10:57 AM)
whoa...I barely understand half the things you guystalking about. Now I know how NightHeart feels like after a long hiatus. laugh.gif
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Lol ~ you just away for few day nia bro !

i'm glad SE release alm mictlan ~ because it lure u back to GC from CoC ahhahahahahah !! icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(justanovice @ May 2 2013, 11:03 AM)
Hehe some not max also. But clean tongue.gif
Morri is aging but well i always get grandma era 5* but is ok la
My ace raijin still levelling by the time he's level 70 i think nobody want him ald haha
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i've met a guy in GCF ... he is so rich he made a pure sonic deck without any RB ace ...

those sonic are good top cards .. vs good top elite deck with full RB aces .. RB aces lose bad LOLZ !

even being challange and without home advantage .. pure sonic win pure AceR ... zzzzzz

but morri is still 1 of the most unique skilled guards ! must get if u dont have 1 ..
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damn ... i think i over paid for a alm sonic fujin .. T_T

colli locked some more sad.gif

it's a expensive experiment .. if the alm sonic fujin in not good then i really wanna knock my head onto the wall ..

3:1 of my organ for it ..

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