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post Apr 15 2013, 03:25 PM, updated 13y ago

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Last case: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2766236&hl=

Problem:

- Car totally dead. I press the unlock button on the remote and no response. Have to manually cucuk key.
- Cucuk key into the start hole and no response. Radio not on. No lights, no indicator, nothing. Dead.
- Just changed the battery to a new one last week. Dry battery, RM160.
- Last time I drove my car was on Friday. Approx 3 days tak use car.


What should I do? icon_question.gif
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:27 PM

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Alternator rosak battery takde charge.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 03:27 PM)
Alternator rosak battery takde charge.
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How come the alternator can rosak?
What could be the reason?
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:28 PM

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spark plug rosak?

inb4, u need some1 to fetch?
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:29 PM

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post Apr 15 2013, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 03:28 PM)
spark plug rosak?

inb4, u need some1 to fetch?
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I went to service at Perodua last time belum sampai 6 months, changed the spark plug into the one they say can tahan lama. (they say la)

I need to send someone somewhere. And i want to buy food, damn hungry now.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:30 PM

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Kena con by the foreman. Got an depleted car battery.
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you too heavy liow, that's why. your car not larat to give you ride anymore rip sad.gif
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 03:27 PM)
Alternator rosak battery takde charge.
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seems like it
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:31 PM

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How come ur car rosak?
What could be the reason?

QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 03:28 PM)
How come the alternator can rosak?
What could be the reason?
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM

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drive too little. dint charge the battery enough.
just jump start.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM

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Maybe u no turn off light now totally dry
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 03:31 PM)
How come ur car rosak?
What could be the reason?
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I'm asking a serious question, I would appreciate it if you would give a serious answer instead of directly asking me questions in which I clearly do not know the answer.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM

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Beli le kereta baru, murah je Volkswagen sekarang.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:33 PM

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go charge the battery

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post Apr 15 2013, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 03:30 PM)
I went to service at Perodua last time belum sampai 6 months, changed the spark plug into the one they say can tahan lama. (they say la)

I need to send someone somewhere. And i want to buy food, damn hungry now.
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either alternator (u better pray not this) or spark plug or battery habis
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:33 PM

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alternator rosak la tu or u lupa tutp lampu
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 03:27 PM)
Alternator rosak battery takde charge.
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this. next try connect 18 energizer battery see radio got on onot
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM

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post Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM

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Alternator rosak
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM

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things rosak, no how come rosak kind of question.

told you alternator rosak u want more serious answer call mechanic to your house & confirm.

either that or jump start the car and drive to service center.

but if alternator rosak chances are you won't make it to the service center.

QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM)
I'm asking a serious question, I would appreciate it if you would give a serious answer instead of directly asking me questions in which I clearly do not know the answer.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM

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Wiring problem.... send to wireman for check up.... maybe got power draining problem.....
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM

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kereta baru ke?

either alternator kong or there is current leakage in the wiring...
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM

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pusing kunci no sound at all kah?
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM

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Alternator or your circuitry sudah 'sot plug'. Go accessories shop and let them fix for you.
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ECU rosak liao, Alternator rosak liao, IC rosak liao..jeng jeng jeng
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:36 PM

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kalau alternator rosak leh jump start lagi ke
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM

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same thing happen to me with my waja

try this:

1) put key in ignition
2) turn key halfway
3) pam pam the minyak, (accelerator pedal)
4) while pumping turn key to start car.

hope it helps

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power ranger rosak, kasi change to baja hitam then should be ok
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:38 PM

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alternator kaput..
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:39 PM

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Either the alternator, or the ground cable.

Happened to me once. Battery fully charged, then dead the next day. Turned out the mech didn't fix the cable to the body tight enough to allow the battery to be sufficiently charged.

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post Apr 15 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM)
drive too little. dint charge the battery enough.
just jump start.
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The battery is dry battery, the indicator shows 'green', if it needs recharge it will show 'gray', but now it's green.

QUOTE(KitZhai @ Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM)
Maybe u no turn off light now totally dry
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I turned off everything already.

QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 03:33 PM)
either alternator (u better pray not this) or spark plug or battery habis
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If alternator rosak what should I do?

QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM)
things rosak, no how come rosak kind of question.

told you alternator rosak u want more serious answer call mechanic to your house & confirm.

either that or jump start the car and drive to service center.

but if alternator rosak chances are you won't make it to the service center.
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I'm just simply asking what may contribute to its damage.
Because dah habis hayat kah, bad battery kah, etc.
If you don't know, just say don't know. There's no need to show off how much of a smartypants you think you are.

But alas, thanks for the advice.

QUOTE(axymax @ Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM)
kereta baru ke?

either alternator kong or there is current leakage in the wiring...
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Not yet 2 years.
What should I do?

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QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM)
pusing kunci no sound at all kah?
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No sound. No response. No lights. Nothing. Dead.

QUOTE(andrewcha @ Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM)
Alternator or your circuitry sudah 'sot plug'. Go accessories shop and let them fix for you.
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Go accessories shop how, I don't have other transport...
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:41 PM

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i got the same prob with u ts

my car wont start and the battery was ok

so need to tow my car to the workshop

turned out that my coil n some connector/wire got short-circuited

cost me almost rm700 to get it fixed

inb4 i got conned by the workshop
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:41 PM

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Can a fully charged battery deplete in 1 day just because the ground cable is not tightened?

QUOTE(Hari Seldon @ Apr 15 2013, 03:39 PM)
Either the alternator, or the ground cable.

Happened to me once. Battery fully charged, then dead the next day. Turned out the mech didn't fix the cable to the body tight enough to allow the battery to be sufficiently charged.
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 03:40 PM)
No sound. No response. No lights. Nothing. Dead.
Go accessories shop how, I don't have other transport...
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call tow truck.
or cari mechanic go your house.


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call tow truck la meng, unless you wanna push your car to the workshop
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2 possibilities,

1) Alternator kong redi

2) You got conned by foreman to buy old battery

Solution ? Call a established workshop lah. smile.gif
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find mechanic, bring a fully charge battery to your house.
change the battery, then drive to mechanic shop for check up.
during drive to shop don't on radio, aircond.

that's what I did before.
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QUOTE(arturn @ Apr 15 2013, 03:36 PM)
kalau alternator rosak leh jump start lagi ke
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To jumpstart or not to jumpstart
that is the question

QUOTE(hilmi muzzy @ Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM)
same thing happen to me with my waja

try this:

1) put key in ignition
2) turn key halfway
3) pam pam the minyak, (accelerator pedal)
4) while pumping turn key to start car.

hope it helps
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Thank you. smile.gif

QUOTE(Hari Seldon @ Apr 15 2013, 03:39 PM)
Either the alternator, or the ground cable.

Happened to me once. Battery fully charged, then dead the next day. Turned out the mech didn't fix the cable to the body tight enough to allow the battery to be sufficiently charged.
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How much the cost to fix all that?

QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 03:41 PM)
i got the same prob with u ts

my car wont start and the battery was ok

so need to tow my car to the workshop

turned out that my coil n some connector/wire got short-circuited

cost me almost rm700 to get it fixed

inb4 i got conned by the workshop
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Omg so expensive shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 15 2013, 03:42 PM)
call tow truck.
or cari mechanic go your house.
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oh no. This is gonna cost how much? cry.gif

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ur car is on strike becoz TS is too fat. Its time u start diet.
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 03:40 PM)
The battery is dry battery, the indicator shows 'green', if it needs recharge it will show 'gray', but now it's green.
I turned off everything already.
If alternator rosak what should I do?
I'm just simply asking what may contribute to its damage.
Because dah habis hayat kah, bad battery kah, etc.
If you don't know, just say don't know. There's no need to show off how much of a smartypants you think you are.

But alas, thanks for the advice.
Not yet 2 years.
What should I do?
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Advocado pointed out your alternator rosak and you still wanna call people a smartass? Do you even know what is alternator or not? And you expect people reply you why alternator rosak?? Call the foreman already. Nth you can do if is alternator rosak.
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check battery connections tight or not, many times mechanics forget to tighten properly then either battery flat or like yours cannot start
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 03:45 PM)
oh no. This is gonna cost how much? cry.gif
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tow truck around 100-300

depends on location

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post Apr 15 2013, 03:47 PM

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alternator kong...used to have this problem on my wira...4 days tak jalan....
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Oct 29 2012, 11:55 PM)
This is typical electronic problem. Plug in the key, step on the brake(do not release until the car starts), turn key to ACC(2 tick from OFF, 1 tick before kick start) wait for few seconds, move gear lever from P to D, from D back to P, then crank start. Few of my company FL got this problem when reverse parking forgot to put back P then off engine whistling.gif

When engine got cranking sound, meaning NOT starter problem. Its probably fuel cut off. I try to imitate the sound, you see whether you hear what I hear:

Wuekekeke vroom = start normally
Wuekekekekekekekekeke = no fuel supply
Wuekekekekekekekkekek.... kekeke(faster).... kekekekek(slower) = petrol over flow
Weeeeeeeeeeeeee = Timing belt putus(engine already gone, so as your wallet)
Tik tak tik tak = Starter relay sound, normally starter KO
Wuek... Bin Bin Bin Bin(car horn alarm) = Bateri weak
...............................(no sound no light no nothing) = Bateri kong, you probably left the headlamp on overnight

You can even start a car without engine oil rolleyes.gif Keep cranking lar tomorrow, good things will happen. Try not to step on the gas pedal yo. Remember to fiddle with the gear lever. Or you can wait until Plotong iDunCare cum and do the same thing for you geh. As long not timing belt putus, you're safe to crank until the bateri drain whistling.gif
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 03:40 PM)
The battery is dry battery, the indicator shows 'green', if it needs recharge it will show 'gray', but now it's green.
I turned off everything already.
If alternator rosak what should I do?
I'm just simply asking what may contribute to its damage.
Because dah habis hayat kah, bad battery kah, etc.
If you don't know, just say don't know. There's no need to show off how much of a smartypants you think you are.

But alas, thanks for the advice.
Not yet 2 years.
What should I do?
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This TS, my car experienced before (old proton), same thing like what barney said below, coil (mine got burned smoke came out zz, water boiling like mad), or spark plug (new but sometimes machines do falter[very weird], battery (fine? maybe the connector didn't wash so tak dapat electric fully) and lastly, alternator rosak(cant recharge your batt, due to air-cond leakage, engine unable to start, problem with air-cond, keep need putting water in your car) (have to change if rosak > costing from recon to ori few hundred [quite exp].

Get your car towed to one of the workshop if all else fail or get it restart by other cars, then drive ur way to through (not recommended), mak sure everything is locked and intact before you leave.

QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 03:41 PM)
i got the same prob with u ts

my car wont start and the battery was ok

so need to tow my car to the workshop

turned out that my coil n some connector/wire got short-circuited

cost me almost rm700 to get it fixed

inb4 i got conned by the workshop
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QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 15 2013, 03:47 PM)
tow truck around 100-300

depends on location
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Some insurance to provide free tow service. Which I use before. Responsive and fast. Do check if your insurance provide these service or not.
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QUOTE(ragu91 @ Apr 15 2013, 03:45 PM)
2 possibilities,

1) Alternator kong redi

2) You got conned by foreman to buy old battery

Solution ? Call a established workshop lah. smile.gif
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Do you have any recommandations for good workshops around KL?

QUOTE(axymax @ Apr 15 2013, 03:45 PM)
find mechanic, bring a fully charge battery to your house.
change the battery, then drive to mechanic shop for check up.
during drive to shop don't on radio, aircond.

that's what I did before.
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Thank you! I will try to find a full charge battery now.

QUOTE(Nub! @ Apr 15 2013, 03:46 PM)
Advocado pointed out your alternator rosak and you still wanna call people a smartass? Do you even know what is alternator or not? And you expect people reply you why alternator rosak?? Call the foreman already. Nth you can do if is alternator rosak.
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I asked a genuine question, did you see how he replied to me?
If he were to explain "Oh alternator can just rosak suddenly/it will just rosak after a while", I wouldn't be so butthurt.
It only take simple manners to explain something easy to someone that is genuinely looking for an answer.
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used ur insurance free towing service
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btw u check.ur batt wired? it night be loses
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where u live StationMonkey?

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QUOTE(Nub! @ Apr 15 2013, 03:49 PM)
Some insurance to provide free tow service. Which I use before. Responsive and fast. Do check if your insurance provide these service or not.
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alternator/ battery rosak can call insurance meh? hmm.gif hmm.gif

and i thought insurance punya always mahal >_<
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Call your insurance, they sometimes provide free towing up to 150km...
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immobilizer rosak
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QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 15 2013, 03:52 PM)
alternator/ battery rosak can call insurance meh? hmm.gif  hmm.gif

and i thought insurance punya always mahal >_<
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Your car break down no matter what reason they also will come. Best thing is you don't even need to pay for anything. They just provide free towing service. Not fixing your car.
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sound like fuse / wiring problem. A burned fuse give the same symptom too.
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 03:25 PM)
Last case: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2766236&hl=

Problem:

- Car totally dead. I press the unlock button on the remote and no response. Have to manually cucuk key.
- Cucuk key into the start hole and no response. Radio not on. No lights, no indicator, nothing. Dead.
- Just changed the battery to a new one last week. Dry battery, RM160.
- Last time I drove my car was on Friday. Approx 3 days tak use car.
What should I do?  icon_question.gif
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what car ur brand?
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did it work?

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probably the wiring(not grounded properly or short circuited). but either way the car battery is flat so first thing first jump the battery.
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QUOTE(Nub! @ Apr 15 2013, 03:54 PM)
Your car break down no matter what reason they also will come. Best thing is you don't even need to pay for anything. They just provide free towing service. Not fixing your car.
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tow to insurance punya bengkel or any place you want? hmm.gif
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if alternator rosak car won't start, even start will die off soon. unless it's those 70's datsuns.

another reason might be internal circuit burnt or broken, that one cost alot more than alternators & batteries.


QUOTE(axymax @ Apr 15 2013, 03:45 PM)
find mechanic, bring a fully charge battery to your house.
change the battery, then drive to mechanic shop for check up.
during drive to shop don't on radio, aircond.

that's what I did before.
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QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 15 2013, 03:57 PM)
tow to insurance punya bengkel or any place you want?  hmm.gif
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Any place you want but there's a lot on the distance. You have to check with your own insurance.
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Apr 15 2013, 03:47 PM)
check battery connections tight or not, many times mechanics forget to tighten properly then either battery flat or like yours cannot start
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It's tight.

QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 15 2013, 03:47 PM)
tow truck around 100-300

depends on location
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Oh dear

QUOTE(varialmctwist @ Apr 15 2013, 03:47 PM)
alternator kong...used to have this problem on my wira...4 days tak jalan....
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What did you do to overcome the problem?

QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 03:48 PM)
This TS, my car experienced before (old proton), same thing like what barney said below, coil (mine got burned smoke came out zz, water boiling like mad), or spark plug (new but sometimes machines do falter[very weird], battery (fine? maybe the connector didn't wash so tak dapat electric fully) and lastly, alternator rosak(cant recharge your batt, due to air-cond leakage, engine unable to start, problem with air-cond, keep need putting water in your car) (have to change if rosak > costing from recon to ori few hundred [quite exp].

Get your car towed to one of the workshop if all else fail or get it restart by other cars, then drive ur way to through (not recommended), mak sure everything is locked and intact before you leave.
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Thanks. I will keep your advice in the meantime. May I know, how much is the approximate cost for all these?

QUOTE(hdd-corrupted @ Apr 15 2013, 03:52 PM)
where u live StationMonkey?
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Around Wangsa Maju and neighboring areas.

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QUOTE(Nub! @ Apr 15 2013, 03:59 PM)
Any place you want but there's a lot on the distance. You have to check with your own insurance.
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QUOTE(vamsufer @ Apr 15 2013, 03:55 PM)
sound like fuse / wiring problem. A burned fuse give the same symptom too.
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QUOTE(kamfoo @ Apr 15 2013, 03:55 PM)
what car ur brand?
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QUOTE(hilmi muzzy @ Apr 15 2013, 03:55 PM)
did it work?
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QUOTE(alfiejr @ Apr 15 2013, 03:55 PM)
probably the wiring(not grounded properly or short circuited). but either way the car battery is flat so first thing first jump the battery.
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Jumpstart? But other people say don't jumpstart..
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ada kawen? i mean kawan? ask them come jump start for u
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:00 PM)
Around Wangsa Maju and neighboring areas.
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QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 04:02 PM)
tow pegi kedai je kak. tanya kat /k/ bukan boleh magically bagi kereta tu elok

kalau electronic yang rosak, mahal sikit dalam 500 - 1000 depends ape benda yang rosak
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1k ka... Habisla 6 bulan aku tak makan pas ni.

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i usually go to my pomen in gombak.
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jauhnya
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:00 PM)
Thanks. I will keep your advice in the meantime. May I know, how much is the approximate cost for all these?
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If Alternator:- Mine was recon (Rm300 inclusive of workmanship, not exp) Original cost around Rm500 to 700. U choose. Got warranty, recon only 3 months, ori got more.

Include tow depends on location and which type of tow, if your call small, should be those less than RM200 one.

If everything go for the lowest, below Rm500 I would say, I could be wrong. Ask someone to help you if you need.

Glad to be of help.
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:04 PM)
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:04 PM)
1k ka... Habisla 6 bulan aku tak makan pas ni.
jauhnya
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tu hari aku kena dalam 700

coil dah 300, pastu ada connector tu dalam 200, sparkplug pastu ape lagi ntah total dalam 700

kena kencing or not, i dont know
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:04 PM)
1k ka... Habisla 6 bulan aku tak makan pas ni.
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u havr.recond alternator as cheaper choice

i am using recond new one no give warranty one

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 04:05 PM)
If Alternator:- Mine was recon (Rm300 inclusive of workmanship, not exp) Original cost around Rm500 to 700. U choose. Got warranty, recon only 3 months, ori got more.

Include tow depends on location and which type of tow, if your call small, should be those less than RM200 one.

If everything go for the lowest, below Rm500 I would say, I could be wrong. Ask someone to help you if you need.

Glad to be of help.
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Your recon alternator lasts how long?


QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 04:07 PM)
tu hari aku kena dalam 700

coil dah 300, pastu ada connector tu dalam 200, sparkplug pastu ape lagi ntah total dalam 700

kena kencing or not, i dont know
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Sparkplug aku pakai tak sampai 6 months, perodua punya, kata dia tukar yang good quality last longer.
Nak be safe kna ada dalam 1k la untuk circuit.
takpelah aku tanya jiran aku workshop mana ok sikit.
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:13 PM)
Your recon alternator lasts how long?
Sparkplug aku pakai tak sampai 6 months, perodua punya, kata dia tukar yang good quality last longer.
Nak be safe kna ada dalam 1k la untuk circuit.
takpelah aku tanya jiran aku workshop mana ok sikit.
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The guy gave me 3 months warranty, now i used more than a year already =) guess its luck and condition of car.
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i am facing this oso,
my car kenot start, not even the alarm oso nothing,
no light no nothing, totally dead,

got fuel, battery got power, no banjir no kena water.

the simple answer are, "the master fuel rosak"
you need replace it, cost maybe rm10, but
if got towing the foreman will tarok you change oso battery
cost n this n tat maybe will up till 400rm.

try look at near battery or near fuel box for the master fuel.
use wayar to temporary connect it.


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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:13 PM)
Your recon alternator lasts how long?
Sparkplug aku pakai tak sampai 6 months, perodua punya, kata dia tukar yang good quality last longer.
Nak be safe kna ada dalam 1k la untuk circuit.
takpelah aku tanya jiran aku workshop mana ok sikit.
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pomen tu cakap kalau short circuit, component2 lain pun ada high percentage untuk tershort circuit jugak

ni mengikut pomen aku hari tu la, dont quote me on this pulak

goodluck, kalau tak nak kena kencing survey2 la harga kt berlainan workshop
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 04:16 PM)
The guy gave me 3 months warranty, now i used more than a year already =) guess its luck and condition of car.
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I see. thanks for the heads up!

QUOTE(TY-TY @ Apr 15 2013, 04:17 PM)
i am facing this oso,
my car kenot start, not even the alarm oso nothing,
no light no nothing, totally dead,

got fuel, battery got power, no banjir no kena water.

the simple answer are, "the master fuel rosak"
you need replace it, cost maybe rm10, but
if got towing the foreman will tarok you change oso battery
cost n this n tat maybe will up till 400rm.

try look at near battery or near fuel box for the master fuel.
use wayar to temporary connect it.
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Use wayar temporary connect what...?
I am dumb when it comes to car, takut i connect this wayar and that nanti kaboom!

QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 04:18 PM)
pomen tu cakap kalau short circuit, component2 lain pun ada high percentage untuk tershort circuit jugak

ni mengikut pomen aku hari tu la, dont quote me on this pulak

goodluck, kalau tak nak kena kencing survey2 la harga kt berlainan workshop
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tanya sekali kat /k/
takpela bro, tima kasih sebab kasi advice
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SM, why u no open this thread at FnF?
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:20 PM)
I see. thanks for the heads up!
Use wayar temporary connect what...?
I am dumb when it comes to car, takut i connect this wayar and that nanti kaboom!
aku tengah tanya2 member la ni
tanya sekali kat /k/
takpela bro, tima kasih sebab kasi advice
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takpe, dulu aku penah kena macam ni so aku faham perasaan kau

kalau ada member yang reti pasal kereta, bawak la dorang skali
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QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:22 PM)
SM, why u no open this thread at FnF?
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Better hurry and repair it if not shop close.and dont forget to update us on the problem ya.
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QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:22 PM)
SM, why u no open this thread at FnF?
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I x femes kat FnF, nanti slow response.
See in /k/ Less than an hour already 4 pages.

QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 04:23 PM)
takpe, dulu aku penah kena macam ni so aku faham perasaan kau

kalau ada member yang reti pasal kereta, bawak la dorang skali
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Ok ok. Aku dah call perodua, diorang kata diorang boleh repair. Tengok dulu nak bawak kereta ke sana camna.
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Alternator's the one charging your battery when your car's running. If your alternator's dead, it simply wouldn't charge your battery. Guess that's what happened to your previous battery as well.
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:24 PM)
I x femes kat FnF, nanti slow response.
See in /k/ Less than an hour already 4 pages.
Ok ok. Aku dah call perodua, diorang kata diorang boleh repair. Tengok dulu nak bawak kereta ke sana camna.
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I dunno want say TS bodo or what?
Ppl in FnF will give like almost immediate response la.

U bukak tered here K will think u Kuda only.
Just saying
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dulu tukar bateri buat sendiri ke? yg tu kot tak test alternator
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Diagnose what is the prob, & source your own parts, ask the pomen to pasang..this is usually i do n save a lot icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:25 PM)
Alternator's the one charging your battery when your car's running. If your alternator's dead, it simply wouldn't charge your battery. Guess that's what happened to your previous battery as well.
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That makes sense. But the dry battery indicator is still showing green color. I hope it's not circuit problem, or else mati la 1k flying away.

QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:26 PM)
I dunno want say TS bodo or what?
Ppl in FnF will give like almost immediate response la.

U bukak tered here K will think u Kuda only.
Just saying
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Can crank when you turn the switcht? If it doesnt,means battery flat. Get that settled first. If the car can crank then you can thinkof fuel, coil alternator etc. If manual you can try push start, if auto trans then have to jump start.
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Did read the whole tered but here's a few pointers ...
Alternator kong, wei ... anything also can kong one.
There is a leakage eg. Audio amp and such.
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 03:30 PM)
I went to service at Perodua last time belum sampai 6 months, changed the spark plug into the one they say can tahan lama. (they say la)

I need to send someone somewhere. And i want to buy food, damn hungry now.
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semalam dont want hungry.. if not i buy for u. skrng busy... if can maybe wednesday i free. cuba bertahan tahan yer.... buy for u on wednesday
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Seems easy.

1) Jump start the car. Get a jump start cable and wire your car to another car that is running (red to red, black to black)

2) Start the car

3) Let it run for a few minutes. Now disconnect the jump start cable.

4) Now disconnect the jump start cable let it idle for a good 30 mins. If the car dies, your alternator is dead. If it doesn't die, something in your car is eating up juice while it is turned off.
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maybe ur remote immobiliser need to change battery. i not sure if it built into ur remote. pls check tat. since u said u have to manually open the door..
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alternator rosak,jadi kereta guna kuasa bateri,bila kuasa bateri dah habis kereta dah tak boleh berfungsi.
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3 days tak pakai n cant start? Electrical Current leak leh...
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check ignition fuse bawah stering belah kanan... ada blow tak? ada blow kalu your ECU kaputz...
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alternator ko rosak la monyet, confirm. ganti alternator baru or 2nd dari halfcut, go n recharge ur newly bought bateri. pasni bleh jalan balik macam biasa. for now kalo nak jalan gak ko kene jump and matikan aircond/radio/electronics dlm kete. xleh pakai. mlm xleh jalan sbb kalo pasang lampu kete ko mati balik.
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if ECU rosak alarm radio etc should still work.

QUOTE(kuya @ Apr 15 2013, 05:00 PM)
check ignition fuse bawah stering belah kanan... ada blow tak? ada blow kalu your ECU kaputz...
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if alternator rosak how ECu gets it's power supply? Car can still run? if not enough current maybe still can but if kong i don't think so.

QUOTE(Orias @ Apr 15 2013, 05:03 PM)
alternator ko rosak la monyet, confirm. ganti alternator baru or 2nd dari halfcut, go n recharge ur newly bought bateri. pasni bleh jalan balik macam biasa. for now kalo nak jalan gak ko kene jump and matikan aircond/radio/electronics dlm kete. xleh pakai. mlm xleh jalan sbb kalo pasang lampu kete ko mati balik.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 05:06 PM)
if alternator rosak how ECu gets it's power supply? Car can still run? if not enough current maybe still can but if kong i don't think so.
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happened to me last time. my alternator rosak i just jumpstart n hantar pegi kedai kereta, no radio, a/c no nothing. tp kedai dekat je la around 2-3 km from my granny's house. lupe nak btau stationmonkey jgn jalan jauh2 just anta gi kedai je.
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Even if your battery is weak its kind of impossible for none of the electrical equipments is not working, at least you should still can switch on the the cabin's light or the radio. If I were you, I'll check if any of the fuses blown, also check cable line between the battery and fuse's box.
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ Apr 15 2013, 04:00 PM)
What did you do to overcome the problem?
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tow the kereta...change alternator..buy a new battery(drycell)...kaching rm400++

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 03:27 PM)
Alternator rosak battery takde charge.
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confirmed
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if alternator failing, when accelerate sure got cit cit cit mouse sound 1 rite?
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SM...what insurance your car use?

How many years has it been?
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QUOTE(Orias @ Apr 15 2013, 05:08 PM)
happened to me last time. my alternator rosak i just jumpstart n hantar pegi kedai kereta, no radio, a/c no nothing. tp kedai dekat je la around 2-3 km from my granny's house. lupe nak btau stationmonkey jgn jalan jauh2 just anta gi kedai je.
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I plan to go to the perodua service centre, they say they can repair, but hantar esok la.
for tonite i wait till my neighbor balik nak jumpstart/change bateri

QUOTE(arepit @ Apr 15 2013, 06:27 PM)
SM...what insurance your car use?

How many years has it been?
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not yet 2 years
not sure what insurance but my dad called perodua already, they say they can check and repair
just waiting tomorrow nak jumpstart or if kenot call tow truck esok
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check what insurance u use...normally the offer free tow service...you just need to call their auto assist..

i use etiqa takaful and they provide free tow service up until 50km to my prefered workshop...

inb4 i promote insurance bla bla bla


** ohya...viva how may years warranty? i think 2 years gak kan? so you still have chances to claim the warranty...

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QUOTE(smokey @ Apr 15 2013, 06:16 PM)
if alternator failing, when accelerate sure got cit cit cit mouse sound 1 rite?
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My car like this for few years liao. Sometimes when accelerate from 0 it will have like cit cit or basically, like metal grind metal sound. Few years = 3 or more. but no problem with cannot start and all.
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go to any car electrical shop.not the accesories want.legit electrical shop.ask whether there are discaj from battery when the car is not moving.sometimes the car is using up the battery when not in motion.hence ur battery kong when not moving.
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QUOTE(smokey @ Apr 15 2013, 06:16 PM)
if alternator failing, when accelerate sure got cit cit cit mouse sound 1 rite?
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not really...the cit cit sound can be the belting as well
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alamak tak dapat start lagi ke SM ? anyways godspeed. check for:

>battery charge: full or not, can bring the battery itself to workshop for checking
>starter
>alternator
>ignition coil
>distributor (spark plug related)
>spark plug
>immobilizer
>air intake for fuel (not sure if Viva have this, my car cant start if the air intake sensor not tight - plugged connection)

there's a sequence to follow, but i cant recall right now, apologies blush.gif
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any update?
just curious, what the problem is.

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