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SUSStationMonkey
post Apr 15 2013, 03:25 PM, updated 13y ago

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Last case: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2766236&hl=

Problem:

- Car totally dead. I press the unlock button on the remote and no response. Have to manually cucuk key.
- Cucuk key into the start hole and no response. Radio not on. No lights, no indicator, nothing. Dead.
- Just changed the battery to a new one last week. Dry battery, RM160.
- Last time I drove my car was on Friday. Approx 3 days tak use car.


What should I do? icon_question.gif
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 03:27 PM)
Alternator rosak battery takde charge.
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How come the alternator can rosak?
What could be the reason?
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 03:28 PM)
spark plug rosak?

inb4, u need some1 to fetch?
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I went to service at Perodua last time belum sampai 6 months, changed the spark plug into the one they say can tahan lama. (they say la)

I need to send someone somewhere. And i want to buy food, damn hungry now.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 03:31 PM)
How come ur car rosak?
What could be the reason?
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I'm asking a serious question, I would appreciate it if you would give a serious answer instead of directly asking me questions in which I clearly do not know the answer.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM)
drive too little. dint charge the battery enough.
just jump start.
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The battery is dry battery, the indicator shows 'green', if it needs recharge it will show 'gray', but now it's green.

QUOTE(KitZhai @ Apr 15 2013, 03:32 PM)
Maybe u no turn off light now totally dry
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I turned off everything already.

QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 03:33 PM)
either alternator (u better pray not this) or spark plug or battery habis
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If alternator rosak what should I do?

QUOTE(advocado @ Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM)
things rosak, no how come rosak kind of question.

told you alternator rosak u want more serious answer call mechanic to your house & confirm.

either that or jump start the car and drive to service center.

but if alternator rosak chances are you won't make it to the service center.
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I'm just simply asking what may contribute to its damage.
Because dah habis hayat kah, bad battery kah, etc.
If you don't know, just say don't know. There's no need to show off how much of a smartypants you think you are.

But alas, thanks for the advice.

QUOTE(axymax @ Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM)
kereta baru ke?

either alternator kong or there is current leakage in the wiring...
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Not yet 2 years.
What should I do?

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QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM)
pusing kunci no sound at all kah?
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No sound. No response. No lights. Nothing. Dead.

QUOTE(andrewcha @ Apr 15 2013, 03:34 PM)
Alternator or your circuitry sudah 'sot plug'. Go accessories shop and let them fix for you.
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Go accessories shop how, I don't have other transport...
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(arturn @ Apr 15 2013, 03:36 PM)
kalau alternator rosak leh jump start lagi ke
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To jumpstart or not to jumpstart
that is the question

QUOTE(hilmi muzzy @ Apr 15 2013, 03:37 PM)
same thing happen to me with my waja

try this:

1) put key in ignition
2) turn key halfway
3) pam pam the minyak, (accelerator pedal)
4) while pumping turn key to start car.

hope it helps
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Thank you. smile.gif

QUOTE(Hari Seldon @ Apr 15 2013, 03:39 PM)
Either the alternator, or the ground cable.

Happened to me once. Battery fully charged, then dead the next day. Turned out the mech didn't fix the cable to the body tight enough to allow the battery to be sufficiently charged.
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How much the cost to fix all that?

QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 03:41 PM)
i got the same prob with u ts

my car wont start and the battery was ok

so need to tow my car to the workshop

turned out that my coil n some connector/wire got short-circuited

cost me almost rm700 to get it fixed

inb4 i got conned by the workshop
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Omg so expensive shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif

QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 15 2013, 03:42 PM)
call tow truck.
or cari mechanic go your house.
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oh no. This is gonna cost how much? cry.gif

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post Apr 15 2013, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(ragu91 @ Apr 15 2013, 03:45 PM)
2 possibilities,

1) Alternator kong redi

2) You got conned by foreman to buy old battery

Solution ? Call a established workshop lah. smile.gif
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Do you have any recommandations for good workshops around KL?

QUOTE(axymax @ Apr 15 2013, 03:45 PM)
find mechanic, bring a fully charge battery to your house.
change the battery, then drive to mechanic shop for check up.
during drive to shop don't on radio, aircond.

that's what I did before.
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Thank you! I will try to find a full charge battery now.

QUOTE(Nub! @ Apr 15 2013, 03:46 PM)
Advocado pointed out your alternator rosak and you still wanna call people a smartass? Do you even know what is alternator or not? And you expect people reply you why alternator rosak?? Call the foreman already. Nth you can do if is alternator rosak.
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I asked a genuine question, did you see how he replied to me?
If he were to explain "Oh alternator can just rosak suddenly/it will just rosak after a while", I wouldn't be so butthurt.
It only take simple manners to explain something easy to someone that is genuinely looking for an answer.
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post Apr 15 2013, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Apr 15 2013, 03:47 PM)
check battery connections tight or not, many times mechanics forget to tighten properly then either battery flat or like yours cannot start
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It's tight.

QUOTE(CliffrisonJr. @ Apr 15 2013, 03:47 PM)
tow truck around 100-300

depends on location
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Oh dear

QUOTE(varialmctwist @ Apr 15 2013, 03:47 PM)
alternator kong...used to have this problem on my wira...4 days tak jalan....
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What did you do to overcome the problem?

QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 03:48 PM)
This TS, my car experienced before (old proton), same thing like what barney said below, coil (mine got burned smoke came out zz, water boiling like mad), or spark plug (new but sometimes machines do falter[very weird], battery (fine? maybe the connector didn't wash so tak dapat electric fully) and lastly, alternator rosak(cant recharge your batt, due to air-cond leakage, engine unable to start, problem with air-cond, keep need putting water in your car) (have to change if rosak > costing from recon to ori few hundred [quite exp].

Get your car towed to one of the workshop if all else fail or get it restart by other cars, then drive ur way to through (not recommended), mak sure everything is locked and intact before you leave.
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Thanks. I will keep your advice in the meantime. May I know, how much is the approximate cost for all these?

QUOTE(hdd-corrupted @ Apr 15 2013, 03:52 PM)
where u live StationMonkey?
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Around Wangsa Maju and neighboring areas.

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post Apr 15 2013, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(vamsufer @ Apr 15 2013, 03:55 PM)
sound like fuse / wiring problem. A burned fuse give the same symptom too.
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If fuse, what should I do?

QUOTE(kamfoo @ Apr 15 2013, 03:55 PM)
what car ur brand?
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Viva

QUOTE(hilmi muzzy @ Apr 15 2013, 03:55 PM)
did it work?
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Unfortunately, no. sad.gif

QUOTE(alfiejr @ Apr 15 2013, 03:55 PM)
probably the wiring(not grounded properly or short circuited). but either way the car battery is flat so first thing first jump the battery.
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Jumpstart? But other people say don't jumpstart..
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post Apr 15 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 04:02 PM)
tow pegi kedai je kak. tanya kat /k/ bukan boleh magically bagi kereta tu elok

kalau electronic yang rosak, mahal sikit dalam 500 - 1000 depends ape benda yang rosak
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1k ka... Habisla 6 bulan aku tak makan pas ni.

QUOTE(hdd-corrupted @ Apr 15 2013, 04:02 PM)
i usually go to my pomen in gombak.
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jauhnya
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post Apr 15 2013, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 04:05 PM)
If Alternator:- Mine was recon (Rm300 inclusive of workmanship, not exp) Original cost around Rm500 to 700. U choose. Got warranty, recon only 3 months, ori got more.

Include tow depends on location and which type of tow, if your call small, should be those less than RM200 one.

If everything go for the lowest, below Rm500 I would say, I could be wrong. Ask someone to help you if you need.

Glad to be of help.
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Your recon alternator lasts how long?


QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 04:07 PM)
tu hari aku kena dalam 700

coil dah 300, pastu ada connector tu dalam 200, sparkplug pastu ape lagi ntah total dalam 700

kena kencing or not, i dont know
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Sparkplug aku pakai tak sampai 6 months, perodua punya, kata dia tukar yang good quality last longer.
Nak be safe kna ada dalam 1k la untuk circuit.
takpelah aku tanya jiran aku workshop mana ok sikit.
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post Apr 15 2013, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Apr 15 2013, 04:16 PM)
The guy gave me 3 months warranty, now i used more than a year already =) guess its luck and condition of car.
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I see. thanks for the heads up!

QUOTE(TY-TY @ Apr 15 2013, 04:17 PM)
i am facing this oso,
my car kenot start, not even the alarm oso nothing,
no light no nothing, totally dead,

got fuel, battery got power, no banjir no kena water.

the simple answer are, "the master fuel rosak"
you need replace it, cost maybe rm10, but
if got towing the foreman will tarok you change oso battery
cost n this n tat maybe will up till 400rm.

try look at near battery or near fuel box for the master fuel.
use wayar to temporary connect it.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Use wayar temporary connect what...?
I am dumb when it comes to car, takut i connect this wayar and that nanti kaboom!

QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 04:18 PM)
pomen tu cakap kalau short circuit, component2 lain pun ada high percentage untuk tershort circuit jugak

ni mengikut pomen aku hari tu la, dont quote me on this pulak

goodluck, kalau tak nak kena kencing survey2 la harga kt berlainan workshop
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aku tengah tanya2 member la ni
tanya sekali kat /k/
takpela bro, tima kasih sebab kasi advice
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post Apr 15 2013, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:22 PM)
SM, why u no open this thread at FnF?
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I x femes kat FnF, nanti slow response.
See in /k/ Less than an hour already 4 pages.

QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Apr 15 2013, 04:23 PM)
takpe, dulu aku penah kena macam ni so aku faham perasaan kau

kalau ada member yang reti pasal kereta, bawak la dorang skali
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Ok ok. Aku dah call perodua, diorang kata diorang boleh repair. Tengok dulu nak bawak kereta ke sana camna.
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post Apr 15 2013, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Lucifer96 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:25 PM)
Alternator's the one charging your battery when your car's running. If your alternator's dead, it simply wouldn't charge your battery. Guess that's what happened to your previous battery as well.
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That makes sense. But the dry battery indicator is still showing green color. I hope it's not circuit problem, or else mati la 1k flying away.

QUOTE(zenox0123 @ Apr 15 2013, 04:26 PM)
I dunno want say TS bodo or what?
Ppl in FnF will give like almost immediate response la.

U bukak tered here K will think u Kuda only.
Just saying
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rcracer is correct, I am looking for a white knight to misuse
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post Apr 15 2013, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(Orias @ Apr 15 2013, 05:08 PM)
happened to me last time. my alternator rosak i just jumpstart n hantar pegi kedai kereta, no radio, a/c no nothing. tp kedai dekat je la around 2-3 km from my granny's house. lupe nak btau stationmonkey jgn jalan jauh2 just anta gi kedai je.
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I plan to go to the perodua service centre, they say they can repair, but hantar esok la.
for tonite i wait till my neighbor balik nak jumpstart/change bateri

QUOTE(arepit @ Apr 15 2013, 06:27 PM)
SM...what insurance your car use?

How many years has it been?
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not yet 2 years
not sure what insurance but my dad called perodua already, they say they can check and repair
just waiting tomorrow nak jumpstart or if kenot call tow truck esok

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