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TSjalmk
post Apr 10 2013, 02:01 PM, updated 13y ago

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Hi, am interested in getting Peugeot RCZ. Heard from a source close to Nasim (as claimed by the source itself), current RCZ were all sold out, next incoming batch could be the face lifted version and there could be an increase of price. Can anybody please verify whether this is the case?

I prefer the face of the original version, new one looks 'tame', although many commented it is more 'civilized'. If really the incoming RCZ is the face lifted version I will be very disappointed...

Anyway back to the topic, to all the existing and former RCZ owners, please can you drop me some comments, tell me your ownership experience, are you happy or regret of getting this car? What are the problems you facing / faced? I am particularly concern about the Peugeot's infamous "depollution" problem, is this happens on your car too?

Thank you in advance for all your comments.


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i think the facelift one looks better. it has the same "face" as the coming 208
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post Apr 10 2013, 02:42 PM

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To me it also looks similar to 508 and the face lifted 308, i guess this is the new design language of the Peugeot.
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QUOTE(jalmk @ Apr 10 2013, 02:01 PM)
What are the problems you facing / faced? I am particularly concern about the Peugeot's infamous "depollution" problem, is this happens on your car too?

Thank you in advance for all your comments.
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If I'm not mistaken, although RCZ THP200 (manual) are using more or less same engine, it does not suffer from depollution issues due improvements in the PCV hose (they added a cap instead)
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post Apr 12 2013, 10:41 AM

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get tt.
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Have you looked into Year 06 or 07 Cayman S/Boxster? brows.gif
Around that price range also
Alternatively:BMW E92 335I(06~08 years)
All fall inside your price range

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post Apr 12 2013, 11:46 PM

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get tt seriously lol.
better alternative
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post Apr 12 2013, 11:50 PM

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TS is asking for the feedbacks of the current owners, and of all the current posts, none are. sweat.gif shakehead.gif
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post Apr 13 2013, 02:24 AM

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my family owns one.

get tt
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post Apr 15 2013, 01:07 PM

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Hi guys thanks for the replies, and sorry for didn't mention earlier that I want a new car. This is my first time step into the sports car category so I would like to have full factory warranty for some peace of mind...so a new Audi, Porsche or BMW would be totally out of my budget.

Actually I quite like Peugeot and is owning a 308 for close to four years now, so far so good and very happy with it. IMHO the RCZ is a special car for Peugeot because it shows it is still able to produce a driver's car (admittedly still fall behind industry leaders), hopefully this is a stepping stone for the marque to develop a car that is capable to challenge the best and return back to the mainstream driver's car market.

bro azbro, about the added cap, is this also applicable to the the Auto version? This is the one that I am planning to buy. Thanks for the feedback too.

hi bro kahjye, would appreciate if you can elaborate more on your family's experience of owning this car, from your replies it seems you are not quite happy with it. Please let me know the reason. Thanks ya bro
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post Apr 15 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(jalmk @ Apr 15 2013, 01:07 PM)
Hi guys thanks for the replies, and sorry for didn't mention earlier that I want a new car. This is my first time step into the sports car category so I would like to have full factory warranty for some peace of mind...so a new Audi, Porsche or BMW would be totally out of my budget.

Actually I quite like Peugeot and is owning a 308 for close to four years now, so far so good and very happy with it. IMHO the RCZ is a special car for Peugeot because it shows it is still able to produce a driver's car (admittedly still fall behind industry leaders), hopefully this is a stepping stone for the marque to develop a car that is capable to challenge the best and return back to the mainstream driver's car market.

bro azbro, about the added cap, is this also applicable to the the Auto version? This is the one that I am planning to buy. Thanks for the feedback too.

hi bro kahjye, would appreciate if you can elaborate more on your family's experience of owning this car, from your replies it seems you are not quite happy with it. Please let me know the reason. Thanks ya bro
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TT is more powerful if u wanna vroom vroom haha.

RCZ is very EYE MAGNET.

looks damn FAT and SHORT in the street if u know what i mean.

very.."FIT"

what cought our attention is the 19" rim.

but downside is...uuhhhh....after 2 months my family own it , the side mirror rosak , the headlight masuk air doh.gif

then take go warranty riao.
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post Apr 15 2013, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(kahjye @ Apr 15 2013, 01:29 PM)
TT is more powerful if u wanna vroom vroom haha.

RCZ is very EYE MAGNET.

looks damn FAT and SHORT in the street if u know what i mean.

very.."FIT"

what cought our attention is the 19" rim.

but downside is...uuhhhh....after 2 months my family own it , the side mirror rosak , the headlight masuk air  doh.gif

then take go warranty riao.
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bro, sorry to hear about the problems, mind I ask a quite straight-forward question, do you or any of your family members regret buying the car?



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post Apr 15 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(jalmk @ Apr 15 2013, 03:18 PM)
bro, sorry to hear about the problems, mind I ask a quite straight-forward question, do you or any of your family members regret buying the car?
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as for my father , i dunno lol.

as for me , yes. because of black color.



should opt for white color instead doh.gif


but...cause that time was in dillemma with recond TT.

TT you get 2nd hand with 1 year warranty only.

and it is USED.

rcz 5 years warranty rite?

and TOTALLY NEW !

make up your mind smile.gif

that has what guided my family to get this car...but aiseh..i like white color more cause its more sporty.

we didnt get white cause long waiting list...cause my family get the first batch car...so opt for black instead...

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post Apr 15 2013, 07:44 PM

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I think you should wait for facelifted RCZ? Since you already own peugeot 308....you should know enough about peugeots...they share same engine, same chassis...except diff gearbox? btw I think realiability is subjective....depends on luck...some people are unlucky enough to get a very unreliable honda...remember the guy few years back bought new accord so frustrated with it launched a campaign "my honda tak guna"...while others say accord is damn reliable like other hondas....a lot of people complain peugeot is unreliable...but then my dad's friend using 508 is damn happy with his car...downgraded from 5 series....if u get a lemon...tough luck....if u r lucky enough to not get a lemon...congrats
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QUOTE(jalmk @ Apr 15 2013, 01:07 PM)
Hi guys thanks for the replies, and sorry for didn't mention earlier that I want a new car. This is my first time step into the sports car category so I would like to have full factory warranty for some peace of mind...so a new Audi, Porsche or BMW would be totally out of my budget.

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If you are looking for a sport car I don't think RCZ fits the bill. It is not really performance orientated. But it does look sporty I must admit. It is really a fun car more than a sport car.
A Renault Megane will be a much better option as a sports car. About the same price.

But if you like the looks and don't mind the performance listen to you heart.
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QUOTE(sekkee @ Apr 15 2013, 10:48 PM)
If you are looking for a sport car I don't think RCZ fits the bill. It is not really performance orientated. But it does look sporty I must admit. It is really a fun car more than a sport car.
A Renault Megane will be a much better option as a sports car. About the same price.

But if you like the looks and don't mind the performance listen to you heart.
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Alternative for that price range:
1.)Toyota GT86 or Subaru BRZ(240k or so,real sports car)
2.)Golf GTI
3.)Mazda 3 MPS
4.)Ford Focus ST
5.)Lotus Elise(Err very impractical)
Err i think that's it
All of those is more performance oriented than a RCZ can ever be

BTW used option is much more attractive
06-07 Cayman or Boxster S
06-08 335I

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my neighbour got one. he bought for his son but his son rather take the train than driving. ended up becoming a weekend car.

RCZ.... If comes with larger engine then good enough d.
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post Apr 16 2013, 01:54 PM

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bro kahjye>>

Yes Peugeot offers 5 years unlimited mileage warranty, very attractive for me I must say. I am surprise to know you have problem with the colour of the car, but I guess nobody can help you in this regard. doh.gif Side mirror and headlight problems although sound irritating but I believe it wasn't a major issue? Just send the car to SC, make some noise and get the problem fixed. What I am more concern and would like to know is the possibility of occurrence of major problems such as depollution error and etc...Again, thanks bro for your feedback.

bro chuakz>>

Agreed with your points. The purpose of this thread is to gather feedback from RCZ owners so we will know in general how reliable is the RCZ.

bro sekkee and OC4/3>>

I noticed that for the car enthusiasts like both you and others who are focusing more on sheer power and performance (correct me if you are not) RCZ is never your cup of tea. You are correct to point out that RCZ is not a sports car...to me it is a more balanced car in terms of design, built quality, functionality, performance and driving experience. This car could possibly attracts more common folks (like me) rather than enthusiasts, and this could be where Peugeot intended to position it (I stand corrected). There is another variant called RCZ-R coming, this is a more powerful and performance oriented car, hope it can really impress the car enthusiasts out there. Having said all these, I am a little surprise both of you never recommend a Scirocco to me, I believe this is the car that RCZ should have compared with.

bro winkiedilwy>>

I am not sure how your neighbour's son resorting to public transportation have anything to do with the power and performance of the RCZ...If this is the case then RCZ is definitely a very terrible daily commuter. Maybe other owners can shed some light on this topic. Anyhow, in my POV it is completely fine to treat the RCZ as a weekend car, I am planning to do this if I really get the car.


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personally the white with black rim is just plain sexy so i do feel what kahjye was referring to.

Second hand value seems to be holding well for a european - i did a random search on various website online and a 2011 unit is asking for 190k+ and personally i felt it was high for a 2 years old car. I myself would go for a GTI at this price despite dropping all my saliva over the RCZ.

For acceleration wise even a Golf Tsi / Jetta is faster so really no comparison shall be done on that aspect - if you are in for speed this is surely not a choice for you considering the price tag.
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QUOTE(jalmk @ Apr 16 2013, 01:54 PM)


bro sekkee and OC4/3>>

I noticed that for the car enthusiasts like both you and others who are focusing more on sheer power and performance (correct me if you are not) RCZ is never your cup of tea. You are correct to point out that RCZ is not a sports car...to me it is a more balanced car in terms of design, built quality, functionality, performance and driving experience. This car could possibly attracts more common folks (like me) rather than enthusiasts, and this could be where Peugeot intended to position it (I stand corrected). There is another variant called RCZ-R coming, this is a more powerful and performance oriented car, hope it can really impress the car enthusiasts out there. Having said all these, I am a little surprise both of you never recommend a Scirocco to me, I believe this is the car that RCZ should have compared with.


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Ehh Scirocco new car is kind of costly
Actually for your purpose,something like a Forte Koup can fit the bill just nice while costing less than half of the price of RCZ
You just want to cruise around in a sporty shape car than just get one that's cheap and does the job just fine
Personally,RCZ=cheating car
Look like MR design proportion but it's FF sweat.gif

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 16 2013, 02:01 PM)
personally the white with black rim is just plain sexy so i do feel what kahjye was referring to.

Second hand value seems to be holding well for a european - i did a random search on various website online and a 2011 unit is asking for 190k+ and personally i felt it was high for a 2 years old car. I myself would go for a GTI at this price despite dropping all my saliva over the RCZ.

For acceleration wise even a Golf Tsi / Jetta is faster so really no comparison shall be done on that aspect - if you are in for speed this is surely not a choice for you considering the price tag.
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but rcz sibeh sexy
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 16 2013, 02:01 PM)
personally the white with black rim is just plain sexy so i do feel what kahjye was referring to.

Second hand value seems to be holding well for a european - i did a random search on various website online and a 2011 unit is asking for 190k+ and personally i felt it was high for a 2 years old car. I myself would go for a GTI at this price despite dropping all my saliva over the RCZ.

For acceleration wise even a Golf Tsi / Jetta is faster so really no comparison shall be done on that aspect - if you are in for speed this is surely not a choice for you considering the price tag.
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My sister driving a Golf TSI and good friend Golf GTi, so I know very well how good is the Volkswagen (in a layman's perspective). Friend's GTi is a 'tuned' version and is much more powerful than the stock one, I still remember how I screamed when first test drove his car doing hard acceleration. No doubt Peugeot is no way near Volkswagen in terms of performance. I am more of a relax cruiser so speed is not my priority in choosing a car.

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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Apr 16 2013, 09:11 PM)
Ehh Scirocco new car is kind of costly
Actually for your purpose,something like a Forte Koup can fit the bill just nice while costing less than half of the price of RCZ
You just want to cruise around in a sporty shape car than just get one that's cheap and does the job just fine
Personally,RCZ=cheating car
Look like MR design proportion but it's FF sweat.gif
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bro... ... why you keep on stopping me to choose RCZ? icon_question.gif

I will still choose RCZ over Forte Koup simply becasue I like RCZ more. smile.gif
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QUOTE(kahjye @ Apr 17 2013, 12:17 AM)
+1.
but rcz sibeh sexy
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QUOTE(jalmk @ Apr 17 2013, 12:30 AM)
bro... ... why you keep on stopping me to choose RCZ?  icon_question.gif

I will still choose RCZ over Forte Koup simply becasue I like RCZ more.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(jalmk @ Apr 17 2013, 12:31 AM)
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Wan to buy RCZ?...Get the manual version Rocks...200 vs Auto 156hp

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QUOTE(azbro @ Apr 17 2013, 11:37 PM)
Wan to buy RCZ?...Get the manual version Rocks...200 vs Auto 156hp
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Ya manual much more fun with the extra torque!
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The drawback of the RCZ is the crazily expensive windscreen due to curved shape. One pebble and a crack and that's it.
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QUOTE(blinky @ Apr 18 2013, 10:36 AM)
The drawback of the RCZ is the crazily expensive windscreen due to curved shape. One pebble and a crack and that's it.
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You can always buy windscreen insurance rite?
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bro azbro and SKYjack >>

paiseh, not familiar with manual transmission coz seldom drive one...but if looking at the price difference between Auto and Manual is so small, it will be a good idea to upgrade to Manual for the extra torque. Furthermore this will be my weekend car (if I really get it), so can slowly adapt to the manual transmission.

bro blinky and k!nex >>

To be honest the double bubble roof spare part cost is one of my main concerns, not sure whether insurance company willing to cover it? bro kahjye mind ask whether your RCZ's one covered? Worse comes to worst, I will allocate a contingency sum twice my 308's from my budget to cover this additional cost.


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Guys, share with you a test drive review from Danny Tan of the Paultan.org >>

http://paultan.org/2010/05/24/peugeot-rcz-...ort-from-spain/

He gave RCZ quite a good feedback in the driving department and described it as "non-hardcore satisfaction". Truth be told this "non-hardcore satisfaction" is exactly what I am expecting from the RCZ, hope it will not disappoint me.


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car is good car but is still peugeot quality lah, they are not known for extremely well built cars in europe also
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Apr 18 2013, 01:49 PM)
car is good car but is still peugeot quality lah, they are not known for extremely well built cars in europe also
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bro, mind explain what is your understanding of the 'Peugeot quality'? To you it is good or bad? And when you say it is good / bad what is the car brand that you are comparing with? Proton, Perodua, Toyota, Honda, Ford, Volkswagen, Audi, BMW or Benz? I believe most will agree Peugeot quality is better than Proton? I had driven quite a lot of Toyota and Honda in my oversea's trips but IMHO 308 is still better than them (no offense intended to the T & H owners here). And most will agree Audi, BMW and Benz are better but one will have to pay much higher price. And one more thing I am quite sure here, no one will be expecting a "extremely" well built car when buying a Peugeot.
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QUOTE(jalmk @ Apr 18 2013, 04:59 PM)
bro, mind explain what is your understanding of the 'Peugeot quality'? To you it is good or bad? And when you say it is good / bad what is the car brand that you are comparing with? Proton, Perodua, Toyota, Honda, Ford, Volkswagen, Audi, BMW or Benz? I believe most will agree Peugeot quality is better than Proton? I had driven quite a lot of Toyota and Honda in my oversea's trips but IMHO 308 is still better than them (no offense intended to the T & H owners here). And most will agree Audi, BMW and Benz are better but one will have to pay much higher price. And one more thing I am quite sure here, no one will be expecting a "extremely" well built car when buying a Peugeot.
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prone to small small things here and there like squeaks and rattles that wont go away no matter what, knocking sounds here and there. which after a while get tiring.

but the quality of plastics are good
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QUOTE(rcracer @ Apr 19 2013, 07:53 AM)
prone to small small things here and there like squeaks and rattles that wont go away no matter what, knocking sounds here and there. which after a while get tiring.

but the quality of plastics are good
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as a 308 owner, I concur with your opinion.
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get the manual version one, is much more fun and power compare to the auto version. the quality of rcz is as good as volkswagen.
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Volkswagen quality good meh? Look at their lousy DSG gearbox reliability.
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QUOTE(gunsnroses @ Apr 19 2013, 11:41 AM)
Volkswagen quality good meh? Look at their lousy DSG gearbox reliability.
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I think the DSG gearbox issue, like you rightly pointed out, is just a reliability issue. All if not most car manufacturers have more or less some reliability issues, I think it is normal, even Peugeot has its own depollution error issue...

It is a known fact that generally Volkswagen's built quality is good.
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These continental cars will develop some creaks and rattles over time, I dont know how the Japanese ones (especially Toyota) has a rattle free cabin.

My family's vw and peugeot both has creaks, rattles and squeaks since the first week of owning it
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u gotta be kidding me that Toyota cabin is rattle free.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 19 2013, 05:01 PM)
These continental cars will develop some creaks and rattles over time, I dont know how the Japanese ones (especially Toyota) has a rattle free cabin.

My family's vw and peugeot both has creaks, rattles and squeaks since the first week of owning it
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my 3-1/2 years old 308 and sister's 1 year old Golf so far so good, don't have any annoying sound, maybe you were just unlucky. but you are right, I did hear some similar complaints from 308 owners, like bro victor_hoh of this thread. Some said Malaysia's hot and humid tropical climate not suitable for continental cars hence the squeaks and rattles.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Apr 19 2013, 05:59 PM)
u gotta be kidding me that Toyota cabin is rattle free.
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My family's Innova is rattle-free, seriously, its already 8 years now, still no signs of rattle, just that it had an accident last month, still in the workshop, chassis affected
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 20 2013, 08:24 PM)
My family's Innova is rattle-free, seriously, its already 8 years now, still no signs of rattle, just that it had an accident last month, still in the workshop, chassis affected
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Older Toyotas seems to fare better. The old Vios at home, 7 years old now, is still rattle free except on very bumpy roads.

But the dugong....yea it rattles.

Just goes to show once more, when it comes to sushi cars, older is better.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Apr 19 2013, 05:01 PM)
These continental cars will develop some creaks and rattles over time, I dont know how the Japanese ones (especially Toyota) has a rattle free cabin.

My family's vw and peugeot both has creaks, rattles and squeaks since the first week of owning it
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u sure ah? Mine 4yrs+ a lot of noise.. maybe im using adjustable. cool.gif
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Apr 20 2013, 08:47 PM)
u sure ah? Mine 4yrs+ a lot of noise.. maybe im using adjustable.  cool.gif
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u change back everything stock + service at SC sure no problem one, 160k KM travelled and still sending to Toyota SC for service...
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A close encounter with the upcoming new RCZ Facelift. A price boost to cost RM30k more than its predecessor. Still worth it, you think?

http://www.kensomuse.com/spotted-the-new-rcz-facelift/
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QUOTE(kenso77 @ Jul 17 2013, 11:02 PM)
A close encounter with the upcoming new RCZ Facelift. A price boost to cost RM30k more than its predecessor. Still worth it, you think?

http://www.kensomuse.com/spotted-the-new-rcz-facelift/
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The introduction of the face lift and price hike is "half" expected, but still the extent of the hike is IMHO a little bit too big and hardly justifiable. Still I like pre face lift version, the reason, apart from the design, is this is the very version that showcases Peugeot's seriousness in returning to the mainstream performance car market (I know many here would not agree with the “performance” part) which they had seem to abandoned for the last two decades. So the first version of the series will carry more meaning and provides some sort of added value to me.

Too bad seems used car market is the only place I can get the original version now. A question to all the sifus, will the second hand price of the original version drop with the introduction of the face lift?

Peugeot has officially reported to proceed with the production of their concept RCZ-R, this limited version RCZ has a modified and redeveloped 1.6 liter Prince Engine with increased power output 270hp, 330Nm torque and sprints from 0 to 100km/h in just 5.9 seconds (official figure from Peugeot), this makes the R version a real powerful car, couple with the original attractive appearance I think it is safe to say that the R is a ‘complete’ RCZ that many are probably looking and waiting for. Not sure whether it will make its way into Malaysia and how much Nasim is going to price it though.


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QUOTE(jalmk @ Jul 21 2013, 03:23 PM)
The introduction of the face lift and price hike is "half" expected, but still the extent of the hike is IMHO a little bit too big and hardly justifiable. Still I like pre face lift version, the reason, apart from the design, is this is the very version that showcases Peugeot's seriousness in returning to the mainstream performance car market (I know many here would not agree with the “performance” part) which they had seem to abandoned for the last two decades. So the first version of the series will carry more meaning and provides some sort of added value to me. 

Too bad seems used car market is the only place I can get the original version now. A question to all the sifus, will the second hand price of the original version drop with the introduction of the face lift?

Peugeot has officially reported to proceed with the production of their concept RCZ-R, this limited version RCZ has a modified and redeveloped 1.6 liter Prince Engine with increased power output 270hp, 330Nm torque and sprints from 0 to 100km/h in just 5.9 seconds (official figure from Peugeot), this makes the R version a real powerful car, couple with the original attractive appearance I think it is safe to say that the R is a ‘complete’ RCZ that many are probably looking and waiting for. Not sure whether it will make its way into Malaysia and how much Nasim is going to price it though.
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yes, the bread and butter facelift is a little highly priced even if it comes with the much more reliable m engine from the chinese engineered 408. hmmm, see the irony? wink.gif

but the r won't be cheap even if it comes. please expect it to surpass the prices of some of the usual competitors. those that malaysians usually hold higher regard of. and please don't say the peugeot should be cheaper simply because it is a peugeot. the r is a pretty special peugeot and it should be viewed and treated as such.

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Peugeot has officially reported to proceed with the production of their concept RCZ-R, this limited version RCZ has a modified and redeveloped 1.6 liter Prince Engine with increased power output 270hp, 330Nm torque and sprints from 0 to 100km/h in just 5.9 seconds (official figure from Peugeot), this makes the R version a real powerful car, couple with the original attractive appearance I think it is safe to say that the R is a ‘complete’ RCZ that many are probably looking and waiting for. Not sure whether it will make its way into Malaysia and how much Nasim is going to price it though.
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but the r won't be cheap even if it comes. please expect it to surpass the prices of some of the usual competitors. those that malaysians usually hold higher regard of. and please don't say the peugeot should be cheaper simply because it is a peugeot. the r is a pretty special peugeot and it should be viewed and treated as such.
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270HP & 330NM? Now that makes it far more interesting! As for the price, just wait for 2nd hand ones, knowing France brands, the RV should drop like a stone.
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someone will surely come into this thread and claim

VIOSTRD > RCZ

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 21 2013, 06:34 PM)
yes, the bread and butter facelift is a little highly priced even if it comes with the much more reliable m engine from the chinese engineered 408. hmmm, see the irony? wink.gif

but the r won't be cheap even if it comes. please expect it to surpass the prices of some of the usual competitors. those that malaysians usually hold higher regard of. and please don't say the peugeot should be cheaper simply because it is a peugeot. the r is a pretty special peugeot and it should be viewed and treated as such.
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Honestly bro I didn't know whether the earlier RCZ suffered the 'depollution' error but if the m engine is more reliable and could reduce the occurrence of the error then maybe worth the price increase I guess...

I agree with you that R is a special Peugeot, and like you I know many people actually look down at Peugeot but let's just give credit where it is due shall we? According to some auto blogs, the R boots a power-per-liter-basis at 160 hp/liter which is higher than Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse and Super Sport (10hp/liter lesser) and Ferrari 458 Italia. I think maybe this is a record for the 1.6 liter engine category and currently the highest in its class.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1084698...forbidden-fruit

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/289861/p..._and_specs.html

Detractor might say this is just marketing gimmick.

We just can't please everybody.

So take it easy bro smile.gif

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jul 21 2013, 08:41 PM)
270HP & 330NM? Now that makes it far more interesting! As for the price, just wait for 2nd hand ones, knowing France brands, the RV should drop like a stone.
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Not sure whether Nasim will bring it in, but if it really does, looking at the current face lift version selling at 240k where do you think Nasim will place this model? Rumour has it that the R version will be selling at around 10k GBP higher than the normal version (cheapest variant) in the UK, which if we convert directly into RM then the price could easily exceeds 300k, reaching the territory of a brand new Audi TT (350k)... Which one do you think Malaysian will buy, between a Audi and a Peugeot?


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QUOTE(jalmk @ Jul 22 2013, 12:36 AM)
Not sure whether Nasim will bring it in, but if it really does, looking at the current face lift version selling at 240k where do you think Nasim will place this model? Rumour has it that the R version will be selling at around 10k GBP higher than the normal version (cheapest variant) in the UK, which if we convert directly into RM then the price could easily exceeds 300k, reaching the territory of a brand new Audi TT (350k)... Which one do you think Malaysian will buy, between a Audi and a Peugeot?
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true. it is a 'malaysian face thing'. lot's of recond tts and scirocco and golf around anyway on the (relatively) cheap these days. even if they bring the r in, i guess the numbers will be small. hopefully enough numbers for the aftersales to consider keeping stock of some bespoke parts for the car.

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 22 2013, 11:26 PM)
true. it is a 'malaysian face thing'. lot's of recond tts and scirocco and golf around anyway on the (relatively) cheap these days. even if they bring the r in, i guess the numbers will be small. hopefully enough numbers for the aftersales to consider keeping stock of some bespoke parts for the car.
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Honestly bro I am in a dilemma on whether to wait for the R or get a used original version. If the R is anything higher than 300k I believe I won't proceed to buy it. I will just wait and see what happens next.
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QUOTE(jalmk @ Jul 26 2013, 04:47 PM)
Honestly bro I am in a dilemma on whether to wait for the R or get a used original version. If the R is anything higher than 300k I believe I won't proceed to buy it. I will just wait and see what happens next.
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i agree with you, rm300k and above may be a little too far to stretch for the car. but what are the competitors offering the same statistics? 270hp, 330nm. let's not compare pedigrees as some would like to do and look hp for hp and nm for nm to see where the other competitors are priced.
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QUOTE(lowpro @ Jul 27 2013, 06:29 PM)
i agree with you, rm300k and above may be a little too far to stretch for the car. but what are the competitors offering the same statistics? 270hp, 330nm. let's not compare pedigrees as some would like to do and look hp for hp and nm for nm to see where the other competitors are priced.
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Yes exactly, 300k over for a car is just too much…Personally I would not go for any car priced over 200k, for me this is just not right (no offense intended to the people who own 200k over cars), I was initially struggled with the RCZ too but it finally beats me with the ‘meaning’ and ‘added value’ that I mentioned earlier, but still 300k is already over the limits that I could tolerate...At the moment I think I will just wait and see what happens next, I believe in the time of a year or two we will have a clearer picture of the R’s entry into Malaysia and the selling price.

By the way, this is a comparison of specific power output and specific torque between R and its potential competitors which are already on sales here (Malaysian spec.)

Liter Power, HP Torque, Nm Specific Power, HP/L Specific Torque, Nm/L Selling Price (RM)

RCZ R 1.6 270 330 169 206 Unknown
Scirocco R 2.0 255 330 128 165 281,060
Megane RS 265 2.0 265 360 133 180 235,000

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QUOTE(jalmk @ Jul 28 2013, 02:30 PM)
Yes exactly, 300k over for a car is just too much…Personally I would not go for any car priced over 200k, for me this is just not right (no offense intended to the people who own 200k over cars), I was initially struggled with the RCZ too but it finally beats me with the ‘meaning’ and ‘added value’ that I mentioned earlier, but still 300k is already over the limits that I could tolerate...At the moment I think I will just wait and see what happens next, I believe in the time of a year or two we will have a clearer picture of the R’s entry into Malaysia and the selling price.

By the way, this is a comparison of specific power output and specific torque between R and its potential competitors which are already on sales here (Malaysian spec.)

                Liter  Power, HP    Torque, Nm Specific Power, HP/L Specific Torque, Nm/L    Selling Price (RM)

RCZ R          1.6      270        330                    169                      206                    Unknown
Scirocco R          2.0        255        330                    128                      165                    281,060
Megane RS 265  2.0      265        360                    133                      180                    235,000
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interesting. it's punching almost like a force fed 2.0. hard to place the guesstimate pricing as the current facelift also has gone up quite a bit already meaning the r could slot in somewhere between the scirocco r and the megane.

whatever the price, it is still one heck of a desirable car!
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car is good car but is still peugeot quality lah, they are not known for extremely well built cars in europe also
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The company manufactured all of original BMW X3s (model code E83), the Aston Martin Rapide and developed several cars on behalf of manufacturers such as the Audi TT, Fiat Bravo and Peugeot RCZ.
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Why u bump 3 years back thread..
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Why u bump 3 years back thread..
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someone will surely come into this thread and claim

VIOSTRD > RCZ

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RCZ sucks.

nuff said.


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RCZ sucks.

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yup

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These continental cars will develop some creaks and rattles over time, I dont know how the Japanese ones (especially Toyota) has a rattle free cabin.

My family's vw and peugeot both has creaks, rattles and squeaks since the first week of owning it
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My 8 year old smart forfour and 3 year old Peugeot 3008 all have creaking sound after 3-5 years of ownership. Must be due to our hot weather. Bad for imported plastics.
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Anyone still owning or driving RCZ so far? I plan get 2nd hand one. Any comment about the car and maintainance? Sorry don't know well about Peugeot car.
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Anyone still owning or driving RCZ so far? I plan get 2nd hand one. Any comment about the car and maintainance? Sorry don't know well about Peugeot car.
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Do read through this thread

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3795042&hl=

Can judge whether its worth maintaining or not

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Anyone still owning or driving RCZ so far? I plan get 2nd hand one. Any comment about the car and maintainance? Sorry don't know well about Peugeot car.
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good pricing right now for 5 year old car ....
one day when i ready i will go for one smile.gif 6SP manual
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Am planning to grab secondhand for my daughter from her present civic, is RCZ gud option pls??
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Am planning to grab secondhand for my daughter from her present civic, is RCZ gud option pls??
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go for RCZ, if you want to show off.. haha..


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good pricing right now for 5 year old car ....
one day when i ready i will go for one smile.gif 6SP manual
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yah, car price is cheap, but maintenance fee will be same as car price too...

 

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