Hi, am interested in getting Peugeot RCZ. Heard from a source close to Nasim (as claimed by the source itself), current RCZ were all sold out, next incoming batch could be the face lifted version and there could be an increase of price. Can anybody please verify whether this is the case?

I prefer the face of the original version, new one looks 'tame', although many commented it is more 'civilized'. If really the incoming RCZ is the face lifted version I will be very disappointed...

Anyway back to the topic, to all the existing and former RCZ owners, please can you drop me some comments, tell me your ownership experience, are you happy or regret of getting this car? What are the problems you facing / faced? I am particularly concern about the Peugeot's infamous "depollution" problem, is this happens on your car too?

Thank you in advance for all your comments.

To me it also looks similar to 508 and the face lifted 308, i guess this is the new design language of the Peugeot.

Hi guys thanks for the replies, and sorry for didn't mention earlier that I want a new car. This is my first time step into the sports car category so I would like to have full factory warranty for some peace of mind...so a new Audi, Porsche or BMW would be totally out of my budget.

Actually I quite like Peugeot and is owning a 308 for close to four years now, so far so good and very happy with it. IMHO the RCZ is a special car for Peugeot because it shows it is still able to produce a driver's car (admittedly still fall behind industry leaders), hopefully this is a stepping stone for the marque to develop a car that is capable to challenge the best and return back to the mainstream driver's car market.

bro azbro, about the added cap, is this also applicable to the the Auto version? This is the one that I am planning to buy. Thanks for the feedback too.

hi bro kahjye, would appreciate if you can elaborate more on your family's experience of owning this car, from your replies it seems you are not quite happy with it. Please let me know the reason. Thanks ya bro

bro, sorry to hear about the problems, mind I ask a quite straight-forward question, do you or any of your family members regret buying the car?

bro kahjye>>

Yes Peugeot offers 5 years unlimited mileage warranty, very attractive for me I must say. I am surprise to know you have problem with the colour of the car, but I guess nobody can help you in this regard. Side mirror and headlight problems although sound irritating but I believe it wasn't a major issue? Just send the car to SC, make some noise and get the problem fixed. What I am more concern and would like to know is the possibility of occurrence of major problems such as depollution error and etc...Again, thanks bro for your feedback.

bro chuakz>>

Agreed with your points. The purpose of this thread is to gather feedback from RCZ owners so we will know in general how reliable is the RCZ.

bro sekkee and OC4/3>>

I noticed that for the car enthusiasts like both you and others who are focusing more on sheer power and performance (correct me if you are not) RCZ is never your cup of tea. You are correct to point out that RCZ is not a sports car...to me it is a more balanced car in terms of design, built quality, functionality, performance and driving experience. This car could possibly attracts more common folks (like me) rather than enthusiasts, and this could be where Peugeot intended to position it (I stand corrected). There is another variant called RCZ-R coming, this is a more powerful and performance oriented car, hope it can really impress the car enthusiasts out there. Having said all these, I am a little surprise both of you never recommend a Scirocco to me, I believe this is the car that RCZ should have compared with.

bro winkiedilwy>>

I am not sure how your neighbour's son resorting to public transportation have anything to do with the power and performance of the RCZ...If this is the case then RCZ is definitely a very terrible daily commuter. Maybe other owners can shed some light on this topic. Anyhow, in my POV it is completely fine to treat the RCZ as a weekend car, I am planning to do this if I really get the car.

My sister driving a Golf TSI and good friend Golf GTi, so I know very well how good is the Volkswagen (in a layman's perspective). Friend's GTi is a 'tuned' version and is much more powerful than the stock one, I still remember how I screamed when first test drove his car doing hard acceleration. No doubt Peugeot is no way near Volkswagen in terms of performance. I am more of a relax cruiser so speed is not my priority in choosing a car.

bro... ... why you keep on stopping me to choose RCZ?

I will still choose RCZ over Forte Koup simply becasue I like RCZ more.

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bro azbro and SKYjack >>

paiseh, not familiar with manual transmission coz seldom drive one...but if looking at the price difference between Auto and Manual is so small, it will be a good idea to upgrade to Manual for the extra torque. Furthermore this will be my weekend car (if I really get it), so can slowly adapt to the manual transmission.

bro blinky and k!nex >>

To be honest the double bubble roof spare part cost is one of my main concerns, not sure whether insurance company willing to cover it? bro kahjye mind ask whether your RCZ's one covered? Worse comes to worst, I will allocate a contingency sum twice my 308's from my budget to cover this additional cost.

Guys, share with you a test drive review from Danny Tan of the Paultan.org >>

http://paultan.org/2010/05/24/peugeot-rcz-...ort-from-spain/

He gave RCZ quite a good feedback in the driving department and described it as "non-hardcore satisfaction". Truth be told this "non-hardcore satisfaction" is exactly what I am expecting from the RCZ, hope it will not disappoint me.

bro, mind explain what is your understanding of the 'Peugeot quality'? To you it is good or bad? And when you say it is good / bad what is the car brand that you are comparing with? Proton, Perodua, Toyota, Honda, Ford, Volkswagen, Audi, BMW or Benz? I believe most will agree Peugeot quality is better than Proton? I had driven quite a lot of Toyota and Honda in my oversea's trips but IMHO 308 is still better than them (no offense intended to the T & H owners here). And most will agree Audi, BMW and Benz are better but one will have to pay much higher price. And one more thing I am quite sure here, no one will be expecting a "extremely" well built car when buying a Peugeot.

I think the DSG gearbox issue, like you rightly pointed out, is just a reliability issue. All if not most car manufacturers have more or less some reliability issues, I think it is normal, even Peugeot has its own depollution error issue...

It is a known fact that generally Volkswagen's built quality is good.

my 3-1/2 years old 308 and sister's 1 year old Golf so far so good, don't have any annoying sound, maybe you were just unlucky. but you are right, I did hear some similar complaints from 308 owners, like bro victor_hoh of this thread. Some said Malaysia's hot and humid tropical climate not suitable for continental cars hence the squeaks and rattles.

The introduction of the face lift and price hike is "half" expected, but still the extent of the hike is IMHO a little bit too big and hardly justifiable. Still I like pre face lift version, the reason, apart from the design, is this is the very version that showcases Peugeot's seriousness in returning to the mainstream performance car market (I know many here would not agree with the “performance” part) which they had seem to abandoned for the last two decades. So the first version of the series will carry more meaning and provides some sort of added value to me.

Too bad seems used car market is the only place I can get the original version now. A question to all the sifus, will the second hand price of the original version drop with the introduction of the face lift?

Peugeot has officially reported to proceed with the production of their concept RCZ-R, this limited version RCZ has a modified and redeveloped 1.6 liter Prince Engine with increased power output 270hp, 330Nm torque and sprints from 0 to 100km/h in just 5.9 seconds (official figure from Peugeot), this makes the R version a real powerful car, couple with the original attractive appearance I think it is safe to say that the R is a ‘complete’ RCZ that many are probably looking and waiting for. Not sure whether it will make its way into Malaysia and how much Nasim is going to price it though.

Honestly bro I didn't know whether the earlier RCZ suffered the 'depollution' error but if the m engine is more reliable and could reduce the occurrence of the error then maybe worth the price increase I guess...

I agree with you that R is a special Peugeot, and like you I know many people actually look down at Peugeot but let's just give credit where it is due shall we? According to some auto blogs, the R boots a power-per-liter-basis at 160 hp/liter which is higher than Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse and Super Sport (10hp/liter lesser) and Ferrari 458 Italia. I think maybe this is a record for the 1.6 liter engine category and currently the highest in its class.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1084698...forbidden-fruit

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/289861/p..._and_specs.html

Detractor might say this is just marketing gimmick.

We just can't please everybody.

So take it easy bro

Not sure whether Nasim will bring it in, but if it really does, looking at the current face lift version selling at 240k where do you think Nasim will place this model? Rumour has it that the R version will be selling at around 10k GBP higher than the normal version (cheapest variant) in the UK, which if we convert directly into RM then the price could easily exceeds 300k, reaching the territory of a brand new Audi TT (350k)... Which one do you think Malaysian will buy, between a Audi and a Peugeot?

Honestly bro I am in a dilemma on whether to wait for the R or get a used original version. If the R is anything higher than 300k I believe I won't proceed to buy it. I will just wait and see what happens next.

Yes exactly, 300k over for a car is just too much…Personally I would not go for any car priced over 200k, for me this is just not right (no offense intended to the people who own 200k over cars), I was initially struggled with the RCZ too but it finally beats me with the ‘meaning’ and ‘added value’ that I mentioned earlier, but still 300k is already over the limits that I could tolerate...At the moment I think I will just wait and see what happens next, I believe in the time of a year or two we will have a clearer picture of the R’s entry into Malaysia and the selling price.

By the way, this is a comparison of specific power output and specific torque between R and its potential competitors which are already on sales here (Malaysian spec.)

Liter Power, HP Torque, Nm Specific Power, HP/L Specific Torque, Nm/L Selling Price (RM)

RCZ R 1.6 270 330 169 206 Unknown
Scirocco R 2.0 255 330 128 165 281,060
Megane RS 265 2.0 265 360 133 180 235,000