These continental cars will develop some creaks and rattles over time, I dont know how the Japanese ones (especially Toyota) has a rattle free cabin.

My family's vw and peugeot both has creaks, rattles and squeaks since the first week of owning it

u gotta be kidding me that Toyota cabin is rattle free.

my 3-1/2 years old 308 and sister's 1 year old Golf so far so good, don't have any annoying sound, maybe you were just unlucky. but you are right, I did hear some similar complaints from 308 owners, like bro victor_hoh of this thread. Some said Malaysia's hot and humid tropical climate not suitable for continental cars hence the squeaks and rattles.

My family's Innova is rattle-free, seriously, its already 8 years now, still no signs of rattle, just that it had an accident last month, still in the workshop, chassis affected

Older Toyotas seems to fare better. The old Vios at home, 7 years old now, is still rattle free except on very bumpy roads.

But the dugong....yea it rattles.

Just goes to show once more, when it comes to sushi cars, older is better.

u sure ah? Mine 4yrs+ a lot of noise.. maybe im using adjustable.

u change back everything stock + service at SC sure no problem one, 160k KM travelled and still sending to Toyota SC for service...

A close encounter with the upcoming new RCZ Facelift. A price boost to cost RM30k more than its predecessor. Still worth it, you think?

http://www.kensomuse.com/spotted-the-new-rcz-facelift/

The introduction of the face lift and price hike is "half" expected, but still the extent of the hike is IMHO a little bit too big and hardly justifiable. Still I like pre face lift version, the reason, apart from the design, is this is the very version that showcases Peugeot's seriousness in returning to the mainstream performance car market (I know many here would not agree with the “performance” part) which they had seem to abandoned for the last two decades. So the first version of the series will carry more meaning and provides some sort of added value to me.

Too bad seems used car market is the only place I can get the original version now. A question to all the sifus, will the second hand price of the original version drop with the introduction of the face lift?

Peugeot has officially reported to proceed with the production of their concept RCZ-R, this limited version RCZ has a modified and redeveloped 1.6 liter Prince Engine with increased power output 270hp, 330Nm torque and sprints from 0 to 100km/h in just 5.9 seconds (official figure from Peugeot), this makes the R version a real powerful car, couple with the original attractive appearance I think it is safe to say that the R is a ‘complete’ RCZ that many are probably looking and waiting for. Not sure whether it will make its way into Malaysia and how much Nasim is going to price it though.

yes, the bread and butter facelift is a little highly priced even if it comes with the much more reliable m engine from the chinese engineered 408. hmmm, see the irony?

but the r won't be cheap even if it comes. please expect it to surpass the prices of some of the usual competitors. those that malaysians usually hold higher regard of. and please don't say the peugeot should be cheaper simply because it is a peugeot. the r is a pretty special peugeot and it should be viewed and treated as such.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Jul 21 2013, 06:35 PM

270HP & 330NM? Now that makes it far more interesting! As for the price, just wait for 2nd hand ones, knowing France brands, the RV should drop like a stone.

someone will surely come into this thread and claim

VIOSTRD > RCZ

Honestly bro I didn't know whether the earlier RCZ suffered the 'depollution' error but if the m engine is more reliable and could reduce the occurrence of the error then maybe worth the price increase I guess...

I agree with you that R is a special Peugeot, and like you I know many people actually look down at Peugeot but let's just give credit where it is due shall we? According to some auto blogs, the R boots a power-per-liter-basis at 160 hp/liter which is higher than Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse and Super Sport (10hp/liter lesser) and Ferrari 458 Italia. I think maybe this is a record for the 1.6 liter engine category and currently the highest in its class.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1084698...forbidden-fruit

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/289861/p..._and_specs.html

Detractor might say this is just marketing gimmick.

We just can't please everybody.

So take it easy bro

Not sure whether Nasim will bring it in, but if it really does, looking at the current face lift version selling at 240k where do you think Nasim will place this model? Rumour has it that the R version will be selling at around 10k GBP higher than the normal version (cheapest variant) in the UK, which if we convert directly into RM then the price could easily exceeds 300k, reaching the territory of a brand new Audi TT (350k)... Which one do you think Malaysian will buy, between a Audi and a Peugeot?

true. it is a 'malaysian face thing'. lot's of recond tts and scirocco and golf around anyway on the (relatively) cheap these days. even if they bring the r in, i guess the numbers will be small. hopefully enough numbers for the aftersales to consider keeping stock of some bespoke parts for the car.

This post has been edited by lowpro: Jul 22 2013, 11:31 PM

Honestly bro I am in a dilemma on whether to wait for the R or get a used original version. If the R is anything higher than 300k I believe I won't proceed to buy it. I will just wait and see what happens next.

i agree with you, rm300k and above may be a little too far to stretch for the car. but what are the competitors offering the same statistics? 270hp, 330nm. let's not compare pedigrees as some would like to do and look hp for hp and nm for nm to see where the other competitors are priced.

Yes exactly, 300k over for a car is just too much…Personally I would not go for any car priced over 200k, for me this is just not right (no offense intended to the people who own 200k over cars), I was initially struggled with the RCZ too but it finally beats me with the ‘meaning’ and ‘added value’ that I mentioned earlier, but still 300k is already over the limits that I could tolerate...At the moment I think I will just wait and see what happens next, I believe in the time of a year or two we will have a clearer picture of the R’s entry into Malaysia and the selling price.

By the way, this is a comparison of specific power output and specific torque between R and its potential competitors which are already on sales here (Malaysian spec.)

Liter Power, HP Torque, Nm Specific Power, HP/L Specific Torque, Nm/L Selling Price (RM)

RCZ R 1.6 270 330 169 206 Unknown
Scirocco R 2.0 255 330 128 165 281,060
Megane RS 265 2.0 265 360 133 180 235,000

interesting. it's punching almost like a force fed 2.0. hard to place the guesstimate pricing as the current facelift also has gone up quite a bit already meaning the r could slot in somewhere between the scirocco r and the megane.

whatever the price, it is still one heck of a desirable car!

Rcz is manufactured by top Austrian manufacturer called Magna Steyr.

The company manufactured all of original BMW X3s (model code E83), the Aston Martin Rapide and developed several cars on behalf of manufacturers such as the Audi TT, Fiat Bravo and Peugeot RCZ.