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dreamer101
post Apr 8 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(Halamdar @ Apr 8 2013, 11:06 PM)
That is provided that you have gain much working experience, Then paper qualitification carry less weight. For a fresh graduate that has zero experience. How are they going to compete to get into the trainee post? That is the important question that you have to ask.

Also I want to emphasize that you cannot use your Good old time, aka 10 to 15 yrs ago as a yard stick. Time change, things change, requirement change. Competition to get job become Much more intense nowadays.

Eg. A stack of application CV for you to filter through to give interview. I am very sure the Oxbridge, Ivy league uni graduate get the 1st round interview before the rest. Would you agree ?

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Halamdar,

<<Eg. A stack of application CV for you to filter through to give interview.>>

Only people that Do NOT KNOW how to use BETTER METHOD to find a job use that method. 90+% of jobs are never advertised to begin with. Hence, those people are competing with 10% of the open positions.

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post Apr 8 2013, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(Halamdar @ Apr 8 2013, 11:19 PM)
Hmmm may be I am dinasaurs...and completely out of touch...

But isnt with MNC, the job offer is going through that procedure?

Or just by connection? You cannot be serious...

I understand about the internship thingie. But that in itself usually is advertised. That is what I know how my friend kids got the job.

But I could be mistaken..
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Halamdar,

I had 10+ jobs across 20+ years. Only my first job is through advertisement. Yes, people can CHOOSE to use the INFERIOR METHOD to competing for the 10% open positions. But, SMARTER people grab the 90% open position before it is advertised.

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post Apr 8 2013, 11:29 PM

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Folks,

IMHO, there are only 2 social classes:

1) You are not RICH enough. Hence, you need to CARE how people think of you.

2) You are RICH enough to live your life INDEPENDENT of how people think of you.

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post Apr 9 2013, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(edyek @ Apr 8 2013, 11:35 PM)
Dreamer boss, Im having the same mindset as you do the moment I read through the post.  biggrin.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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edyek,

Congratulation!!!

That means you are either there or almost there..... You are about to be FREE.....

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post Apr 9 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Apr 9 2013, 08:11 AM)
i think different.

according to the chart edyek spend most time in internet adn social media so should be new affluent worker.

If he/she wanted to move up to elite. Still 3 more steps.
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tikaram,

<<i think different.>>

Bingo!!!

<<If he/she wanted to move up to elite. Still 3 more steps.>>

LOL!!!

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post Apr 9 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Apr 9 2013, 08:27 AM)
I agree with both bosses  laugh.gif But with exceptions.

"Rich" to different people have different perception. When you are contented with what you have, usually you will feel rich. The number of zeros in your bank account does not matter to define "rich"

But to a greedy man, he will never feel rich.

I involve a lot in business associations. Thus I know a lot of businessmen friends in a few industries. In general (maybe 90%), these rich businessmen do CARE about how people thought about them. And mind you, their businesses are worth tens of millions or hundreds of millions. Some are Datuks and Tan Sri who own a few listed companies. Are they not rich enough ? They drive fancy cars. If a new model is out, they are the first ones to drive and show off to everyone. They wear those expensive watches. They always boost about their overseas trip that cost hundreds of thousand. Children education, wife's designer bags/cloths and even how many mistresses and which famous model became their mistresses ! They always compete against each other. If one friend says out loud his car/watch is not good enough, the friend become his enemy immediately. What does that tell us ? Because they CARE about how people think of them. Are they not rich enough ?

But 1 thing I observed, although they are "monetarily rich", most of them are not really happy  laugh.gif
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EddyLB,

Those people NEED to impress OTHERS in order to stay in business. Hence, they are NOT FREE.

Path to happiness is contentment... The ability to say ENOUGH....

<<Are they not rich enough ?>>

They believe they are not rich enough. Hence, they are still in the rat race...

Many of my family members are millionaires. They DO NOT CARE to be known outside of their circle of friends and families...

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post Apr 9 2013, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(ieyjj @ Apr 9 2013, 10:04 AM)
one should not categorise people. you only categorise objects. we are all human. no such thing as upper class, middle class. etc. what's the definition of middle class? wealth? intelligence? so if a person were to be rich, does that mean he is smarter than the less wealthy? one cannot put a tag on an individual. there will always be someone "better" than you. just be who you are and live life to its fullest period.
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ieyjj,

If you know that, why bother wasting your time and energy arguing with FOOLS on how you should live your life??

Be the BEST that you can be. Live your own life.. Let's others choose their own path...

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post Apr 9 2013, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Apr 8 2013, 11:29 PM)
Folks,

IMHO, there are only 2 social classes:

1) You are not RICH enough.  Hence, you need to CARE how people think of you.

2) You are RICH enough to live your life INDEPENDENT of how people think of you.

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Apr 9 2013, 11:55 AM)
Yes, actually it is a matter of personal choice. Some rich people don't care what others think about them, whereas other rich people do care a lot about what others think of them

I am just responding to the statement "1) You are not RICH enough. Hence, you need to CARE how people think of you." It is a sweeping statement which generalise the mentality of rich people. In real life, it does not apply to all rich people
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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Apr 9 2013, 11:57 AM)
Boss, as per my reply to edyek, there are 101 type of rich people. Some do CARE about what others think of them...
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EddyLB,

<<whereas other rich people do care a lot about what others think of them>>

All the examples that you stated, those people believe they NEED to care about what others think of them. They had NO CHOICE. In my definition, they are NOT RICH...

<<It is a sweeping statement which generalise the mentality of rich people. In real life, it does not apply to all rich people>>

Your definition of RICH People is on what they earn and own. My definition of Rich People is on their degree of FREEDOM. Your definition is an generalizaton too. It is COMMON DEFINITION use by AVERAGE people. It is NOT necessary a definition use by Rich people to judge each other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs

See above.. When a person has ENOUGH WEALTH, their need is DIFFERENT from NORMAL people.

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post Apr 9 2013, 08:44 PM

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Folks,

When a person has ENOUGH wealth, he / she realizes something. Life is TOO SHORT. He / she only live once. Time is more precious than money for that class of people. Hence, he / she spend more effort to live their own lives in the way that they want. They couldn't care less about how that fit into any social norm. Those are what we call a TRULY RICH person.

That kind of person is the MASTER of their wealth. They do not work for money. They use their money to pursue happiness and freedom.

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