Have anyone tried to apply migration to Australia? Anyone know of the license agent in KL and the charging rate?thanks

there are many migration agents around..
flip thru d newspaper, ady got a lot of ads...
charges will depend on wat's ur situation.. if straight forward case, then it's cheaper.. oso depends on whether it's skills migration, business migration..etc...

total cost for PR application plus migration lawyer fees is around RM10000 to RM15000, depending on AUD/MYR currency exchange rate.

is your job in the demand list?

Thanks. So the agency mostly is located in KL. Wow the agency fees quite high hai.

do it yourself. just read up on it. it isnt that hard. u might have to make a couple of international phone calls though..

not as easy as you think it is. the amount of paper work and documents required. it's worth paying for the services, the lawyers will keep track, follow up and make sure your application goes through as long as you are qualified (based on the points system).

shawnnny,

Actually it is not that difficult to do it yourself. I have migrated to Melbourne since Mar last year and I applied on my own. Many of us here also did it ourselves. You just have to do some research on www.immi.gov.au and you can get lots of info from the globalmalaysians forum at www.globalmalaysians.com/forum.

texcedo,
What industry are you in? Currently Australia is controlling the number of visa applications. If you are not state/employer sponsored and your skill is not in the critical list, it might takes you quite a while to get it.

my elder bro is a pr there, what options do i hv to migrate. i've seen lots of family migrated to aus, but works in restaurants. and those restaurants aren't theirs.

First and foremost I'm not really sure if this is the place to ask and my apology if I have posted this in the wrong section.

I'm migrating to Australia next year and everything seemed settled except for moving stuffs there. Any idea of fowarding agents in Malaysia (or even better Sabah) that provide cargo service for such? I have been looking up and down for months and still going no where. Thanks.

My family used the service of a forwarding agent in Puchong (Selangor) when they migrated to NZ few years ago. I can't remember the cost already though but it was via ship and took around a month to reach so we send it around 1 month earlier and it reach just in time for them to move in and settle down.

Anyway, let me know if you want their contact, don't know if it'll be any help to you since it's in Selangor and not Sabah.

Hi do u mind pm me their contact number and how much they cost? Thanks

Please give me their contacts, I'll ask from there

So nice!! I want to migrate also ...

This post has been edited by TSOM: Sep 11 2012, 06:14 PM

Honest question, why are you looking to migrate?

I just love to live overseas ..

This post has been edited by TSOM: Sep 11 2012, 06:15 PM

Go for homestay or working holiday then. It's not easy living overseas unless you plan to retire there, or plan to study there and continue to work there, if you can find a job that is.

Grass isn't always greener on the other side.

If you have never personally been to a place, do not assume you will like it.

Well, it depends on individuals...

I get along with people quite easily; and I like to immerse into a foreign cultures. I've lived in 3 different countries other than Malaysia, ranging from months to years, and I like them all (they are all advanced countries of course)..!! And I've no doubt that I'll like Australia more than 1Malaysia.

This post has been edited by TSOM: Sep 13 2012, 04:33 AM

When I moved from KL to SG, the company engaged Crown Relocations to move my sh*t. They came to my house, wrapped and packed everything, shipped (by van lol) to SG, 30 days temporary storage in SG while I sorted out where to stay, then unpack everything in my SG place also.

No idea the cost cos company pay.

I have FREE storage for your RETRO items :-)

i am kinda interested with immigration to Australia. how you get the PR there??
i heard it is kinda hard to get PR there....the easiest way to get PR is to study there for 2 years.

Hi All,

i would like to know if want to migrate to Aus , i heard my relative mention have to find a job there first only can migrate or need find a agent to help? is that true or have other way?

appreciate alot for the help . ^^

Hi everyone.

Just wondering normally how much AUD DOLLAR does agency charge on migration application or assisting people to apply for Permanent Resident (PR) to Australia?

What I heard their professional fees is about AUD3800 (Not including Australia immigration application fees) for head to toe services.

May I know is this price reasonable or over price? Need advice from anyone who applied before via migration agency.

Thank you

it should be around that figure..my friend got it for RM14k..

I'll do it for half that price.

Try answering these questions from the website below to assess your eligibility for any of the visas available.

http://www.immi.gov.au/visawizard/#vw=%23a_intro

Alternatively, consult a migration agent (costs more $) to do an assessment before proceding with the application.

Thread merged & bumped

Try to look alternative. Each agent charge differently. I was overcharge as 1 of my friend paid lesser than mine. Of course i still got my PR but just that you have fork out more cash for it.

It's a chicken and egg thing. If you're lucky with Ozzie company willing to sponsor you, which your profession is highly demanded there and desperately need you. Realistically, it seldom happen but not possible.
Normally Ozzie company will put PR holders priority for job. Why should they pay so much money to get you in where there's bunch of same graduates who is PR/citizens.
My advise is get your PR 1st and talk later on the job.

i read from somewhere, you can diy. no need pay single cents to agency.

what you need is time, effort, and know what to do.

try the job and career subforum, there's a thread about working in australia, they may give you more insight/details.

or if u got AUD5 million to buy Aussie gov bond, str8 give u PR

why is it so hard to DIY??

Just read what you need ... if you've no (language) understanding problem, then it'll be ok ...

Check the IELTS test requirement first.

See if it kills your interest.



I have a few friends who took the test like at least 10 times to get an 8 for EVERY single category of the IELTS test.

Though the score requirement is dependent on your profession.

Very much indeed. Doctors,lawyers or high profession jobs requires acedemic test of band 7 or 8.
Your friend who taking the test for 10 times, i really salute them! Not everyone could have this patient!haha

diy cost very little; if u r qualified. easy.

or is it rm14k for lubang one?

They give you rm14k or you give them?

I have a degree in Marketing, never took IELTS before, any chance I can get into Australia ?

Unfortunately your Marketing qualification is not a 'in need' category currently in AUS. Chances are you will require to take IELTS, however passing requirements might differ like what Vaedoris mentioned. For me I was only required to score an overall of 7 points, under the 'General Training' version. There are two different versions in IELTS, 'Acadamic' & 'General Training', people who are applying for academic reasons (e.g. further studies) will require to take the 'Academic' one, which is more difficult. The rest will only require to take 'General Training', which is an easier test.

This post has been edited by rg470: May 6 2013, 11:44 AM

If i remember correctly, you will have to pay an application cost of about 2.5k AUD to AU Immi dept for PR (correct me if im wrong guys), and that will be charged regardless if your application is successful or not.

So for DIY people, depending on the type of application, make sure you do your homework thoroughly and prepare every single bit of documents, double check, make sure photocopies are signed by witnessed by authorised justice of peace/notary public, proof documents translated by Australian authorised agencies (if needed), and follow the guidelines/check boxes stated in the application papers closely. This means lots of travelling around to get things done, but if you think the end result is worth it, it won't be a problem.

Good Luck

Your question is too general. Do you have work experience? Have you studied in Australia for at least 2 years? Do you have close relatives in Australia?
Every individual case is different so being vague is not going to provide you with an accurate answer.

If you are not keen to do all the research, you can always try the assessment quiz available at the migration agent website to see if you qualified. Then, you will know if you have the qualified to apply for PR.

no lobang available

I have a Bachelor Degree in IT, I have 6 years experience in IT industry,
My wife has the same experience too, I have a kid, thinking to migrate to AUS.
Easy to get PR?

This would be a good place to start http://www.immi.gov.au/visawizard/
Or you can always engage in an agent service, the first consultation is always free

Personally, I would apply PR without any help from an "agent".

The Australian immigration provides all the information one needs for migration to Australia.

Just follow the requirements given and save thousands and thousands of dollar.

Consulting an agent does not make it any easier in my opinion.

An agent follows the requirements given by the Australian immigration anyway, and Australian immigration is very efficient in providing information and assistance. So why waste money on an agent cause it does not make it easier?

I beg to differ, as the process is long and complicated if you are not familar with the process. An agent will help you through short cuts (though not always, case-by-case basis) and cut down time reading and figuring out how to provide and fulfill the process requirement. It is more so if the applicant is applying in a family which requires to submit countless of documents or an off shore applicant. The DIAC will also demand you to resubmit documents if deem unsatifactory.

The conclusion is you'll need an agent if:

1. English is not your first language, you'll need to fully understand the terms in the forms so that you furnish them the correct/required information. Else you risk delays, given a run around or even rejection.
2. No contact, relatives, or friends residing in Australia as your reference (depending on the type of application)
3. Off shore applicant (meaning applying from outside Australia)



This post has been edited by rg470: May 7 2013, 01:58 PM

I agreed. I think it is easier to apply for PR after graduating from Australian Uni should you meet the requirement. As when you have work experience, your experience and skills have to be assessed by a recognized body before you are able to apply for PR.
Hence, it actually depends on your situation. You can apply on your own if you have friends/relatives that have applied before you which you can seek advice (if it is the same requirements as the migrations requirements and regulation changes almost every July each year)

Sorry.
Noob here,

From the AUS VISA wizard,
8. Is your nominated occupation on a Skilled Occupation List (SOL)?

Software Engineer considered as one of the occupation?

Graduating from an Australian university no longer enables/qualify youself as an PR applicant, gone were the days when DIAC officers go to universities to give out application forms to final semester/year students. They now demand you to return to your country of origin as soon as you complete your studies and then apply whatever visa application you intend to from there onwards with the exception if you can secure an employer/state sponsored visa before your student visa runs out.

I think it has been quite some time since DIAC officers go to universities to give you application forms. All of my friends that applied PR in the past 3 years, apply once they graduate if they meet the requirement.
I think now international students are given a visa to allowed them to stay in Australia for 18 months if you study for 3 years and graduate with a bachelor. During this period, i think they have to apply for EOI should there skill set is required. I am not too familiar with the new change in regulation as most of my friends applied their PR with the previous regulation

As rg470 said, it's not that easy to apply for PR now after graduating.
I know a few friends who has graduated and was trying to apply (in the past 6 months), now they are back in Malaysia already. They were not successful with the application.

I agree, my sister did the same through online just before she graduated, that was about 4 years ago. It then took about a year to get it approved. If you are applying through skill migration, you'll need to have relevant work experience of at least 3 to 5 years (depending on type of industry/skill), or Australian working experience (sounds stupid to me coz' you don't get hired here without the visa in the first place). When I myself went looking for jobs online here, they will fail you as soon as they know you are not a PR or relevant working visa holder.

My sister applied for KPMG here and the 1st question they asked on their job application website was, "Are you a XXX visa holder?" Answer "No" and it will bring you straight to "Unfortunately you do not meet our recruitment requirements, thank you". LOL

It is the whole chicken and egg situation, no job cant get sponsor for work visa, no right visa, cant look for a job. This actually all depends on luck when come to securing a job there. Not necessary that you are a PR holder, you will get a job more easily. It definitely help but not a guarantee.

It's not much more complicated than applying for other type of visas. In fact, the correct name of "Australian PR" is permanent visa which lasts for 5 years. A person who holds this visa is considered a permanent resident, and the residency status does not expire (to those looking for info, please confirm this with the immigration). However, permanent visa renewal is compulsory once every five years.

Well, if the applicant feels that the official information given by the immigration is too complicated, I also agree just like you said that seeking an agent is the best option.

However, I still insist that doing it yourself is the best way to apply for it. I don't know the cost here in Malaysia, but in Australia it could cost over 2000 AUD (5 years ago) just for the agent's services.

This post has been edited by Vaedoris: May 7 2013, 07:38 PM

Some years back when I was looking the agent fees in Malaysia were roughly RM7-8k, independent of whether you were applying alone or with a family.

Then it's more expensive than I thought it would.

All the more reason to apply it independently.

This post has been edited by Vaedoris: May 7 2013, 11:01 PM

The thing is I know two people applying independently and failed, one who did it through the agent which went through ok. RM7-8k isn't a huge sum for me, the time I saved was.

But I'm not sure how it changes now that you're required to submit a LOI etc. How relevant would an agent be nowadays?

It is always cheaper hiring an agent from AUS directly, there are plenty of formally malaysian agents around who understands our background and needs.

Even if one fully understands the forms and instructions given, you still lack of the tips & shortcuts of getting through and fast, which I think it all matters at the end of the day. Knowing someone who have gone through the application process is good, but remember all applications are vetted case-by-case basis so it might not apply to yourself.
You sounded like a permanant visa holder/citizen, mind sharing what sub-class did you apply for?

This post has been edited by rg470: May 8 2013, 09:00 AM

I think agent fees are pretty standard, the only difference is the type of visa you're applying and the different fees you need to pay.

I know agents who cant get same type jobs in Australia so they become agents. After 2 years searching for suitable jobs, my friend's hubby who used to be a school principal joined as Jims Mowing franchise grasscutter! His wife has become an agent.

I've got 3 friends who applied and successfully did so last year and this year.

Really... it's just about following instructions, and they are all about submitting documents.

And I can assure you there is no such thing as "shortcut" with the Australian immigration.

It saved them thousands of Australian Dollar, not seeking an agent.


I will apply for subclass 175 once my documents are ready.



This post has been edited by Vaedoris: May 8 2013, 05:32 PM

From what i heard, that's pretty common in aus and NZ. If you have a high position job, don't expect to be getting the same position there when you look for a job there. Most will be doing freelance stuff, realtor, insurance agents or such. So one has to be prepared to start all the way from the beginning. One of a family friend was holding a high managerial position in a big MNC in Malaysia, she came to NZ and the only job that she could find was being an office girl photo stating papers, so now took up realtor course and work for property company. Another family, wife is an insurance agent, husband couldn't find a job and went back to Malaysia to work, while the 2 kids study in NZ.

Of course some people also have better luck or contacts and will get their ideal jobs.

That is all because you do not have the "Australian" working experience and do not recognize our malaysian working experience, but there are exceptions where in industries which they have no one or no choice then only they will take into account. Therefore the best way to maintain your whatever position/experience is through employer transfer.

IT Software Engineer / Programmer consider as recognized working experience?

What they mean is that you need to have working experience in Australia. No matter how well you did in Malaysia, it doesn't mean you can qualify for the job you want in that industry.

OK true.

But the subclass 189 written as,
Skilled employment outside Australia

At least three but less than five years (of past 10 years) = 5 points
At least five but less than eight years (of past 10 years) = 10 points
At least eight and up to 10 years (of past 10 years) = 20 points

The migration does recognize the working experience, maybe not the companies.

Getting your PR approved is one thing. Getting a job to sustain your living expenses there is another thing.
Unless you have lots of financial means then can go buy property, rent out and collect rental then don't need to work for people.

Yes, but you'll need to proof your skills. For your case you'll have to write an CV to ACS (Australia Computing Society) to get it certified, best if you could take one of their certification. It is also a must to have all those IT certifications from Microsoft, Cisco, Linux, VMware etc.

OK noted.

Agree. Took me 2-3 months to look for a job. Thanks to my ex-boss. Without any reference, could easily take 6-18 months.

Also need lots of income to sustain, I would suggest minimum Rm20k to sustain for 6 months until can find a casual job.
some basic breakdowns in AUD

Rental Deposit(security bond): $1200
Rental Per month: $1000
Internet/Bills per month: $100
Food/Drinks(Eating home): $600

Extra:
Eating out(Cheap Food): $10 per meal
Transportation(2 ways in same zone): $7

Looking for casual job is not easy anymore, not to mention professional job.

Which area r u staying now?
What kind of job u looking?

melb cbd.
found job d.

How's the job market there? WA property/rental is carzy right now, average $550 per week!

whole house fully furnished $550 per week?

You wished, not furnished of course!

Alamak,
Looks like i got to rent a room first before asking my family to join me.

There's no longer subclass 175. Replaced with 189. The difference is that you have to go thru the skillselect system which you have to submit your expression of interest (EOI) and wait for their invitation.
The trickiest part is the medical. If your medical fails you, everything gone.

I did mine at RM 20k. Yes, i got mine January tis year

My Health should be fine.

Whole family go there, then u only find job there?

Job market super bad. Many jobless. $550 per week is common for a house in the city

I kinda agree of DIY thing. Malaysian tend to think that going thru agent got 'lobang' to get PR (Eventhough i used agent).
After gone thru the whole process, i realise it's so easy to get PR if you meet the requirement and actually my agent shaking his leg. Giving wrong info to me somemore and i screw him. I won't engage agent but due to workload, i have no choice have to take 1.
Engage agent is for someone who have difficulties in english or non-native speakers. If you understand english, then no point to engage coz DIAC websites info is quite clear (Not like our government website bring you to Holland!) haha...

Go alone 1st, after settle down then bring family. If not, will suffer

You're right! Just came back from there last week. Rental is ridiculous! How to recoup, i also asking same question.

Having said that, their meaning of 'not furnished' will still consist of basic things like kitchen cabinets, stoves with hood, carpet, basic bathroom furniture, window blinds, Air-con & dishwasher (if you're lucky) etc....

Renting here is a world apart compared to back home, you'll subject to an inspection by the agent/owner about every 3 months, you'll have to clean the whole house before they inspect or else risk getting your bond deducted or even black listed.

This post has been edited by rg470: May 9 2013, 04:07 PM

Then all you need to do is compile your document and apply. As long you meet their requirement, the fastest will be 6mths

Buy instead of rent, with the interest rates now record low, no point puting your $$ in term deposits.

You're right! Need reference somemore!
Piece of advice, always take pics before moving in or signing anything coz my friend kena once on the house whereby there's defect which it's already there before they move in! End up have to pay!

Haha, that's where your building inspection report comes into play when you first move in. You'll need to jot down every little defect in the report, and submit it to the agent. Make a copy of the report before you send if possible coz' mine never return a copy for me (by right they should). Lucky me

Yeah, my last week trip actually went down to south perth looking for new house. It's damn beautiful and kinda cheap (land+house @ AUD350k)
Dollar to dollar, i think it's reasonable. Developer even give you special price on showunit and rent from you with return 8%. It's a bargain!
All you need to do is secure a job 1st, submit in 20% downpayment (to avoid stupid insurance cover banks which pay by you). Weekly repayment is lower than AUD500 and the house is yours.
But have to bear in mind that utility cost consist of council fees (AUD1000+), water annual fees (AUD900) which exclude monthly bills.
After calculate, your salary must at least hit AUD100K to live moderately.
Yeah, sounds nice but back to square one, MUST SECURE JOB 1ST!!!

You're right mate! Mind telling which suburb you were looking? I was looking at Canning Vale, Harrisdale area but the accessibility is a problem if you need to drive to the city to work, heavy traffic. Unfortunately, the taxes here are getting higher & higher and utilities rates are increasing almost 6% every freaking year! I guess the only thing I can shout about is I get to save like $40k p.a together with my wife, but that's with no kids & mortgage.

I was looking at Canning Vale too. Went to their show village in southern river and newhaven piara waters. Even went to older places like Willeton, Bullcreek and Gosnell area. Houses is freaking beautiful and price is reasonable. Just that tax and transport is a problem.
Yeah, accessibility is a problem. My friend have to take bus like 1 hour to reach office. Driving is not advisable.
I did some research during my trip there and went to check on the bank loan. This downpayment thing is something have to think about. BAnk offers 90% loan but have to buy insurance to cover bank incase you can't pay. Actually that insurance pay for nothing! The best is save 20% for downpayment and get a house to avoid insurance.
South Perth got so many asians especially chinese and indians. Even got indian temple somemore which surprise me!
Well, i think above suburb is very nice.
Armadale is the worst, many Abo living there causing trouble.

Well, many people thinks that engaging agent will create lobang for you. Sorry, Ozzie don't buy this. Angmoh is straight forward.
If you can understand english, no point of engaging agent, waste of money. Agent only meant for people example japanese/korean/chinese (china) or someone who really can't understand english language from their home country.
I don't find my agent useful as they shaking legs all the time only until i screw them then only they work.

Buy a house near the train station & bus station, can save buying car (if you don't do road trips ). My banker advised me to play safe, take a maximum of 70% only, just in case if shit happens, you never know. I think medical & income insurance is very important, especially people like me starting a family. The only problem now is I have yet to have the amount for that 20-30% downpayment, not to mention others fees like stamp duty, settlement agent fees etc etc..... Avoid the subburbs in the east and south east, lots of goverment housing filled with Abos.

You're right. But do bear in mind near train station also got those hinky panky people loitering around. I think, park your car there, take bus or train.
Your banker is right. In order to reduce the risk on the repayment issue, it's the safest but how many can fork out 20-30% downpayment??
My situation is that i have 2 kids here and yeah i have two condo units. Even i sell off 1 of the unit only can turn out like 15% only after conversion.
1st homebuyers (FHOG) got this AUD7k given by government which i think can settle lawyer fees. I think the agent fees can settle thru top up loan.
I think you case is much simpler than mine. now i need to scratch my head how to get job 1st, relocate children, looking for house...

Don't choose a house right opposite the station lah, else you get the train to "wake" you up everyday A house within 10 minutes walking distance to any train/bus station will be just fine. You might also want to choose a house within reputable school zones, for e.g. in Perth high schools like Rossmoyne, Willetton & Applecross are one of the popular top schools here. You don't hire a lawyer here, we hire a Settlement Agent where he will do all the necessary submition of documents & fees, but they'll charge around $1500. Have a look below an example of the breakdown of the fees and charges:

v Purchase Price $939,000.00
v Our Standard Fee ($2,343.35 less 50.93% inc GST) $1,150.00 (Settlement agent fee)

Government Fees
v Stamp Duty $39,474.00 (4% of purchase price)
v Registration Fee $350.00
v Title Searches $84.00
v Water Corporation Enquiry Fees $41.35
v Approximate Local Authority Enquiry Fee $65.00
v Land Tax Enquiry Fee $35.00
v Clause 42 Enquiry Fee $25.00
v Approximate Landgate Fees $30.00
v Total GST on Disbursements $35.54

Disbursements
v Bank Cheque Fee $10.00
v Postage $25.00
v Telephone $25.00
v Photocopies and Miscellaneous $15.00

Total:980,364.89

You'll also have other optional things like building & pests inspection fees if you're not buying a brandnew property, which will costs you about $600.

Great info you got there! Wow,900K house is very much expensive. I think i'll aim for 500k below. Stamp duty shall waive for 1st home buyer below that. While other fees i think is unavoidable. I think can use 7k to settle (based on FHOG scheme)
Yeah, school reputation affecting the property price nearby. Some rundown houses selling crazy price at 700-800k, CRAZY!!!
I even went to Thornlie area saw a very lousy house. When i walked in, the house is like a garbage collection centre in KL. Agent told me that they got the new plan approved to tear down the house and rebuild in a 4 unit apartment. Price? Building cost AUD 1mil net. land price 370k.
Since i'm in construction, 1million is too expensive. the most is below 800k, agent and contractor wanna earn high profit like 40%??hmm...