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post May 2 2013, 03:36 PM

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Try answering these questions from the website below to assess your eligibility for any of the visas available.

http://www.immi.gov.au/visawizard/#vw=%23a_intro

Alternatively, consult a migration agent (costs more $) to do an assessment before proceding with the application.
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post May 6 2013, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ May 6 2013, 11:14 AM)
I have a degree in Marketing, never took IELTS before, any chance I can get into Australia ?
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Unfortunately your Marketing qualification is not a 'in need' category currently in AUS. Chances are you will require to take IELTS, however passing requirements might differ like what Vaedoris mentioned. For me I was only required to score an overall of 7 points, under the 'General Training' version. There are two different versions in IELTS, 'Acadamic' & 'General Training', people who are applying for academic reasons (e.g. further studies) will require to take the 'Academic' one, which is more difficult. The rest will only require to take 'General Training', which is an easier test.

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post May 7 2013, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(Vaedoris @ May 7 2013, 01:25 PM)
Personally, I would apply PR without any help from an "agent".

The Australian immigration provides all the information one needs for migration to Australia.

Just follow the requirements given and save thousands and thousands of dollar.

Consulting an agent does not make it any easier in my opinion.

An agent follows the requirements given by the Australian immigration anyway, and Australian immigration is very efficient in providing information and assistance. So why waste money on an agent cause it does not make it easier?
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I beg to differ, as the process is long and complicated if you are not familar with the process. An agent will help you through short cuts (though not always, case-by-case basis) and cut down time reading and figuring out how to provide and fulfill the process requirement. It is more so if the applicant is applying in a family which requires to submit countless of documents or an off shore applicant. The DIAC will also demand you to resubmit documents if deem unsatifactory.

The conclusion is you'll need an agent if:

1. English is not your first language, you'll need to fully understand the terms in the forms so that you furnish them the correct/required information. Else you risk delays, given a run around or even rejection.
2. No contact, relatives, or friends residing in Australia as your reference (depending on the type of application)
3. Off shore applicant (meaning applying from outside Australia)



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post May 7 2013, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(jtsl9 @ May 7 2013, 02:53 PM)
I agreed. I think it is easier to apply for PR after graduating from Australian Uni should you meet the requirement. As when you have work experience, your experience and skills have to be assessed by a recognized body before you are able to apply for PR.
Hence, it actually depends on your situation. You can apply on your own if you have friends/relatives that have applied before you which you can seek advice (if it is the same requirements as the migrations requirements and regulation changes almost every July each year)
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Graduating from an Australian university no longer enables/qualify youself as an PR applicant, gone were the days when DIAC officers go to universities to give out application forms to final semester/year students. They now demand you to return to your country of origin as soon as you complete your studies and then apply whatever visa application you intend to from there onwards with the exception if you can secure an employer/state sponsored visa before your student visa runs out.
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post May 7 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(jtsl9 @ May 7 2013, 03:59 PM)
I think it has been quite some time since DIAC officers go to universities to give you application forms. All of my friends that applied PR in the past 3 years, apply once they graduate if they meet the requirement.
I think now international students are given a visa to allowed them to stay in Australia for 18 months if you study for 3 years and graduate with a bachelor. During this period, i think they have to apply for EOI should there skill set is required. I am not too familiar with the new change in regulation as most of my friends applied their PR with the previous regulation
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I agree, my sister did the same through online just before she graduated, that was about 4 years ago. It then took about a year to get it approved. If you are applying through skill migration, you'll need to have relevant work experience of at least 3 to 5 years (depending on type of industry/skill), or Australian working experience (sounds stupid to me coz' you don't get hired here without the visa in the first place). When I myself went looking for jobs online here, they will fail you as soon as they know you are not a PR or relevant working visa holder.

My sister applied for KPMG here and the 1st question they asked on their job application website was, "Are you a XXX visa holder?" Answer "No" and it will bring you straight to "Unfortunately you do not meet our recruitment requirements, thank you". LOL
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post May 8 2013, 08:47 AM

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It is always cheaper hiring an agent from AUS directly, there are plenty of formally malaysian agents around who understands our background and needs.
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post May 8 2013, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(Vaedoris @ May 7 2013, 07:37 PM)
It's not much more complicated than applying for other type of visas. In fact, the correct name of "Australian PR" is permanent visa which lasts for 5 years. A person who holds this visa is considered a permanent resident, and the residency status does not expire (to those looking for info, please confirm this with the immigration). However, permanent visa renewal is compulsory once every five years.

Well, if the applicant feels that the official information given by the immigration is too complicated, I also agree just like you said that seeking an agent is the best option.

However, I still insist that doing it yourself is the best way to apply for it. I don't know the cost here in Malaysia, but in Australia it could cost over 2000 AUD (5 years ago) just for the agent's services.
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Even if one fully understands the forms and instructions given, you still lack of the tips & shortcuts of getting through and fast, which I think it all matters at the end of the day. Knowing someone who have gone through the application process is good, but remember all applications are vetted case-by-case basis so it might not apply to yourself.
You sounded like a permanant visa holder/citizen, mind sharing what sub-class did you apply for?

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post May 8 2013, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ May 7 2013, 10:04 PM)
Some years back when I was looking the agent fees in Malaysia were roughly RM7-8k, independent of whether you were applying alone or with a family.
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I think agent fees are pretty standard, the only difference is the type of visa you're applying and the different fees you need to pay.
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post May 9 2013, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ May 8 2013, 06:42 PM)
From what i heard, that's pretty common in aus and NZ. If you have a high position job, don't expect to be getting the same position there when you look for a job there. Most will be doing freelance stuff, realtor, insurance agents or such. So one has to be prepared to start all the way from the beginning. One of a family friend was holding a high managerial position in a big MNC in Malaysia, she came to NZ and the only job that she could find was being an office girl photo stating papers, so now took up realtor course and work for property company. Another family, wife is an insurance agent, husband couldn't find a job and went back to Malaysia to work, while the 2 kids study in NZ.

Of course some people also have better luck or contacts and will get their ideal jobs.
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That is all because you do not have the "Australian" working experience and do not recognize our malaysian working experience, but there are exceptions where in industries which they have no one or no choice then only they will take into account. Therefore the best way to maintain your whatever position/experience is through employer transfer.
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post May 9 2013, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ May 9 2013, 12:33 PM)
OK true.

But the subclass 189 written as,
Skilled employment outside Australia

At least three but less than five years (of past 10 years) = 5 points
At least five but less than eight years (of past 10 years) = 10 points
At least eight and up to 10 years (of past 10 years) = 20 points

The migration does recognize the working experience, maybe not the companies.
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Yes, but you'll need to proof your skills. For your case you'll have to write an CV to ACS (Australia Computing Society) to get it certified, best if you could take one of their certification. It is also a must to have all those IT certifications from Microsoft, Cisco, Linux, VMware etc.
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post May 9 2013, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(onomatopoeia @ May 9 2013, 03:22 PM)
melb cbd.
found job d.
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How's the job market there? WA property/rental is carzy right now, average $550 per week!
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post May 9 2013, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ May 9 2013, 03:38 PM)
whole house fully furnished $550 per week?
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You wished, not furnished of course!
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post May 9 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ May 9 2013, 03:56 PM)
Alamak,
Looks like i got to rent a room first before asking my family to join me.
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Having said that, their meaning of 'not furnished' will still consist of basic things like kitchen cabinets, stoves with hood, carpet, basic bathroom furniture, window blinds, Air-con & dishwasher (if you're lucky) etc....

Renting here is a world apart compared to back home, you'll subject to an inspection by the agent/owner about every 3 months, you'll have to clean the whole house before they inspect or else risk getting your bond deducted or even black listed.

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post May 9 2013, 04:09 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 9 2013, 04:05 PM)
You're right! Just came back from there last week. Rental is ridiculous! How to recoup, i also asking same question.
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Buy instead of rent, with the interest rates now record low, no point puting your $$ in term deposits.
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post May 9 2013, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 9 2013, 04:10 PM)
You're right! Need reference somemore!
Piece of advice, always take pics before moving in or signing anything coz my friend kena once on the house whereby there's defect which it's already there before they move in! End up have to pay!
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Haha, that's where your building inspection report comes into play when you first move in. You'll need to jot down every little defect in the report, and submit it to the agent. Make a copy of the report before you send if possible coz' mine never return a copy for me (by right they should). Lucky me
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post May 9 2013, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 9 2013, 04:16 PM)
Yeah, my last week trip actually went down to south perth looking for new house. It's damn beautiful and kinda cheap (land+house @ AUD350k)
Dollar to dollar, i think it's reasonable. Developer even give you special price on showunit and rent from you with return 8%. It's a bargain!
All you need to do is secure a job 1st, submit in 20% downpayment (to avoid stupid insurance cover banks which pay by you). Weekly repayment is lower than AUD500 and the house is yours.
But have to bear in mind that utility cost consist of council fees (AUD1000+), water annual fees (AUD900) which exclude monthly bills.
After calculate, your salary must at least hit AUD100K to live moderately.
Yeah, sounds nice but back to square one, MUST SECURE JOB 1ST!!!
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You're right mate! Mind telling which suburb you were looking? I was looking at Canning Vale, Harrisdale area but the accessibility is a problem if you need to drive to the city to work, heavy traffic. Unfortunately, the taxes here are getting higher & higher and utilities rates are increasing almost 6% every freaking year! I guess the only thing I can shout about is I get to save like $40k p.a together with my wife, but that's with no kids & mortgage.
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 9 2013, 04:44 PM)
I was looking at Canning Vale too. Went to their show village in southern river and newhaven piara waters. Even went to older places like Willeton, Bullcreek and Gosnell area. Houses is freaking beautiful and price is reasonable. Just that tax and transport is a problem.
Yeah, accessibility is a problem. My friend have to take bus like 1 hour to reach office. Driving is not advisable.
I did some research during my trip there and went to check on the bank loan. This downpayment thing is something have to think about. BAnk offers 90% loan but have to buy insurance to cover bank incase you can't pay. Actually that insurance pay for nothing! The best is save 20% for downpayment and get a house to avoid insurance.
South Perth got so many asians especially chinese and indians. Even got indian temple somemore which surprise me!
Well, i think above suburb is very nice.
Armadale is the worst, many Abo living there causing trouble.
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Buy a house near the train station & bus station, can save buying car (if you don't do road trips tongue.gif ). My banker advised me to play safe, take a maximum of 70% only, just in case if shit happens, you never know. I think medical & income insurance is very important, especially people like me starting a family. The only problem now is I have yet to have the amount for that 20-30% downpayment, not to mention others fees like stamp duty, settlement agent fees etc etc..... Avoid the subburbs in the east and south east, lots of goverment housing filled with Abos.
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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 9 2013, 05:22 PM)
You're right. But do bear in mind near train station also got those hinky panky people loitering around. I think, park your car there, take bus or train.
Your banker is right. In order to reduce the risk on the repayment issue, it's the safest but how many can fork out 20-30% downpayment??
My situation is that i have 2 kids here and yeah i have two condo units. Even i sell off 1 of the unit only can turn out like 15% only after conversion.
1st homebuyers (FHOG) got this AUD7k given by government which i think can settle lawyer fees. I think the agent fees can settle thru top up loan.
I think you case is much simpler than mine. now i need to scratch my head how to get job 1st, relocate children, looking for house...
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Don't choose a house right opposite the station lah, else you get the train to "wake" you up everyday sweat.gif A house within 10 minutes walking distance to any train/bus station will be just fine. You might also want to choose a house within reputable school zones, for e.g. in Perth high schools like Rossmoyne, Willetton & Applecross are one of the popular top schools here. You don't hire a lawyer here, we hire a Settlement Agent where he will do all the necessary submition of documents & fees, but they'll charge around $1500. Have a look below an example of the breakdown of the fees and charges:

v Purchase Price $939,000.00
v Our Standard Fee ($2,343.35 less 50.93% inc GST) $1,150.00 (Settlement agent fee)

Government Fees
v Stamp Duty $39,474.00 (4% of purchase price)
v Registration Fee $350.00
v Title Searches $84.00
v Water Corporation Enquiry Fees $41.35
v Approximate Local Authority Enquiry Fee $65.00
v Land Tax Enquiry Fee $35.00
v Clause 42 Enquiry Fee $25.00
v Approximate Landgate Fees $30.00
v Total GST on Disbursements $35.54

Disbursements
v Bank Cheque Fee $10.00
v Postage $25.00
v Telephone $25.00
v Photocopies and Miscellaneous $15.00

Total:980,364.89

You'll also have other optional things like building & pests inspection fees if you're not buying a brandnew property, which will costs you about $600.
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post May 10 2013, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 10 2013, 10:06 AM)
Great info you got there! Wow,900K house is very much expensive. I think i'll aim for 500k below. Stamp duty shall waive for 1st home buyer below that. While other fees i think is unavoidable. I think can use 7k to settle (based on FHOG scheme)
Yeah, school reputation affecting the property price nearby. Some rundown houses selling crazy price at 700-800k, CRAZY!!! rclxub.gif
I even went to Thornlie area saw a very lousy house. When i walked in, the house is like a garbage collection centre in KL. Agent told me that they got the new plan approved to tear down the house and rebuild in a 4 unit apartment. Price? Building cost AUD 1mil net. land price 370k.
Since i'm in construction, 1million is too expensive. the most is below 800k, agent and contractor wanna earn high profit like 40%??hmm...
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Haha, that's someone else's house, I just used it for example. The house is 700sqm, old but renovated with pool, in one of the high school zones mentioned. Building costs here is very different from Malaysia, for one you can't just simply hire a few bangla and do it, lots of rules and red tapes. Wages are one of the highest. One tip, since you say you're in the construction line. If you can't find a job after sometime, self-employ as a tradie here(blue collar jobs), I know a certified plumber here earns easily $150k p.a.
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post May 10 2013, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(Nemesis1980 @ May 10 2013, 11:36 AM)
Hmm...good idea. Will consider that. Yeah, getting bangla is a problem. That's why DIAC restrict skilled labour for giving opportunity to locals. This could maintain their salary without underpay.

I know welder is a high pay blue collar job. I knew a welder who work in Ozzie earning like AUD200k/pa while driving Mercedes. Damn, I don't care if working under the sun or wat, if the money is good, why not?

Ozzie construction industry is totally different from here. I went to their site on the new houses, saw very little people working and took 8mths to complete 'a' house. This is very slow progress. I know Ozzie is a laid back country and this is the culture i guess. Can't complain.
My plan is maybe buy a land and build a house of my own. But land price is totally expensive now. Southern River cost like 250k-300k @ 500sqm.
If include building cost budgeting 250k, i think you'll get lower price from buying from developer. At least you can save like 10%.
Developer try to attract buyers with gimmicks which i don't think attractive enough coz those appliances or whatsoever item you get cheaper in the market.
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I know a Singaporean couple who bought land & build the house themselves without signing up a package with a builder. At the end of the day, they told me it's not worth it as it just takes up too much time, took him 2 years from start to end the of the day he got the keys & CF officially. If you really want to save, buy a land yourself, sign-up a package with a builder, try not to change the layout from the original design as you will incur extra costs for any changes. In this way you get goodies like kitchen appliances & centralised A/C which is good & useful. On top of that, you get builder's warranty which usually go up to 10-20 years, warranty is transferable so if you sell less than say 20 years you can sell for more.

A typical house takes around 10-12 months to build from the ground here.

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