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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries v2, Loan agents pls read the 1st post!

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post May 22 2014, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(tarany02 @ May 22 2014, 01:48 PM)
Alright thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Looks like i can't afford a house in KL smile.gif
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Doesnt have to be KL no? My client just bought a house in the Selangor area for 200k! It was an apartment of 950+ sq feet.

In kota damansara there are apartments going for 220k as well.

Also do you have bonuses? That would increase your income quite considerably

QUOTE(happyhealthy @ May 22 2014, 01:55 PM)
is DSR 80% too optimistic?
some told me the maximum DSR is only 40%.
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Oh no, that would be the front-end DSR. In some banks, they have this thing called front-end DSR and back-end DSR.

1) Front-end DSR is the commitment for the loan you are applying (say, RM525k, so the commitment is roughly RM2400 a month) vs your net slaary of RM12680. 2400 / 12680 = 19%. In short, the front-end DSR is the new commitment over the net salary.

2) Now the back-end DSR is the one that includes the new commitment for the new loan, plus the old commitments, and divided by all your net income, of which yours is still within the 80% back-end DSR

Some banks do utilize the front-end DSR calculation AND back-end DSR calculation. Other banks only utilize the back-end DSR calculation. But thank you for notifying me, I will update the illustration to make sure people know that it is referring to back-end only

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post May 31 2014, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ May 22 2014, 02:29 PM)
Are u sure Maybank cash out portion up to 35 years? As I know only up to 10 years only!  shocking.gif
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You know what? My mistake! Maybank has limited its top up and cash out to 10 years only.

The ones I can really confirm now are Bank Islam, OCBC, Alliance, and AIA (not a bank)...

Thank you for the notice!

QUOTE(ALaN- @ May 31 2014, 09:28 AM)
Faiz, you've done a good job for my loan approval. I strongly recommend all the buyer to seek for a knowledgeable and responsive mortgage banker / agent. I've previously mess up my loan application because of sky & heaven promises by the previous agent and bankers though we're pretty confident with our DSR and clean record of ccris & ctos from my previous property.

Faiz will try whatever possible way to increase the chances for your loan approval, which we did with him and we manage to get it approve though. Not bad that even if it's midnight, he did his homework for me too.

You deserve a thumbs up from me, thanks ya!
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Thank you Alan. It's my job and I did my best for my client's benefits. I am glad you are happy with my service!
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post Jun 3 2014, 04:04 AM

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QUOTE(zmt @ Jun 2 2014, 12:13 PM)
Hello all,

This is my situation, I have a house, recently completed, fully paid, with the title in my name, valued at 140K. I need a loan for 50K for home renovation.

No proof of income, pasar malam, small time business here and there.

Anybody got ideas, drop me a PM. we can discuss further. Btw, I am in Kulim, Kedah. Prefer solution providers from Penang, or Sg Petani or near about.

Thanks.
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If you havent declared your income tax, you could set up a company and pay yourself through that. In simple terms, you are working for the company you own, and that your income is in the form of a salary paid to yourself.

QUOTE(Neodammerung @ Jun 2 2014, 07:56 PM)
Hi bankers. I would like to enquire if its possible to apply for a home loan based on my current situation. I have been employed with a government agency this past year and half, and have just left my job at the end of may and I'm starting at a new private company from 2nd june onwards. I have my latest 3 months salary slip from previous employment as well as Offer Letter from new/current employer. Will that be enough for me to apply for a home loan? Ofcourse, I also have supporting documents EA forms etc.

I was told by a banker friend that the bank requires three months latest salary slip from current employer therefor I wont be able to apply for a loan now. Any truth to this?

Also, Im only interested in applying for a 50% loan as the other 50% will be paid as downpayment.

thanks!
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There are a couple of ways to go about this, but I'll discuss the more legal method:

1. The documents required to prove your income with your new employment would only be:

a) 3 months payslip backed by a bankstatement/epfstatement with the old company
b) A letter of employment with the new company complete with the remuneration spelled out (salary, fixed allowances)
c) At least a single month payslip with the new company backed with the bankstatement (epf statement not recommended because there will be a delay in the deposit of employee's EPF contribution)

2. Alternatively... of which I do not recommend but I have heard do-able that... err... I'd rather not put this in public but it is not that difficult to imagine is it? Especially since for some banks, the only income documents you would need are:

a) EA form 2013
b) EPF statement 2013 and 2014

OR

a) Latest 3 months payslip, lastest month as of now being May (usable until July 6th)
b) Bank statement OR EPF statement to tally with the payslips

This is a gray area, not something you should do.
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post Jun 3 2014, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(zmt @ Jun 3 2014, 02:30 PM)
I am thinking on this area as well, but setup an enterprise and hire my wife as an employee. Not sure what other documents would a bank need, KWSP? payslip etc....and how many months of bank statement, kwsp statements would be needed.
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There are ways to work around this. But some banks will not care if you have paid KWSP or cut off the PCB or not.

Its perfectly legal to pay your wife through that sole prop, and we can use her 3 months payslip backed by bank statement to help. I have helped a lot of my clients with this situation before.

You can call me and we can discuss this in private, but if you want to ask the questions here I can answer them for every one to benefit from it smile.gif

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QUOTE(terenceloo90 @ Jun 6 2014, 09:50 AM)
Hi all bankers, i have a question here. If i am interested to purchase a new property cost 600k (around 580 near 600). May i know how much min salary per month in order to qualified for the loan ?. Besides that, another alternative would be joint applicant or guarantor right? Please advise more information on this both alternatives. Thank you smile.gif
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Hi, based on my calculation, if you only have a credit card, but always pay off your balance (recommended to build your credit history), and no other commitments, you can buy such a house based on a 90% Margin-of Financing loan by having a gross salary of: RM4800

However, if you have any other commitments, you would require a higher amount of income to counter the commitment

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post Jun 6 2014, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(terenceloo90 @ Jun 6 2014, 10:27 AM)
Hi yeah thanks for your information. Currently i only have credit card with no other commitment. But my salary has not reach the min yet. So another alternatives would be joint name or guarantor? Would u explain some details on both of the alternatives? Such as joint name must be marriage?
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biggrin.gif sorry forgot to answer the rest of your questions sweat.gif sweat.gif

No other commitments? GOOOOD! Only have a credit card? GOOOOOD! Your credit history must be perfect, as long as your pay at least the minimum balance of your card every month, or settle the balance every month.

Now to answer your other questions:

1. You can do either a joint name or a guarantor, no problem.

2. For joint name, it can be: spouse, children, parent, parents in law, siblings, siblings in law, fiance/fiancee. For joint name, both applicants' income AND commitments will be pooled together and the loan eligibility will be calculated. If your joint-borrower has more commitment than income, might as well dont join the name biggrin.gif . If you have a girl/boy friend, the banks can consider that as a fiance/fiancee too. Cool?

3. For guarantor, most banks are not too keen to do guarantorship, however if you must, it has to be your closest relatives: parents, children, spouse, and siblings only. For guarantorship, different banks have different ways to calculate the income. One bank I know of will only consider the guarantor's income but not the commitments (but this bank will require the guarantor to have up to 2 housing loans already) while other banks may include the guarantor's income as well as commitments.



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QUOTE(terenceloo90 @ Jun 6 2014, 10:50 AM)
I see.. thanks for very detailed information azmi!... so based on the calculation you posted.. others allowance such as shift allowance or other allowance would takes into consideration too? Such that include those allowance, my income would reach 4.8k..
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Of course!

But each of the allowances and extra income has the bank's own internal adjustments applied to it. So if you want me to include those, please give me the gross amount and I will help you with the calculation!
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QUOTE(terenceloo90 @ Jun 6 2014, 11:09 AM)
Alright, here u go biggrin.gif

Base income : rm 4.5k
Allowance : rm 800
Other allowance / 3 month : 380 avg
1 month contractual bonus (13 month salary scheme)

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Is the allowance of RM800 fixed? If yes, ok.

I have removed the 3 month allowance of RM380avg just to be safe, because I dont really know what it is without looking at your payslip

The 1 month bonus is included in the calculation.

Her you go. Let me know if you want to keep it private? smile.gif

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post Jun 6 2014, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(terenceloo90 @ Jun 6 2014, 11:26 AM)
Thats really detailed calculation! and yeah the allowance is fixed permonth biggrin.gif.
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Cool. Let me know if you need help with the application. I have 6 banks under my care, it's a one-stop service.

Also if you have friends and family who are looking for the best mortgage service, well you can tell them what you discovered today.

Have a goooooood weekend!
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QUOTE(terenceloo90 @ Jun 6 2014, 11:37 AM)
Alright! sure azmi! i'll keep you posted once i visit the property showroom next week biggrin.gif thanks for your great effort and help!
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Cool, by the way there is a disclaimer ya to the calculation. I have been doing this for years and I always get it right, but approval/rejection of your loan can depend on many factors. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terenceloo90 @ Jun 6 2014, 11:37 AM)
Alright! sure azmi! i'll keep you posted once i visit the property showroom next week biggrin.gif thanks for your great effort and help!
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Just thought that I'd let you all know that I can do the following banks directly, for both Islamic and Conventional:

a) Maybank
b) OCBC (guarantor scheme available)
c) Alliance (guarantor scheme available)
d) Ambank

And I have a league of other bankers who I chose to help me with these banks for both Islamic and Conventional:

a) RHB
b) CIMB
c) Bank Islam
d) Public Bank
e) HSBC
f) Hong Leong

I hope I can be all of your one-stop center for your mortgage needs. I will serve all of you just as well as I am serving the rest of you on this forum, by sharing my know-how interms of mortgage and other financial planning needs.

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QUOTE(Ascendant @ Jun 7 2014, 07:20 PM)
Hi bankers,

I'll like a mortgage loan of RM630,000 for a RM700,000 apartment in Subang Jaya. But my commitments may be rather high (pls see below).

Income
Basic salary: RM5,000 per month
Fixed allowance: RM300 per month
Dividend from Hong Kong and Singapore stocks: average of RM1,500 per month
Total gross income: RM6800
(bonus not fixed, but it's RM787 per month)

Current commitments
Home loan: RM1485 per month (original loan amount RM315,000)
Car loan: RM460 per month (original loan amount RM40,000)
Credit card:  Fully paid every month
Total commitments: RM1945

Please PM me if your bank is still able to offer me a loan. And kindly include details like interest rate, tenure, contact details, etc. Thanks!
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Hello!

Is there any other income? Rental income perhaps? And what is the outstanding balance of the housing loan?
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 8 2014, 07:17 PM)
If pay only min amount for CC every month, how will the CCRIS, CTOS affect the loan approval?
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It will still look good on your CCRIS as in you will not have a late payment. But the outstanding balance will be reflected in your record and the CC commitment will be calculated as 5%of the CC balance
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QUOTE(zodd @ Jun 9 2014, 12:17 AM)
I'm thinking of refinancing my house. Anyone know what the rate given by these banks?
Maybank
CIMB
OCBC

My house still have RM192k balance. and the current value is RM500k. If I wanna do cash out option, which bank that still haven't start the 10 years tenure capped option.

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Hello, so far, these are the 3 banks that I know off that allow the borrowers to repay their cash-out portion in 35 years:

OCBC
Alliance
Bank Islam


The rates depend on your credit score as assessed by the bank.

I can do these 3 banks as well as Maybank and Ambank directly as a Mortgage Broker. Please let me know if you are in need of my services.

Thank you.

QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 8 2014, 07:14 PM)
Will ya push the bank that give u highest commission to client even though its not at the best interest of customer?
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The commissions received are the same from each bank, and you are misunderstanding the purpose of a broker. A broker carries so many banks to provide solutions to the clients as not all banks have the same terms, rates, and calculations of the net income and commitments. As such, by approaching the broker, one could see solutions from multiple angles than by going to just a single bank officer.

Any other brilliant questions MNet? You seem to be very interested biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 9 2014, 07:20 PM)
If I dont declare the cc debt upon apply the loan, will the bank find out?
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They will find out not just your CC debt, but all of your debts in the form of their:

1. Type of debt (hire purchase, term, property, personal, CC)
2. Original loan amount
3. Outstanding balance (your CC o/s balance will be stated here, unless you fully settle your CC statement every month)
4. Repayment records

QUOTE(chchew90 @ Jun 9 2014, 02:37 PM)
Hi, I want to know whether I can buy this property or not:

Salary: RM3667 (Net, w/o EPF/SOCSO/Income Tax deduction)
Property: 350K - 400K (second hand condo/apartment)
Commitment: Car Loan (RM574) and PTPTN loan
Credit Card: full payment every month

May I know is it I only can buy property below 400K or I can buy property above 400K?

Thanks.
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Hello, you can get around this much, as long as your loan repayment record is good. So at RM330k loan, your property price should be about RM366k.

Do you have any bonuses, dividends, and other fixed allowances? Those can increase your net income thus increasing your maximum loan amount:

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QUOTE(chchew90 @ Jun 10 2014, 08:52 AM)
Hi, thanks for the detailed information. Currently I have no any bonuses, dividends and other fixed allowances.
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If no other income, my calculation posted earlier could very well reflect your current situation smile.gif It's not bad, although you may need to lower your target house price to RM360k.
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QUOTE(THT @ Jun 12 2014, 02:17 AM)
Hi , banker

2013 BE - total 86,000
Tax 2013 -5500
A.) 2014 nett income

Basic Salary - 6800
Fixed Allowance -1050

Total 7850

EPF -750
PCB -750

Nett income = 7350

( years bonus estimate is 10k & I am one of director in my company )

B.) Commitment

Home loan -(joint name ) 600
Personal loan ( RHB )  -500 
Credit card ( Citibank ) -800
Credit card ( Uob ) -700

Total commitment  2600

Currently I am 34 years old .
I plan get my second and third house for investment purpose . any one can calculate max loan for my salary ?
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Hello,

Can you share with me you outstanding balance for the home loan (joiunt name) and credit cards?

Also please share the original loan amount for the personal loans.

I will need these information to accurately calculate your maximum loan amount based on your salary and commitments

QUOTE(chchew90 @ Jun 12 2014, 11:55 AM)
Yes, RM360K is ok for me as I have targeted some house around this price. Thanks.
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No problem. Let me know when you have paid the booking fees, I will help you with the best loan offer available as a mortgage broker.

THanks.
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QUOTE(THT @ Jun 13 2014, 10:02 PM)
Outstanding
Home loan -100 k (250k)
Personal -15k (20k)
Credit card -15k
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Hello, thanks to your low credit utilization, it is safe to say that you can borrow this much:

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QUOTE(Kazachok @ Jun 15 2014, 01:20 PM)
Hi. Need a quote.

Been working for 2 years. Just into my first month of new job and looking to buy a property priced at 430k. Question - is it possible to get a 90-95% loan based on my first month income of 4800? If taking into account previous gross salary of 3500, surely not sufficient.

Gross income: 4800
Rental income: 800
Property instalment: 400
No HP. Credit card 4k outstanding.

Also currently awaiting refinance process of the first property to be completed. Everything signed already.
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Based on my calculation, due to your low credit utilization, you can get the loan you want subject to approval by the credit controller.

But to answer your other questions:

1. It is possible to calculate based on the new job's salary provided you have at least 1 month salary and attach a letter of appointment with your new salary stated in the letter.

2. As for refinancing... once the new financing has taken place, the calculation wil be different. So you better act fast before the refinancing is reflected into your CCRIS that the other new banks will see when you are ready to refinance.

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QUOTE(lus999 @ Jun 16 2014, 11:00 AM)
Hi, can any bankers advise me if i have a freelance job with income rm2k per month. Is this also can include as DSR? I have another permanent job with a private company more than 5 years. Tks.
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As long as there is a supporting documents to prove the income then you are good to go. Supporting documents can be in the form of EA form, Borang B/BE, payslips and differ from bank to bank.

QUOTE(lus999 @ Jun 16 2014, 11:59 AM)
If fixed only the payslip will do? Can you recommend which bank will treat as full? Tks.
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Most banks will treat these income as full if you can show the payslips and money banked into your account (bank statement). Some banks like OCBC can take the EPF statement in lieu of the bank statement, while Maybank will insist on the client providing the EPF statement.

I can do a number of banks local and foreign including OCBC, Maybank, Ambank, Alliance and have a strong network with other capable bankers like the ones from RHB, CIMB, HLB, Bank Islam and more. If you think my service is good, I can help you connect with these other bankers that I have specifically chosen to serve my customers. In a way I can provide you with a one-stop mortgage service.

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Jun 16 2014, 11:06 PM)
Any banker can advise which bank can accept the following profile for housing loan

Going to Purchase Apt at Price RM180K (equivalent to MV)
Loan *70% = RM126K (5th properties)

Income
RM4150 (nett/gov servant) + Rental/TA RM1300+RM1150 = RM6600.00 nett

Debt
HL1 (59K) - RM373
HL1A (62K) - RM625
HL2 (109K)- RM508
HL3 (280K) - RM1350
HL4 (86K) - RM459
Total (RM596K) - RM3315

CC - RM0
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Hi, just to be clear, can you provide me the gross salary and any fixed allowance available?

Also for the commitments, are the numbers in the brackets the original loan amount or the current outstanding balance?

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