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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries v2, Loan agents pls read the 1st post!

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post Aug 15 2018, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 15 2018, 05:42 PM)
Doesn't make sense, as you pay down every month on your principal, you should pay lesser interest and more towards the principal amount.

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Insurance agent,

This is not necessarily true, you have to factor in the dates and number of days of interest payable. Please read my explanation below

QUOTE(altism @ Aug 15 2018, 05:48 PM)
lifebalance thanks bro for responding.

That's what is happening, which I am seeing. Not from the calculator you have shared to me before but the real case.

Paid xxxx amount for principle on 6th, 12th and 16th July. However, when comes July installment in the beg. of Aug, more goes to interest compared to the installment in the beg. of July. Does that makes sense? The only thing is July had 1 extra day complared to June. That's it.

Thanks.
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Okay this makes sense, especially if you factor in the differences between the number of days, thus affecting the number days interest is chargeable before your next installment. If you show the loan statement I can calculate for you why the interest increased from one month to another

Basically the calculation for interest payable is
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interest-rate/365 x principal-outstanding x number of days of the month before next installment

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post Aug 15 2018, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(altism @ Aug 15 2018, 06:11 PM)
Thank you wild_card_my lifebalance. No harm sharing. I can remove PC details and send it across no biggie. Problem is, Mr. Rashid hasn't been sending me statements for quite some time now that I am looking into it.

I am calculating this from the online banking site. Meaning after every installment, the principle reduce slightly, you deduct that amount that has reduced, you know everything else has went to interest from your installment that month. That's what I am seeing.
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The interest is paid first, so during the days there are more days, the interest chargeable is higher than the days where there less days, thus your principal repayment from the installment is also reduced.

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 15 2018, 06:13 PM)
I see okay, will wait for your statement then

@ FSPOSMD, mind ur own business
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post Aug 15 2018, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(altism @ Aug 15 2018, 06:22 PM)
Sorry gentlemen. Not sure what the feud is but as an outsider, I see the both of you really compliment each other in this forum in terms of knowledge. Maybe find ways to work with each other instead of against? Just saying.
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Hey, no biggie. Im just poking him here and there. This is how people learn; agents/bankers have come and go from this thread all the time, including ourselves. It's all just fun and games, a banter, so to speak. Don't worry about it. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 23 2018, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(sosobear @ Aug 20 2018, 10:19 AM)
hi wild card,

i just want to add on some points between the two packages. Flexi loan also benefits salaried employee. while i agree your last point that the RM10 can be simply offset by higher deposit, flexi give provides  a peace of mind

- statement is monthly i/o half yearly
- salary day you can deposit in full, and minus any expenses from the account thereafter. This will immediately offset the interest. unlike semi, i’ll need to set aside a contingency fund, not allowing me to credit salary in full as it will incurred withdrawal charges.
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1. For the statement you can check your online banking and get the figures

2. To each his own. Most people that I know of do not utilize the full-flexiness to its fullest extent. Can't argue against preferences
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post Aug 28 2018, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(LTL93 @ Aug 28 2018, 02:05 PM)
Hi, I wish to apply for housing loan, is this the right place to post? If yes, any loan agent here can help?
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Yes you are at the right place. What type of applcication is it going to be?

1. refinance
2. subsale
3. underconstruction?

Are you currently working or running a business?
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post Aug 28 2018, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(LTL93 @ Aug 28 2018, 02:15 PM)
For subsale

And I am salaried employee
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These are the basic documents required for subsale application, joint-applicants to provide as well:

PERSONAL DOCUMENTS
- NRIC front-back (do not cross)

PROPERTY DOCUMENTS
- Booking form provided by agent
- Relevant pages of current-owner's SPA
- Individual/strata title (if available)

EMPLOYMENT/CONTRACTUAL DOCUMENTS
- 3/6 months payslip (6 months for commission earners)
- 3/6 months bank statement
- Latest EPF statement
- 2 years EA form (for bonus calculation)
- Job letter offer (for new employees)

OTHER INCOME DOCUMENTS
- Stamped and valid tenancy agreements (for rental income)
- 6 months Bank statement (to verify rental income)
- Investment passbook/statement (for ASB, unit trusts, Tabung Haji)

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QUOTE(LTL93 @ Aug 28 2018, 02:32 PM)
Currently, dont have property doc yet, come back to you once i gt them

But, not to show here right?
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Dont show here. The ideal way of doing this is to choose someone to help you with the process. You can go directly to the banks, approach a mortgage broker, or ask an insurance agent to help you for your mortgage application

The person helping you will ask for all the documents and information from you including the documents that i have listed above

Since it is a subsale, and you have paid the booking fees, time is of the essence

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Aug 28 2018, 10:04 PM)
hi all...may i check if local banks like PBB and MBB offers flexi loan? as i heard today new loans offered by banks, typically they require you to have a minimum amount outstanding and does not allow you to clear as much of the loan as possible...

last time banks like HSBC and Citibank offers flexiloan where you can just deposit and withdraw money as you like... so that was really flexi and convenient...

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they do. both full and semi-flexi. Some even have hybrid- OD+term loans

QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Aug 28 2018, 10:22 PM)
For semi flexi, is it long to wait for the money to deposit back to savings account? if within 1 week, i think still very ok...

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You mean for a withdrawal? yes it will take a few days upon request
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QUOTE(dizzymon @ Sep 2 2018, 10:44 AM)
Hi I also wanted to apply Home loan.
Is a sub sale house.
I am a salary man.
Since this is my first home.
Can you list out some of the benefits i am entitle.?
I have the house title, pay slip, EA, and EPF ready
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1. Noticed you mentioned you have the documents ready, but for reference, these are the documents that you would need:

PERSONAL DOCUMENTS
- NRIC front-back (do not cross)

PROPERTY DOCUMENTS
- Booking form provided by agent
- Relevant pages of current-owner's SPA
- Individual/strata title (if available)

EMPLOYMENT/CONTRACTUAL DOCUMENTS
- 3/6 months payslip (6 months for commission earners)
- 3/6 months bank statement
- Latest EPF statement
- 2 years EA form (for bonus calculation)
- Job letter offer (for new employees)

2. Benefits for a first time home buyer:

a. Exemption of up to RM5,000 stamp duty on the SPA if the house is cheaper than RM500,000
b. Exemption of up to RM1,500 stamp duty on the Loan Agreement if the house is cheaper than RM500,000
c. It is possible to get 100% loan margin if you want to

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Sep 2 2018, 02:50 PM)
My I know why NRIC cannot cross? What if potential abuse on the NRIC?
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Usually people cross it wrongly, so I would just ask them no to cross. Some banks stipulations about crossing them. For example, the crosses cannot be "printed" and has to be "inked/using-ballpen". So if the clients cross ahead of time before sending them over, the print out for the "cross" will appear printed.

Of course, this doesn't happen if the documents are sent in person, where the cross can happen live and with the proper wording like lifebalance have mentioned.

On that note, some people put there "for bank's use only" which doesn't protect them from other uses.
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QUOTE(addison250 @ Sep 13 2018, 11:38 AM)
Hi, would like to know about commercial loan (shop lot), which bank offer good rate for shops?

Any agent can PM me.
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Rate that I have come across go as low as 4.55%, tenure limited to 25 years
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QUOTE(itv_mark5 @ Sep 17 2018, 10:11 PM)
Hi all,

I've just managed to cleared off my ptptn tunggakan with my epf account 2 due to supporting family issues in the past. I now have a stable job that i've been working for the past 6 months & was wondering if i wanted to apply for a home loan, should i wait untill12 months later where the crisis record is good?
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No need, if you have cleared the PTPTN outstanding, just get a letter from PTPTN it can be these:

1. Ujrah letter, saying that have changed the term of the financing
2. Outstanding clearance letter, saying that you have made the clearance

Attach these letters along with your applicaiton
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QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Sep 24 2018, 11:27 AM)
Hi guys, just a quick question about housing loan.

Currently I have almost fully paid off my current house (still under bank but since it's semi-flexi, I have overpaid all except for RM200 left in the loan amount).

I'm looking to purchase another house (2nd hand one) which worth about 100k more than my current one. So shall I applied for a new loan for the new house? Or refinance my current house and pay cash for the house to be purchased? For info, i'm planning to let go my current house once the "new" house is ready as don't want to commit to any loan.

Thanks

p/s - both the houses are leasehold and located at the same area, in case it's relevant smile.gif
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Just apply for a new loan for the new house. The issues with refinancing is the 10-year limit when calculating your commitment for the cash-out. You may end up having to apply for a "purchase" mortgage after all if the cash-out portion approvedis not enough

QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Sep 24 2018, 12:45 PM)
Thanks for the advice. Ya sounds like better to apply for a new loan since it's more clear cut later when selling the old house.

May I know what will be the loan procedure of buying a 2nd hand house? Do I look for the SPA lawyer first before asking for the loan? And using the same SPA lawyer for the loan agreement? Or it's the other way round?

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You would need some documents including the ones below. But most importantly is that you have the booking form and SPA/title (if already issued) for you to start with the application. Once the loan is approved then you can start with the legal work (SPA) and eventually LA

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PERSONAL DOCUMENTS
- NRIC front-back (do not cross)

PROPERTY DOCUMENTS
- Booking form provided by agent
- Relevant pages of current-owner's SPA
- Individual/strata title (if available)

EMPLOYMENT/CONTRACTUAL DOCUMENTS
- 3/6 months payslip (6 months for commission earners)
- 3/6 months  bank statement
- Latest EPF statement
- 2 years EA form (for bonus calculation)
- Job letter offer (for new employees)

OTHER INCOME DOCUMENTS
- Stamped and valid tenancy agreements (for rental income)
- 6 months Bank statement (to verify rental income)
- Investment passbook/statement (for ASB, unit trusts, Tabung Haji)


QUOTE(lowyat101 @ Sep 24 2018, 01:40 PM)
OK. Is it possible to know what's the maximum loan amount I can get for that particular house? What are the info needed for the bank to assess this value?
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Details to check property value

Name:
Full address:
Type of property:
Built-up area:
Land area if applicable:
Renovations/extensions done to the property
Cost of renovations/extensions:
Expected market/price/asking price:

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QUOTE(alfred liew @ Sep 25 2018, 03:01 PM)
Hi Bro, i have a house in Kuching and would like to check if you are able to advise the market value tongue.gif
the reason is i am intending to cash out to pay for 30% down payment of the house i am intending to buy.
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Kuching all the way across the narrow seas? Unfortunately I do not do Sabah-Sarawak. Don't have valuer contact there as well. I advice approaching a Kuching-based banker
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QUOTE(AmeiN @ Sep 25 2018, 03:09 PM)
Want to share my boss managed to buy her first house using epf money. Just need to pay 1% booking deposit. Other payment pay after epf withdrawal. So those who dont have enough cash on hand but enough money inside epf can do like this.

Maybe not the best option. biggrin.gif
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It is a fine solution. Just need to make sure that all parties agree to it (vendor/developer as well as buyer). I spoke about it here: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry85106040

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 25 2018, 04:22 PM)
Sorry I don't do property in east malaysia. Best to sort out with the local banker there
You can do so provided the seller allow her to pay the remaining balance using EPF money which means the seller will not get the remaining 9% upon signing of the SPA.

Less secure for the selller in this case, but if they're willing to take the risk then it's fine
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Insurance agent,

It is not less secure, as the S&P still have to be signed and stamped before the EPF withdrawal can be made. If the buyer backs away from the sale they would still be liable to pay the 10% to the seller as part of the non-refundable deposit.

I have covered this before when you mistook the EPF withdrawal process as per below:

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 25 2018, 05:52 PM)
basically the person can still abort the SPA and you can only hold unto 1% deposit. Buyer won't feel any burden financially to abort the purchase anytime compared to 10% downpayment paid.
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Insurance agent,

Because the S&P is stamped, it can still be brought to court for the seller to claim the remaining 9%. 1% of 500k is still 5k and since the purchaser has to pay the legal fees and loan cancellation penalty if he has already signed those, it is as good as secured. Plus from my experience, for subsales the vendors would not stoop to something as low as 1%, only developers would. The normal figures are 3-5%.

Now if we were to follow your logic, in normal transactions (without using EPF as the downpayment) the purchasers would feel less secured then, as the sellers are holding their 10% (after S&P signed) of which in the event of an abortion of the transaction the purchaser too has a right to the 10% return of the deposit.

A year ago you are not even aware of EPF withdrawal to pay part of the 10% deposit, now you are the expert

QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 30 2017, 12:38 PM)
Should be okay since she's orang asli

as for EPF 2nd account, you can only withdraw the money after you sign the SNP which means you can't use it as part of the downpayment.

Meaning if you intend to buy a 500k property, you have to come out with the 10% 50k down payment first then only later on you can show the signed SNP and withdraw back the 50k from ur account 2.
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QUOTE(fizz90 @ Sep 20 2018, 11:00 AM)
Hi guys, I would like to ask few questions :

1) If I inherit a property (with SPA under my name), im not eligible to benefit from  stamp duty exemption and first home scheme that pays 100% for loan?
2) MRTA is at least needed for housing loan? asked a maybank financial consultant and she said at least 5 years is enough

thanks in advance
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1. As for the stamp duty exemption, the answer that I got from the lawyers are:

Since your name has already been recorded to have a property (documents are sent to LHDN for stamping), you would not be eligible for the stamp duty exemption

2. As for the MRTA, banks are not allowed to force their customers to take MRTA when applying for a mortgage, but the banks have the right to increase the interest rates of the loan that they are offering you. Not all banks do this though, for example, HLBB does not increase their 4.55% rate during this promotion period.

QUOTE(alfred liew @ Sep 25 2018, 06:32 PM)
Thanks for the advice but i am not living in Kuching currently.
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Are you based in Klang Valley then? And making a purchase for properties in Kuching?

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QUOTE(Wolffer @ Sep 26 2018, 05:29 PM)
My wife is now considering to rebuild her house which she lost during a fire 3 years ago. She just completed her land ownership transfer last year and also started a you char kuey stall last year as well.

Reason to rebuild:
1. Landed property (nearer to her stall, convenient for parents & grandparents.)
2. Need space to place cooking equipment & dough mixer (Large)
3. Ideal location middle of Petaling Jaya.

Our concern is :

1. Rebuild house is treated as 1st house purchase or refinance?
2. Business only been around for 1 year & 5 mths, just done her first year business income tax.
3. How difficult is it to get a loan to rebuild a house?
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1. You can apply for land + construction loan. But the documents are quite strict. You would need to have an approved plan ready in most cases. The financing will cover both the financing of the land and construction of the building.

2. 1 year tax is OK, but wished the business (with SSM right?) has been around for longer than 2 years

3. As per 1. It can be difficult in the form of the documents required:

a. approved plan by majlis and/or architech's board (Depending on the bank)
b. contractor details
c. land title (i assume she has her name on the title)
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QUOTE(emmawlc @ Sep 28 2018, 11:37 AM)
Sorry to ask, My OD (overdraft) is 500k,I receive last month Aug statement shown 100k (Dr - Debit). This means the remaining 400k is the available balance that I still can use 400k, right? Sorry, I am new to OD.
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If I am not wrong, overdraft account statement is similar to credit card statement. In that when you borrow from the bank, the statement will show it as debit; and when you repay the bank, it would show as credit. So in this case, you debited RM100,000, and there should be another RM400k available for you to borrow

To confirm, it would be best if I can read the statement.

QUOTE(Wolffer @ Sep 26 2018, 05:38 PM)

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1. Not all banks offer land+construction. But it should not matter as you would need to re-apply for a new financing anyway

2. 1 year plus is quite young, but it can be done. Best to wait for 2 year SSM though

3. Yeap, draft it and get it approved. These are some of the documents required. No guarantees of approval though

Alternatively, you can just do a "land financing". The rate is a little higher and the margin is lower too, but since the land is no encumbered (no loans attached to the land), then all the money you receive from the financing can be used to build the house

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