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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries v2, Loan agents pls read the 1st post!

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post Sep 28 2018, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(BladeRider @ Sep 28 2018, 02:35 PM)
which bank should I try to get housing loan? which requirements are lower?

1) low basic salary  3k plus
2) high annual bonus +- 80k after deduct tax
3) no other commitment (can be bad cause no record)
4) apply for 570+ k  loan
Tried to contact PB but only can get <70% of the house price.
RHB and maybank not approve as they only review the basic income, bonus not count

CIMB no respond yet
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1. This is gross or net? If net you are doing OK, but if gross you are better off with banks that can give maximum 60% debt-service ratio (which is the max BNM allowed for this salary range). Some banks give max of 40% or wont do the financing at all (AlRajhi for example) due to the salary being below guideline

2. Okay high annual bonus is a big plus. With this bonus figure, you can ignore point (1). You can go with any banks that would consider 80% of your bonus as income provided that you have documents to backup the bonus (2 year EA and bonus slip)

3. No record. Erm.. I successfully got 90% margin of financing for clients who has no CCRIS record. I used graduate schemes, need to back this up with transcript and degree

4. 570k? Do able. How old are you?
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post Sep 28 2018, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(BladeRider @ Sep 28 2018, 02:47 PM)
i'm asking this question on behalf of my friend. so I will continue to answer as the first person, easier,
This year I got 30 months bonus. As an assistant manager of plantation industrial.
The amount of the bonus are based on the profit of the previous year (the branch profit i working in)

Last year I can't recall how much, probably 12-18 months as I'm still new here.

And the year before 6months (work less than a year after probation)

Working in this company for 3 years.   3years + in previous company.
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High bonus employees are still ok if they can prove long term viability of the bonuses. I have done employees who has received big bonuses before (SP Setia), granted it is great GLC.

6 to 18 months are considerably high but some companies purposely give low salary but high bonueses (Singapore Airlines steward) and banks will consider that case by case, epecially if you ahve supporting documents like I mentioned:

1. EA from the same company for multiple years to reveal consistency of bonuses
2. Savings

edit: To whom it may concern, for the purpose of sharing information on the ground, it is ok to reveal what I do for a living. You can report my posts as many times as you want, but experience on actual application process and results are important. Without experience, the advisers are prone to make simple mistakes like you have done before, for example, not knowing that you can withdraw EPF for the purpose of paying the 10% deposit when purchasing a house. This is a simple method that everyone in the industry (mortgage and real-estate) would know which you apparently did not know perhaps due to inexperience. So I am sharing my experience as a person who is currently working in the industry.

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post Sep 29 2018, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Sep 28 2018, 10:06 PM)
What is the lowest rate for 70% financing and below? Asking around ... best is 4.4% I can get ....
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Financing rate depends on the loan amount. Granted, a 70% margin is low-risk to the bank due the customer having to pay 30% for the property, the rate is heavily attached to the loan amount.

QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Sep 29 2018, 01:42 AM)
Dear Experts,

Wanna ask.. For pure Commission earner

Latest 6months income as below:
1)April-18,398.42
2)May-10,735
3)June-8,455
4)July-15,912.50
5)August-15100
6)September-10592

Rental income per month RM2950. Ccris no problem.

How much can get loan ya..  ? Can buy property up to how much..  Work less than 6months.

Bank consider income as 50% or 100% in this case?
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Do you have any other commitments? If no, here it is. Also assuming that you are younger than 35 years old. Most banks will consider 80% of your monthly average for the variable as well as rental income; while some banks will only consider 50%. In the calculation below I am using 80%

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post Sep 29 2018, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Sep 29 2018, 02:08 AM)
Thanks wildcard for the  fast reply.. smile.gif)))
In this case..  Is it possible to purchase few properties at once? To leverage...? Possible to get 90% financing?

My monthly commitment is RM1510per month.  Age below 35.
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You could do that, there are a few ways about it. Legally speaking, as long as you are upfront about it, then no issues. But if you go through the "loan compression" route, that is already in "grey to black" area already. Either way, as long as you do not have more than 1 residential property loan under your name, your next application(s) will be given 90% maximum margin of financing (MOF)

Just to be clear, can you share these details? Easier for me to get it done right at once:

Personal
Name (or nickname):
Age:

Income (RM/month)
Gross:
Nett (after deducting EPF, PCB, SOCSO):
Variable income (OT, commissions, if any):
Rental:
Investment (ASB, Tabung Haji, Unit Trusts, FD):
Bonus 2017:
Bonus 2016:

Commitments (RM/month)
Mortgage:
Hire purchase:
Credit card outstanding:
ASB loan:
Personal loans:
PTPTN:
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post Sep 29 2018, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(Siao_Lang @ Sep 29 2018, 02:23 AM)
Ok.  Will can you drop me your contact. Will pm you.

Generally..  Just a pure commission earner.  No basic salary.  Only 1 housing loan with rm1510 per month commitment.  No credit card.  Car loan fully settled. Ccris no problem. No other investments. Withdrawn my fd. But theres a '1' in jan and feb ccris.  Will it affect loan approval?  sad.gif
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1. No problem being a pure commission earner as long as you have documents and the banks can verify your employer (registered business, no hits in their CTOS/RAMCI report)

2. No probelm with a '1' that doesn't not continue for months... it's just a small mistake and happens to many people. It would be a problem if it was a "1 1 1 1 1 1 1" that means you purposely delay your repayment.
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QUOTE(AimanAhmad93 @ Oct 3 2018, 12:15 PM)
Assalamualaikum,

hi all expert and agents,

I would like to ask how did a bank approving any income derived from trading stocks market? My concern was since any income derived from stocks market were not taxable, how did the bank approving that type of income? What document needed to prepare for the loan applications?

Thanks in advance.
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Alaiumussalam wbt.

You are referring to day trading right? Which CDS account are you using? Do you have a registered business?
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QUOTE(hercules3110 @ Oct 4 2018, 08:13 PM)
Hi all,

Do u mind doing a calculation for me. I would like to know how much maximum can i apply before i go property hunting. Thx

Gross monthly : 4600
Latest bonus : 3.5 months
Commitment : Car @ 690 + utilities @ 300
Age : 29
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post Oct 6 2018, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(hercules3110 @ Oct 5 2018, 08:11 PM)
Hi. Thank you for your calculation.

You include bonus as part of the income, usually how many years will they average it?
Hi. Thank you for your calculation.

You did not include bonus as part of the income, may i know why?
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Banks include bonus in a few ways:

From 0% to 80% of the bonus earned, monthly averaged (divide that by 12 months)

This entirely depends on the documents, but banks understand that some employees are given lower basic salary but with higher bonuses, for example, those working for Singapore Airlines.

My job is not to judge the applicants' ability to repay the loan, but to calculate the expected maximum loan amount
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QUOTE(SejukCerita @ Oct 9 2018, 05:09 PM)
Hello there, can you help me to calculate my eligible maximum loan amount?

Gross monthly : RM5500
Commitment : Car @ RM810
Age : 29

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post Oct 10 2018, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(Gerruf @ Oct 10 2018, 10:57 AM)
Hi Mr Faiz, Im not familiar with house financing.

I'm using Maybank Conventional Loan amount of RM80K

Balance to go is RM 45K

Interest Rate stated there is 7.4%

Loan : 30 years

I'm planning to apply for withdraw for renovation purposes. Is it wise to do so?
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Good afternoon,

1. your rate is way too high, at 7.4%, even without the need to cash-out, I may suggest to refinance just to save on interest. We can go through the numbers as long as you are comfortable sharing some personal info out in the open, I can show how much you are "losing" by paying that much amount of interest.

In general, every 0.1% difference between your rate and the best rate is RM100 lost a year. Which, I may add, why I think a fixed rate of 4.99% is a horrible deal because you are losing money hand-over-fist every single day that you are liable to pay that high interest rate.

2. What is the market value of the house? In general, you can get a maximum refinancing amount of 90% of the MV. So if your house value is RM200k, you can get 90% of that, which is RM180k. Deduct the balance of RM45k, and you will end up with RM135k. Of course, you can apply for less amount of cash-out, since it will increase your monthly commitment

QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 10 2018, 12:32 PM)
What you meant is refinancing. You can do a top up loan with your existing bank or refinance it altogether to get a lower interest rate.

If the overall interest rate is lower then its already justified to do so.
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Hi insurance agent,

thanks for answering on my behalf laugh.gif

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Ah I see that Loanstreet is also starting to market themselves here. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lavenzo @ Dec 27 2018, 02:45 PM)
Hi, sorry im not sure if this is right place to ask.

I am on a semi-flexi conv laon of 500k and now bank has released 150k to the developer. so i would like to ask,

1) if i now transfer 100k from my saving to my loan account, does that mean i will only pay the interest of 50k moving forward ?
2) i can still withdraw the money from my loan account to my saving account right? need to call bank?
3) when can i start pay/deduct to the loan principal amount? need to wait the bank to release all 500k first?
4) will the 100k from no.1 automatically deduct to principal amount? or i need to instruct bank to do so?

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1. Yes. Provided that you bank allows you to do "capital pre-payment" on the property
2. yes, capital prepayment can be withdrawn, especially since if it is a full-flexi. Again, depends on the loan type you signed. all these should be in the LO
3. Yes, full installment starts after VP
4. Depend on your loan type, if it is semi-flexi you need to inform them what the money is for. if it is full-flexi, well, depending on how they set up the full-flexi, you can either put it in the CA/SA-linked-mortgage account (CIMB) or pay into the OD account (Maybank)
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QUOTE(lavenzo @ Dec 27 2018, 03:02 PM)
mine loan is with maybank, then in my maybank2u account i saw option for me to transfer money from saving to the loan account that assume i'm allow to 'capital pre-payment'?
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Can't just assume. Got to ask. I am familiar with CIMB capital pre-payment, becaue it has 3 distinct options

1. pay installment
2. capital prepayment
3. advanced payment

Advanced payment does not reduce capital, thus doesn't save you interest. So you ahve to be careful with these.
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QUOTE(BALAKAJENTHIRAN @ Dec 28 2018, 10:50 AM)
Hi,
Just want to clarify. Im a fresh grad earning around 3k per month, no commitments planning to buy a house at Tpg. Which bank is recommended ? The house im planning to buy is second hand house which is selling for 230k but im not sure how much the bank will evaluate the house. which bank will provide higher evaluation price ?
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You can go with ANY banks

1. problem may arise due to the no commitment status. Issues that I foresee is that the rates may be higher than nomal, and the margin of financing (MOF) may be lower thus you would have to pay more. Actually, local banks are better for this purpose. RHB and CIMB would be ok choices as per my experiences

2. In today's market the market value (MV) set by the banks' panel valuers tend to be higher than the actual selling price. In any case, if the MV cannot match the RM230k, it means it may be over-priced anyway.
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QUOTE(BALAKAJENTHIRAN @ Dec 28 2018, 11:15 AM)
yes i have FD in Maybank
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The FD can be used as proof of savings, which is important when the bank's credit side is making the decision. Approval may be easy to get, but the margin and rates are the concerns.
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QUOTE(BALAKAJENTHIRAN @ Dec 28 2018, 11:20 AM)
Thx a lot for the suggestion. Is there anyone u know can help me to get the MV of the house ?
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MV is usually done by the banker/broker that you engage with to process the financing. Each bank has its own panel of valuers (who sometimes are panel for multiple banks too). Get your broker/banker to do this for you. My post is usually reported by an insurance agent for discussing my job and business. But you know what I do based on my signature.

On a side note, you are free to engage any banker/broker, not necessarily the ones forced upon you by the real estate agent (they usually share commissions/referrals)
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QUOTE(BALAKAJENTHIRAN @ Dec 28 2018, 11:41 AM)
In my case i have no broker. direct dealing with the house owner.
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awesome. even better since you can nego prices directly.

Just engage a banker/mortgage-broker to proceed with the valuation. It is common courtesy to stick with him throughout the loan process, but NOT legally binding to do so.
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QUOTE(zeroexz @ Dec 28 2018, 08:30 PM)
Not sure can ask here. I’m shopping for loan for a residential property and approached different bank. Some offered Islamic montage product, are these any different from the convention? Anything that being a non Muslim need to comply with if taking up such Islamic home financing product?
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In general, both Islamic financing and Conventional loans are similar in terms of interest calculation. Most differences are in the contract, which are just a way to make the transaction/contract syariah compliant

Some benefits:

1. interest rate capping of about 10-12% depending on the bank
2. Some do not have default rate
3. Most do not have any lock-in period or penalty

Cons:

1. more documentations, can be costly by RM300 per documents, extra 1-3 documents
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Dec 29 2018, 05:09 PM)
May I know why margin and rates will be concern?

So how do we build up our profile to get good rates and margin? Try to apply more credit card first? Or get a car loan first?

Trying to understand as this may be a chicken and egg thing ... maybe I am wrong but hope to understand a bit better here... cause I thought if no commitment and can show good salary history ...this is very good already right?
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1. With lower margins you would need to fork out more deposit. Not that many banks would finance someone with zero credit history at the normal 90% margin, so it is important to build some

2. Credit card is a good option, although banks would be wary about giving credit cards to someone without any records in the first place anyway. Catch 22 much? Hahaha. A car hire-purchase is definitely a good option if you really need one to begin with

3. Another option for Bumiputras or those who are eligible for them would be ASB-financing. HP and ASB-financing are really easy to open even without credit history because these are loans without any collateral

Best of luck

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QUOTE(nubJeff @ Jan 1 2019, 08:28 AM)
Hi guys,

Can check if the existing mortgage already out of lock-in from bank, possible to seek other banks for better interest rate?

Worth to do so?
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Hi

1. You can check the lock-in period stated in the LO. It should be a few pages in. the fact of the matter is, you can still "refinance" or make a settlement of the loan before the lock-in period ends, but you would incur some penalty

2. Depending on the banks and the refinancing loan amount, the rates may differ.

3. Whether or not you should refinance should be based on your objectives:

a. are you refinancing to save interest rates? What would your installment be after the refinancing? Would you be extending your tenure?

b. are you refinancing to unlock the value of the house to use the cash-out for further investments?

In general, clients would refinance to unlock the value of the house, because they need the money now to be reinvested in golden opportunities. this could be in the form of a business expansion, ASB-financing, etc. Others do it to renovate the house (which is OK because renovation increases the value of the house, to certain extent)

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