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 Proton PrevĂ© V18, more and more on da roads!

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post Sep 10 2013, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Sep 9 2013, 12:30 PM)
The wiring under the seat is not just for the side airbag, it also tells your car if you are wearing your seatbelt (hence the annoying chime if you are not wearing it).
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there is also weight sensor under passenger front seat to prevent airbags activation if u forget to off front passenger airbag incase u put stuff, a baby on baby seat infront,todler(which isnt recomended),small kid. cant rember exactly, whether weight below 20kg or 15kg it will deactivated. for safety reason n for save a bit of pockdt money replacing pass airbag if nobody sitting there.
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post Sep 11 2013, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Sep 11 2013, 07:28 PM)
i'm thinking to buy my first car. i have set my mind the price should be around 60k+. After some readings, i have listed 3 cars: Preve CFE, Mitsubishi Attrage and Nissan Almera.

CC: 1.6 vs 1.2 vs 1.5
Segment: C vs B vs B
Engine: Proton vs Mitsubishi vs Nissan

Let put aside FC, second value, spec, safety and design of the cars. I'm not rich, so i want to use my first car as long as i can like 15 years to 20 years if possible. Maintenance cost is also my main concern here, not sure which one is better. Is 1.2 good enough for Sedan car? i have read about Ford 1.0 ecoboost engine and some reviewers claims that this engine is powerful than current 1.6 engine Ford has. Not sure about 1.2 cc with Mitsubishi engine. i may have to travel outside of city frequently, so the car i will buy is not only for city drive. Ford, Toyota and Honda are above my budget, so i will not consider that cars.

To summarize, i need a car with:
1. long term use  thumbup.gif
2. low/good/easy maintenance  rclxms.gif

Hope you can advise/assist me on this, please.
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i know this maybe out of context,since u mentioned its ur 1st car,n u mentioned to use 4 15 years which i cnsider quite hard to the market trend n its ur 1st,one day u may want to change car sooner than expected,why not cnsider saga sv. cheaper can save up a bit of cash for petrol,maintenance n future upgrade. u can opt 4 myvi also but maybe u need a boot space in future that cause u to upgrade earlier. so,saga sv may can serve u longer b4 upgrade to a bigger car or mpv when ur family grow bigger.
just my 2 cents
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post Sep 12 2013, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Sep 12 2013, 07:05 PM)
yes, power window problem and use too much fuel.
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herm,pwrwindow isnt a problem actually. fuel,old saga,4at cnsume more than new cvt. unless u rev@drive punch cvt like auto,then it will suffer same faith.
ill already posted on punch cvt at saga thread. u can look it up.

on average, rm 50@1.90 city driving,300 to 350km. highway,350 to 450km,depend on speed,legal speed,average 400km.mix driving, 320 to 370km.

but drive like auto gearbox, it will only last 250km for rm50@1.90.

not the most fuel efficient in town,just average. hways,on par with many,but u already save up some cash early by buying saga. 15k ++ is a lot of money for fuel and maintenance compare to preve iafm,n even much more saving cmpare to cfe preve.

and pwr windows components are under warranty for 10years. so if broken,replaced it foc.
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post Sep 12 2013, 07:53 PM

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just go directly to saga thread n ask them. they r quite active. u can ask problem start from saga blm until saga flx se. most of them just suffering face/water face problem :-),just kidding on last part.
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post Sep 13 2013, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(preveverp @ Sep 13 2013, 01:33 AM)
shocking.gif  shocking.gif my IAFM preve executive only getting around 200-220km for RM50 , city driving!! how do you get 300-350km for RM50 city driving??

i just did my first 1000km service only..

Before the 1st service, i went on highway drive from KL to Johor and back, had to pump RM100 petrol for the whole journey (rm50 each time before departure)
Was driving around 140-160kmh from KL > Johor . Coming back time around 100-120kmh Johor > KL .

Something wrong with my preve FC ?
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im talking about saga flx by the way
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post Sep 13 2013, 08:19 AM

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wait until 10k service,then its optimum then. for preve iafm,the weight did hampered its city drive. and rm50 is old price,now around rm55. and its on average.

but i can give u a tip on how to juice up ur fc n understand how punch cvt work. apply to all,same as cfe.

in city traffic, when u stop at traffic n want to start moving,never press ur throttle 1st,wait until the car start moving or rolling bx itself n the rpm raise by 1krpm++,then u start to press the fuel pedal.

2nd, for punch cvt, there are 3 diff strategies applied.

no 1, 1k rpm to 1.6 krpm,torque being reduce a bit for ease of parking,crawling in traffic jam and driving around housing area when speed is only up to 40kmh max.

when u r crawling in traffic jam,stop n go movement when speed isnt exceeding 40kmh,just rev around that region.

no 2, 1.7krpm to 1.9krpm,or exactly below 2krpm,for city driving n slow hway cruising,the engine wil labour for optimum fuel efficiency,same as cvt ratio. yup its feel slow,but adequate enough in city driving where speed is not more than 80 kmh. so,if ur driving in town n traffic is smooth,only stop at traffic light,n after that smooth,then rev around this region.

no 3,2k rpm and beyond,this is when the character of cvt change,for cfe,of course feel like a massive torque,for iafm+,u will feel its power start to come.
the cvt ratio is more on agressive ratio,where low ratio is being given utmost priority,to ease overtaking,sudden acceleration,fully loaded, hill climbing etc. slam the pedal a bit beyond 2k rpm,even at 2.1krpm,u will feel diff feeling compare to below 2krpm, u can hear the cvt n engine roar a bit. this is where normally people will drive,but being cvt,that is not the most fuel efficient.

and since cvt, u will feel below 2krpm is really slow,but actually its not that slow. the speed still climb as conventional at at around 2k to 2.5krpm,due to smoothness,u feel it slow. thats why many kaki's dont like cvt,it doesnt give manly feeling same as manual or conventional auto or dsg.

and dont use sat function for iafm unless u know how to manipulate it. it may give better acceleration feeling,but just the feeling,not the speed.

try out urself,using sat,rev not exceeding 2krpm each gear,driving in full cvt mode,slam to 2krpm. cmpare the feeling and the speed.
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post Sep 13 2013, 08:24 AM

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and in teribble traffic cndition, only 3 cylinders n hybrid n turbo diesel can survive better.

average is only at normal traffic cndition. not withstanding how long is ur car been idling in traffic also wasting of fuel.

try to practice what i mentioned earlier.
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post Sep 13 2013, 01:57 PM

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:-) u can actually predict the traffic,when it start to move.its not really taking time to wait like 5 seconds,it just merely a second,and it will accelerate better when clutch fully release without need to press more.

but then,its up to you. just sharing it. many have tried it without a problem or any big lorry leave u 50 meters behind.

same as manual car,i dont see manual car lunch toward as fast as conv at coz they need time to realease the clutch n at the same time pressing the accelerator pedal,unless u rev it high earlier for

even if u press the pedal without let the clutch release 1st,n u r daydreaming, u aint going fast either n ended up being honk by others :-).

its up to you, never force or mentioned its compulsory to do.dont bother it if dont like it.:-), i just sharing info how to get more juice which isnt something which being told everyday.

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post Sep 13 2013, 02:03 PM

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im not being complicated. revving more the speed that u needed is a waste. even revving 1.9k rpm which below 2k rpm at parking lot not needed.

as i said,just sharing info n trying to help,not forcing. then i shud left u guys alone then.

im sorry coz make it too complicated n maybe offended some of u.
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post Sep 16 2013, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(preveverp @ Sep 15 2013, 10:44 PM)
Anybody did their servicing at Proton Seksyen 13 before?

I got a feeling i may have been cheated.

Do you get back the remaining engine oil container after your service at Seksyen 13?

I did my first service there. The person in charge 'Zul'  tried to bluff me by saying it is a MUST to buy the 'magnetrap' product for the oil filter for 1st service. I declined. He did not seem happy.

I told him about my car problems. He said will check.

Here's the thing.. I forgot to mark my oil filter before sending it in. When I got back my car he said everything was checked n done. (Later I check those parts, some not even adjusted, they just tell me it's adjusted.)

I did not not get back my remaining engine oil container.

1week later now I check my engine oil, it is already starting to turn brown-ish ..

Should I be concerned that they did not even change my engine oil and oil filter? How do I even know if they did not change anything? Maybe this brownish oil is actually my old oil? New oil shouldn't turn light brown so fast, right?

I'm just worried, as I know engine may have metal pieces after run in , and engine oil needs to be changed in 1st service to clear those pieces.. If they did not change, and my engine keeps running with this old engine oil until 10,000km??? Sure have problem right? Really regret going there. Should have gone to jln227 branch instead.
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please report ur case by calling or emailing wecare asap,especially on compulsory buying magnettrap. its recommended,not compulsory though. cant force the customer. but the good thing is he asked u 1st b4 installing.

for engine oil,some use barrel,some use bottle in branch sc. normally stated in the slip.
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post Sep 20 2013, 07:29 AM

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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Sep 20 2013, 05:59 AM)
BTW i noticed there is click sound every time i press the brake pad when the gear is in P.

Is this normal? The sound seems to come from the gear box itself and controls the knob button.

In most cases, you will only hear 1 click because will have to press the brake pad once to move from P to R or D. But once in R or D, no click sound.
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gbox shiftlock. normal.
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post Sep 21 2013, 07:51 AM

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cif cost from thailand doesnt include distributor profit.. so the balance is tax plus distributor profit. in thailand also u dnt get thailand focus at 36k.
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post Sep 21 2013, 09:07 AM

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prtn is subjected to same exice tax as focus albeit lower coz lower engine capacity which is the same as others at same engine cc tax bracket and same 10% sales tax.

if focus is qualified under afta rules, 30% of import tax shud be waived. the only excise n sales tax is applicable.
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post Sep 21 2013, 09:15 AM

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excise tax for prtn is 75% plus 10% sales tax. in thailand, tax bracket around 30% to 60%. tax treatment need to be fair under afta across asian. the only thing can reduce the tax is by introducing some program like hybrid car tax waving in malaysia n low cost green car program as in thailand n indonesia,but it must be apply to all car makers,not only for local car.

if not,u r breaching the cntract under afta n fta, which the country can be banned from selling own prduct n can be fined.
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post Sep 21 2013, 01:39 PM

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hi all, just sharing a bit,just realise last year, proton bandung jawa had uploaded a few of crashtest done for exora,n which some of them not even being tested by any ancap. its only a part of crashtests being done showed in the video,n that is how prtn done their testing. its actually internal video,but since uploaded by the dealer,its ok i guest. just hope u guys can learn a bit on part of making cars,not as simple one might think. sorry for offtopic,the video is in youtube. sorry in advance on earlier comments on tax,just answering the question. sory also 4 being offtopic in this comment.

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