Dear all

I am resident staying at anjung hijau apartment, I felt sad about the current situation that ran by the current management office. We tried to make complain to various authorities but the people still manage it.i am not sure who can help.?

1.our sinking fund was used by the management council without our notice and no EGM was called.about 700k was drawn.

2. The election was not fair, a council member is a guy and represented by a woman

3.one of the government servant as a council member misused his power and authority without nomination form and get elected as council member.

4.The operation manager without any property management knowledge and cannot read or write in English, sitting at management office blocking and shouting to those people complaining.

5.water tanks are not cleaned since the new council took over, we are drinking yellow water.

6.no fogging is done and lots of mosquito.

7. The gate barrier with Lot of sharp needles and got to be careful when we passed through the gate. Don know who to complain?

8. Lift are always faulty.

9. Fire extinguish expired or no key.

Management council are not doing well and we can't get rid of them. How....?.? where is justice?..



This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Mar 28 2013, 02:38 PM


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Worst thing is our sinking fund was transferred to a group of trustees without our consent. An agreement was signed on behalf of all residents without our knowledge. We noticed it when the agreed had already signed and stamped.

Where got 包青天?

This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Mar 28 2013, 02:36 PM

Wow so many prob but your house price still keep on increasing

Double post

This post has been edited by rachel_xxx: Mar 28 2013, 02:38 PM

Yeah lots of owners felt very unfair and some of them no eyes to see, choose to move out

good heavens. there goes the ANjung Hijau selling price...''toilet flushing sound....''.

my sis nearly bought this place. Now Thank God. It is a shame really, very nice neighbourhood.

Some of us had stopped paying management fees because security,cleaner, TNB and Indah water not paid by management. They spent our money like water, invite a lawyer sit in every council meeting. Of cause this was without our consent. Sad .....😭😭😭😭

Yes is a very nice neighborhood if the management is good and care for our welfare. We can't get rid of them

anjung hijau in bukit jalil? under DBKL authority? so refer to COB DBKL first if no respond direct to ministry of housing and local government for complaint & help...

Yes we went up to that level already. But the Housing authority overlooked our complained that the management claimed that it was a spelling mistake.The elected council woman changed to a man is a typo error in minutes of meeting during AGM even we had the photo to prove that a woman stands for election. However it was overlooked. There is 3 good council members out of 7 but 4 of them are the majority so lots of decision was made by the 4.

We as residents already die heart, some of us just move in and can't simply move.

This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Mar 28 2013, 03:34 PM

As an AJK for 3 years of my current staying apartment, i can't help you but can reply you with my experience. And the action is totally up to the resident whether decided to go all the way to fight against the injustice. All of my reply are based on the rules of COB

This post has been edited by yeelong: Mar 28 2013, 04:04 PM

Thanks is helpful

I thought the management issue has been a while already?

http://thegreenfieldshome.blogspot.com/ - since 2011!

Existing thread:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2176887

Yeah now is getting worst with the new management. The account is not healthy how to improve our welfare..

Management is not looking into the complain.The operation man in the management office will shout at us like a gangster whenever we complained.

Open our eyes to look on the facts if some of us are staying there, look at the water quality, look at the faulty lift, look at gate barrier which spoilt for months, look at the family members which bites by Mosquitos...

Are we still consciously said that they are doing well?

This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Mar 28 2013, 05:50 PM

i read the blogs, and understand now it's under, and what i can say is your MC is in totally messed. Has new MC being elected or still the old group of ppl? If still in the mess after the new MC I can only wishing you good luck

Go and read this also http://1anjunghijau.blogspot.com/. The new mc is worst together with 2012 mc, our money is being used without our notice. Monkey see monkey do.

Yeah the new mc only stayed there to revenge and never think of our welfare. I add on another blog which hope our voice are heard. I hope the new mc shall not live in hatred and they shall have conscious of what is right and wrong to do to the residents.

We just hope to have a clean water, safety environment, management to listen to our complain and not to frighten the residents away. Such a simple request and yet difficult to fulfill.😭😭😭

This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Mar 28 2013, 06:08 PM

My apartment has yet to enter the MC stage, therefore i can't give you any advise other than you need to read the MC R&R whether there is a rule if third party can be appointed by local city council to take over the messed up management.

Example, during the JMB, under the COB, if resident found out the abused of power from the JMC and building management, the resident can fail complain to COB and ask for intervene, then COB will take over become care taker of the apartment's JBC and COB will also appoint the legitimate building management consultant company which under their list to take over the building management operation

Look at these photo, you will shock that we are like staying in low cost estate.

Leakage of water pipe



Don't know what wire it is, will it cause electric shock

Anyone know which authority I can complain of this gate? So dangerous is like a weapon

How bad is our management, the shelter is broken some time and no work is done.



This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Mar 29 2013, 09:15 PM

look like medium low cost apartment

it is apartment (not condo ) , no swimming pool

But in cases like this for ts, my advise is really what dale carnegie has said many years ago . it is called serenity prayer

God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

Big news one of the council member which work in ministry of foreign affair because of resident complain went around with baton and prepare to hit residents.

Really no law? Just because he think he is civil servant and he can do anything....

How can we stay in such places with gangster around

There will be EGM this Sunday 7th April 3pm talking about the account, are we going to keep silent so that we will not get hit?

Yeah I agreed can only pray

See they owe sybas money and also TNB ....

try ask for "free water rebate" from BN.

We actually advising our JMB to do the same appeal.

Why landed uses less than 7m3 water is entitle free? but we parcel owner using less than 7m3 still need to pay?

logic?

if u not satisfy with the JMC, kick them out and become one

Thanks we really hoped. last week EGM was terrible. The council members are gangsters.

This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Apr 18 2013, 03:05 PM

This management claims 100k for landslide at our apartment, can anyone tell me does it really cost that much?

Every where is the same. If u not agree with their proposal, they threaten u to dispose their post immediately. I met a lot this kind of people. Other word to describe them, bully.

Possible, looking at the photo, the slope is quite high and we classified it as class 3 slope

Slope stability is not cheap when considering needle injection

Yeah they threatened the owners will sue us. See this you will know. The man went around frightening people is the one of the maintenance manager.He tried to push the old man and lady which are also the council members to lead the EGM. The 3 man and women who are not good councils sat behind with the table wanted to lead the EGM but rejected by most of the owners yet they still want to control the EGM and made all owners listened to her.

So sad....we as owners got no power...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VG8z9wQMao&sns=em

Thanks do you have any familiar contractor which can estimate the price? Can PM me?thanks

Was so free that i watched the video .. i was like WTF ..... is there any law to govern the management of strata title property?

Condo/apt does not seem like a safe bet ...

if the owners have no right .. then who has right? Any sifu can share some thoughts? Anything specified in the SPA to protect owners?

the f***er says "u think owner got all the rights ah?"

yeah, totally barbarian

Familiar contractor susah a bit. But C&S consultant for estimation, u want?

Sad....really sad indeed, I'm sorry for the owner..... If I were you, since owner also got no power n can't do anything. I'd rather sell it off and move to somewhere else quickly.

I think what TS wants is to know any relevant depatment that the owners can seek help from, not to avoid the issue.

Can't the owner vote to change the whole management? Will HDA helps?

This post has been edited by rachel_xxx: Apr 18 2013, 11:39 PM

From what I read with the court order that has been posted on the info board in the past few days, I think it wasn't transferred. From my understanding, there has been a lawsuit against the management council and that they were charged to pay a big sum like more or less half a million. The way I get it is that the complainant agreed to donate the portion of the money to Anjung Hijau if paid without failure, but the complainant made sure that the money he agreed to donate will be received into the trust fund which will be managed by a certain trustees. That is what I understood from all my readings everytime I pass pay the info board. It is not the sinking fund transferred to a group of trustees, but if that is another story, please do enlighten us as you seemed well know what has been going on in Anjung Hijau.

Yeah that is terrible. now the world changed the employee can scold and push the employer without get charge, there is no law and justice.

The maintenance manager is better than another guy at least he only scolded but not fought.You know in the video, the Chinese man who sat behind table; he is worst than than the maintenance manager. He actually went around with a baton to threaten a man.

There are witness so I wonder why ministry of foreign affair want to employ such a person is a shame to our country.

Yes give it to me. Thank you very much, we can't afford any more losing of money.

stop pay maintenence fees...

Yeah you are right now you know why I can't wait to move out. How i wish anyone can stand up and fight for the right?One is holding power going around threatening people and you can't complain. One is using his civil servant power with a baton threatening and sarcastic owner.

We can't stop paying maintenance fees they always threatening to sue owners. All the money given to them, they do not know how to prioritize it. They shall take the money to pay to maintain our apartment first instead of upgrade CCTV and paying for lawsuits.

Our owners welfare is more important than the lawsuits, they shall go and intimate it instead of giving away the money in hiring lawyer and never do any negotiations for us.

see which is best for u ..from my experince a situation like this should be stopped immidiatly or it will a bad to worse...

Yes we hoped to stop immediately. This civil servant went around to housing board, COB and police claiming that he is government person and hoping they can give him face. he really think he is our prime minister.

lolz... see which is best for everyone

I sincerely think residents should recover the money spent by the previous Anjung Hijau Management Councils.

I saw in the information board, the amount is not a joke.

I seem to make a conclusion that there is big financial issue with the present and ex council members. Maybe, some of them are trying to cover and some of them are trying also to uncover something.

I got this thinking by all those documents being posted on the info board and I received a flyer before which is against the present council members.

Yes I passed by the notice board many times, are few questions in my mind which lots of owners may have the same puzzled but there were no answered given.

1.if the donation is to give back to anjung hijau why it is not given in the first place? For e.g 600k need to be compensated, anjung hijau just pay 300k and the rest will be donated. Why need a trouble to collect 600k first then give 300k later?

2.the notice of the compensation and contract was only put up on the notice board on Jan 2013 to inform the owners but the payment from the sinking fund had already made since 1 year back in early 2012. They claimed that is a court order. The problem is not on the claimed. E.g a debtor was placed an order by the court for bankruptcy,as a creditor can I broke into the house to take all the assets without informing the debtor and only inform after taking the asset.

They claimed that this was the ex-administrator decision but the staffs which are witnessing the contract are the current management why don they inform the owners?


3.the trustee was not anjung hijau corporation and are under other people names, if it is a donation to Anjung Hijau why the corporation name was not Stated in the contract? does it mean the donation is given to other person?


4.they kept on claiming that they can claim back from ex-council for the lost?can they guarantee in black and white?there are many lawyers, how many dare to write 100% sure win? Who is going to pay the lawsuit?is anjung hijau? Isn't it when you got no rice to eat is better to feed the stomach first than to use the money to fight for something that are unsure?

I had no answer for your questions and God will know the answer. Because I know we are in financial crisis,why don they settle our welfare first? I really worried one day I got to walk up of stair case because we did'nt pay TNB.

This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Apr 19 2013, 07:25 PM

Yes, some of the good councils mentioned that he will prioritize to pay the TNB,cleaner, security first then intimate with the debtor on the lawsuit case whether can delay the payment as our welfare is not settled.however it was stopped by the 4 bad councils who insist want to hire lawyer sat on council meeting and involve in case.

I don understand why some owners supporting them, aren't our welfare are more important than involve in a fight? Is owner really hope to walk up of staircase and let robbery to come in to our home because of no security? Who can they blame if such thing really happen?

For those who can find another place to stay, will just move out.For those who left behind at Anjung Hijau,God bless you and your family cause it may be another low cost apartment with non stop robbery cases.

This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Apr 19 2013, 06:13 PM

yes recover money is important but if you only have 10 dollars in your pocket, don you think you shall feed your stomach first. Because 10 dollars is not enough to do anything but at least it can fill our stomach and not die with hunger.

There are many owners blinded by being a fighter but if they got no food to eat, how can they fight? To me as a resident, I will think welfare is more important.

Something for us to ponder? Whether is important to involve in a fight or to let our family member that we love walk up of staircase and danger of being robbed?is egotism to fight is more important than to let our family suffer?

This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Apr 19 2013, 06:26 PM

I know my comment is not helping at all. My bad.
Anyway, Good luck.

Report to MACC for corruption - as a civil servant suspected corruption with outside activity

http://www.sprm.gov.my/laporkan-rasuah.html

Report to Ministry of foreign affair itself

Report to the Star other newspaper.. show them the video clip, and other proof.

I believe this is news worthy because it will affects a lot of other common people ... almost all strata title owners could be affected or victim if there is no law to govern such simple things.

This post has been edited by ibwo: Apr 19 2013, 09:54 PM

I also have read another blog, the greenfieldshome blogspot and with it and reading yours plus the postings on the info board I can see the picture bits by bits.



This post has been edited by emohruo: Apr 19 2013, 11:55 PM

I am reacting strongly to the money spent by ex councils, I even noted that they are being referred to as ILLEGAL EX COUNCILS. We residents should really come as one to pursue the money recovery. Yes we only have 10 dollars, what if we already spent the 10 dollars? Where can we get more? That is our money which we should be enjoying now if not just spent by these people. In the first place, we should have much more than 10 dollars if not just (can I say) corrupted by these people being referred to as ILLEGAL EX COUNCILS.

You mean the present members of the council? I did not know there is even a faction among the councils. There are good? And there are 4 bad councils? This is very sad. That only means, there is no solidarity to go for one goal.

I agree that our welfare is more important. That is the reason why I really support whoever is pursuing the money recovery because if we will get back the money, then I know, our welfare will then be improved.

Don worry it helps

if you have given away the $10 to fight, will die of hunger immediately without seeing the result. But if you have filled the stomach, you can work and earn more money.

We can't answers anything on the case cause we are not in the picture. I felt a clean and safe environment after a day of hard work are more important that we involve in who is right and wrong? I guess this is a fundamental need as a resident.

This post has been edited by Myanjunghijau: Apr 20 2013, 12:00 AM

I read the post with extreme concern. After reading further, it struck me back to reality. I am sure everyone with their sane mind will do further analysis, thinking further or try listening to both parties.

There are a lot of doubts:
- “HMMaster” has mentioned in a response dated Mar 28 2013, 05:01 PM that the issue exist since 2011. “Myanjunghijau” responded in Mar 28 2013, 05:36 PM that currently it is under the new management. If I understand it correctly, “Myanjunghijau” is complaining the new recently elected Management / AJK ? If the issue exist in 2011, I bet the new Management / AJK would be left with zero in their account to begin with. Few legal suits against the Management in 2011 would have cost a bomb.

- “Myanjunghijau” userID in lowyat was registered in Mar 2013, and the first post was Mar 2013. Is the userID created just to attack Anjung Hijau in the public ? Honestly, any attack in a public forum does more harm than good. This obviously creates hatred or doubts in the eyes of investors. What will happen to the property price after that ?

- Is “Myanjunghijau” really an owner of a unit in anjung hijau ? What is the main objective of posting a public complain against the management ? “Myanjunghijau” mentioned in a response dated Mar 28 2013, 03:07 PM that he went up to the level of complaining to Housing authority. Honestly, I do not know the proper process but if he had approached the authority, I take it as he already had the knowledge of what to do or at least would have been told the proper procedure from the authority department.

- What actually prompted me to post this response was the picture of green rooftop shelter attached by “myanjunghijau”, dated Mar 29 2013, 09:14 PM. If I remember correctly, that is the same building where the management office is. I did visit anjung hijau 2 or 3 weeks ago, and I did notice that green shelter has a patch that it has already been fixed. Yes, it looks to me that it has really been taken care of. Does it just take someone to inform the management that something needs to be fixed ?

- I believe the proper channel to fix something is to inform the management, or submit an official feedback / complain form. What is the purpose of going to every corner of the building to find a fault and post it into a public forum ? Even in a well-established building like KLCC, I am sure there is a defect that needs fixing. The management or security personnel of KLCC cannot be monitoring every corner surrounding the building.

- “Myanjunghijau” seems to already have a lot of documentations, and even posted a latest Syabas water bill for March 2013. This is attached in a response dated Apr 5 2013, 12:40 PM. It seems to me that the current management is sharing every documentation ? I did walk to anjung hijau management office 3 years ago and as recent as 2 or 3 weeks back. Yes there are new faces now, and I have to say that the current management is better and more willing to share information. Well, this is my personal opinion as a visitor talking to the management.

- I always believe in solving a crisis harmoniously. If someone believe a fund has been misused, walk into the office and ask for an account statement. Perhaps, “myanjunghijau” already had some evident since that was being brought up in the first post. Fund involving 700k is a huge amount. Again, I do not know the procedure but since “myanjunghijau” has already approached the building authority, he could even submit an official report about the accounts. It will be a big offense if there is any wrong doing.


Trust me, I seldom post in this forum but this particular thread caught my attention since I have been scouting for house in Bukit Jalil for the past 3 years. Also, I did read about some of the court cases related to anjung hijau.

Well, I have said what I have to. So it is up to the individual to choose the next desired approach to tackle an issue.
Just my 2 cents from a distance observer.