Just sell it off if you can get a good price.
If feel regret, can always repurchase it lol.

One of the main reasons why I usually buy 2nd hand lenses

But sometime when u wan it again, it hard to repurchase a used unit

My 1022mm is used unit too haha, just scare next time after sell, cant get back this price le @@"


Nvm, I will try let go see got ppl interesting or not, I dun wan wasted something that sleep in my drybox, I rather buy something that I will be use always

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Apr 8 2013, 07:04 PM

How much you buy? Sell to me lah

Are u serious?

Well, lens price are usually quite stable.
As long as you're not ganjiong wanna sell cheap cheap to get rid of it quickly or impatient to purchase another at high price and you should be fine.

Let's say I want to make an upgrade of buying a second body. But I'm interested mainly on ISO performance. Especially for crop sensor body since my lenses are mainly for crop bodies.

I saw some videos of 650Dv60Dv7D has almost identical ISO performance for low light. Basically video should be at max 1600 ISO or it gets too noisy.

7D not really handling ISO and low light better than 650D feels like there's not much I can upgrade to for video.

Now I have to wait and see if the future 70D or 7Dmk2 will have that ISO performance upgrade. Not too keen on upgrading to 6D and the FF system extra expensive world.

I'm in no hurry to upgrade yet but its just nice to know that there is something I can upgrade to in the future. Rather than have a dead end and require to change the system I invested in.

Actually alot of canon fan boy waiting the 70d or 7dmark2 to be announce, but not sure why 70d stil haven came out, alot of fanboy disappointed haha

Well I'm disappointed with the 700D coming out. Just got a 650D not so long ago and now feel outdated already. And I'm pretty sure they did it to fix live view AF. Even some articles on the net says 650D's live view AF is the worst in the entire camera world along with EOS M (And EOS M can't do viewfinder focus so its completely screwed)! I remember just getting my 650D. I was about to cry that I just spent so much money and the damn thing can't focus properly. And that servo continuous AF was damn annoying too. I slowly learn the camera and found out that this camera just is that lousy at live view and must use Quick AF thought view finder for best results. Lucky for me video uses mainly manual focus and the bright clear screen is great to get things in focus easily.

This 650D is so not user friendly for the noob. So much for it being entry level.

I always thought that the 650D is user friendly.
Not to mention live view af on DSLR is just a very minor add on to most.
I agree that the sensor is outdated. Correct if I'm wrong but they have been using the same exact sensor since 550D. A camera released 3 years ago.

Actually 650d using more advan sensor than 550d,it call hybrid sensor with digic5, and alot of user test that 650d at iso 6400 is better than 550, 60, 7d at 6400. But this is base on jpeg compare, so far havent see RAW comparison, because not interesting on 650d so didnt research it


Also dunno y canon announced 700d @@" 100d stil got the point as the world smaller dslr body

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Apr 9 2013, 12:27 PM

Same la... just add on-sensor PDAF and new processor (digic5) niah. Which is a major bummer cos the liveview still slow like hell and new processor no use for raw shooters.

what ISO do you use that makes you concern about ISO performance?

in fact, what kind of photo do you shoot that makes you concern about ISO performance?

I photograph professionally and I find that noise control of Canon cameras has been no issue for the past 3 - 4 years, starting from 500D days.

so it actually puzzles me how people are still overly concerned about noise control.

Omg , i never know that it got no different on RAW file because i just see they compare JPEG at 6400 which 650D look clean than 550/60/7d Even nikon entry level have better iso handling

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Apr 9 2013, 04:14 PM

Like Legend said... 3 year old sensor no change. Then again good also la... at least no temptation to upgrade body.

Since u mention Nikon.. the best-est vs the worst current market APS-C sensor "ISO handling" is only around half stop. Nothing much to blah blah over.

Just that there's many other options available now... how time flies..

I remember some time back when I first got into cameras... I was struggling shooting something similar with a 550D and 30mm f1.4

Now I can shoot this with just a compact camera


DSC04766 by vmwt, on Flickr


DSC04757 by vmwt, on Flickr

This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Apr 9 2013, 06:04 PM

Not photos. Shooting photos can shoot dark scenes at ISO 100 just by expsoing it for several seconds. You can't do that for video.
So yeah the high ISO is used for video. I like to shoot it live indoor at dark scenes. And quite a lot of times already at F2.8, ISO 6400, 1/30 .

Can't exactly tell people to brighten their venue/performance up or annoy people with bright LED lights.

My only current solutions are my F1.4 30mm and F1.8 50mm primes which nicely does the job at 1600 ISO. Or continue shooting at ISO 6400 and then Sepia/Blank&White the footage.

IMO, if you need to bump up your ISO till 6400/3200 for video... it's not that nice (noise or not).
Poor lighting is usually from weak light source which are very unflattering.

If it's a performance, most performance will make use of really intense spot lights which wouldn't require ultra high ISO. (Concerts, choir, play, dance)

well, some places are really too dark for video purpose to begin with.

FF sensor bodies will have a stop or 2 better noise control i suppose.

Good read! Bookmarked.

hi all

what nikon lenses should i go after if i wanna shoot scenery and people