Dear Folks

What it takes to enroll into this course and the determination to engage through the entire DBA courses as a working adults!!. What are the preparation or preliminary works that one need to be prepare?
What your advise? As such: - proposal topics, choose supervisors, which universitites recommend, and etc.

I personally has intend for Segi DBA courses.

Actually what jobs that require DBA? i didnt found any salary adjustment after graduate from MBA as my boss told me that your job function doesnt require MBA, that's the reason why no increment for u

I do not have that thinking what jobs that require DBA. I just want to explore more diverse knowledge in academic or perhaps have a thought one day maybe in my late 40's will venture into academic industry.

I may or may not have a ready answer depending on what question you’re asking and how much explaining I want to do. Perhaps the simplest and most accurate answer you could come up is that to think like a Doctoral Student, or better still a Project Director. Well, you might ask, “What does it mean to think like a doctoral student, and how exactly do you know whether or not you’re thinking like one?” However, as a doctoral student, you’ll spend a lot of time reading and thinking about what you read.

Your boss is probably half-right. Some people do think MBA is all about getting a higher salary afterwards. But I believe you have had learned some negotiation skills in your course. OK. What’s done cannot be undone. So... you could pretend to work with your boss without MBA Degree (i.e. from working under constant supervision, no teamwork, to making risky decisions). When it comes to annual appraisal and your boss starts to question your performance, then you could negotiate with your boss, “That’s because you told me that my job function doesn’t require me to think like a MBA holder.”

Your boss is probably half-right. Some people do think MBA is all about getting a higher salary afterwards. But I believe you have had learned some negotiation skills in your course. OK. What’s done cannot be undone. So... you could pretend to work with your boss without MBA Degree (i.e. from working under constant supervision, no teamwork, to making risky decisions). When it comes to annual appraisal and your boss starts to question your performance, then you could negotiate with your boss, “That’s because you told me that my job function doesn’t require me to think like a MBA holder.”

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This is risky, end up my boss rate me under-perform and no bonus for me

Hao Yuan,

The example was supposed to show how you can counter your boss quick-wittedly with light humor by using his criteria to against himself. This subtlety approach is a complementary interaction as in T’ai Chi & Aikido. If you are a true person of high caliber, then your boss will eventually notice your high outputs and good performance. If your boss doesn’t want to retain you, then you can easily move on to other company that offers you a MBA-competitive package, as long as you maintain an active networks with your Customers, Contractors, and Suppliers.

First, you must demonstrate that you are the right caliber of staff!

Let me activate this thread.

All this while my general perception is DBA is lower ranked and less preferred than PhD in the academic line. But recently I have seen the growing number of DBA graduates teaching in both private and public tertiary institutions.

Is PhD is compulsory in academic line??? As an MBA graduates I prefer to learn from someone who has industrial experience (usually with DBA qualification), than lecturer with PhD qualification that purely emphasize in research.

In Harvard Business School, both PhD and DBA are equally ranked. But in Malaysia I don't see any good DBA program yet. And so called the offered DBA program, candidates need to go thru the coursework like what they did in their MBA, which I think it is repetitive and waste of time. As for he research part, after completing all the coursework, they still need to go thru the PhD research works. It is like DBA need to go thru both heavy loads of coursework and research part before it can get the DBA qualification.

Anyone can enlighten me?

I know MBA lecturers who have DBA qualifications, but of course, there are a lot more academics out there holding PHD qualifications. Looking at the demand from universities, a lot more are looking for candidates who have PHD level qualifications, so naturally if one would like to progress into lecturing/academic line, he/she would eventually consider sparing the time and taking it up.

Personally I prefer the DBA coursework structure compared to PHD (each to his/her own preference I guess). Friends in the academic line shared that it is better to have qualifications from a variety of universities - e.g: if all your qualifications are from private/overseas universities, it is good to pursue your postgraduate in a public university for the feel of diversity. *still pondering about this though*

Well, until now I have not decided anything and still sitting on it. It looks like a whole lot of time, effort and $ 3-5 years for DBA? adui...

btw, good luck

Personally I feel the DBA program in USM is the best in Malaysia because it has the consultation component in it to which most universities do not have. I remember there is another public university in Malaysia which contain the consultation component. If I'm not mistaken, it's UM.

Coursework component + Consultation component + Thesis component

The rest of the other public universities' DBA contain no consultation component.

The consultation component is where you have to find a company who is willing to pay your consultation advice. At the end of the consultation activity, the company would evaluate you and if they don't like your advice, you would get low evaluation and you could potentially fail for this component. I was told that there are some who failed at this when their consultation was not effective.

When comes to the thesis component, of course it would not be as rigorous as a PhD thesis. I have browsed through and compared both DBA and PhD thesis, and I can see a huge difference between the two. A PhD thesis is more thorough and more rigorous, although the chapters/contents are the same between the two.

This post has been edited by Blofeld: Jun 13 2013, 12:10 PM

The other uni that offer consultation content is UIA, or IIUM, where u need to spend 6-9 months in a company if your choice, u give free consultation and you won't get paid. To me I don't like this kind of arrangement as it sound like a practical training by offering cheap labor.
Those who study part time will not able to leave their company to serve other company just to get some credit hours. Those who run their own biz or entreprenueur would not want to spend some time to work for others. It is more suitable for those who looking for employment.

I m not sure abt USM's arrangement but IIUM's DBA definately not for me.

DBA's research contents is differ from PhD in the way of it investigate the industry problems and provide solutions, same like consultancy approach. So the research content not necessary to hv theoretical frameworks where PhD always emphasize on it.

DBA's potential supervisors should come from the industry expert thus not necessary some1 purely from academic background.

Hi all,

I was wondering if you all could share where are the best places locally to pursue a DBA?

Regards

kobe8byrant

For those who are taking DBA now, may I know what are the major requirement for DBA thesis, how it differs from the PHD thesis examination ?
Some says phd more emphasize on theory, whist DBA more on market research, less on theory.

Its 2 year passed and yet myself not yet start my DBA. Anyone already into DBA, can tell what the journey experienced as such the commitment?

The reason i ask because myself is a married man with kids, and i run my own business. I just want to know and ensure myself can cope with the doctorate journey.

You want to make career U-turn in your late 40's?

Not a u-turn but just another option.

I ended up doing PhD instead of DBA.
There are very limited good DBA programs in Malaysia, and most examiners using PhD requirement to examine DBA thesis/dessertation, ended up DBA candidate take longer time to complete their study

Does DBA is more appropriate for ppl still want to pursuit his/her professional area/career rather than study Phd? While Phd is more to academic career?

This is the general perception.
I have seen Universities still recruiting DBA as academics
and also seen private firms hire PhD graduates in their organization.

I think the title is not important but what you can contribute to the organizations are more important. Employers have other criterias and requirements when they offer u a job.

"Got answers after I trolled the rest of the forums"

This post has been edited by mkdreamervl: Jul 30 2015, 02:51 PM

Would like to know more. Which universities?

Go to each university's academic, and click on their qualifications.
For public uni, UM, UPM, UKM has DBA grads at lecturer.
For private and foreign uni, Sunway, Taylor, Monash got DBA grads as lecturers

Not doubting the quality of DBAs, though they are doctorate degree, Universities, particularly research based, are more favour in PHD candidates... And after been to several DBA and PHD Viva, I can see the differences in term of research skills.. As far as im concerned, Sunway only has one or two DBA lecturers but have vast working experience (e.g, ex regional manager of a MNC company coz retired ady) and MMU so far has none.. not so sure..

This post has been edited by koaydarren: Oct 20 2015, 01:28 AM

DBA thesis stress on practical contributions, whereas PhD is more on theoretical contribution.
The approach is different.

But in general, i agree to your comments on the research quality/

Just wondering to people who have took DBA, is the lecturer generally PhD or they have work experiences and can share more practical knowledge?

I think most universities need both DBA and PhD graduates.
Usually DBA graduate with industry experiences are more capable in teaching MBA clasess
Whereas, Phd graduates are better in research and better in coaching/ supervising students doing research.

hi friends,


i still cant differentiate the role of moderator and mediator.

As far as i could remember,

(I) one is like a TOLL where it will directly affect the DV

(II) one is like REST & RELAX area where it might or it might not affect the DV.


please help me to clarify it

thanks

If u are a researcher u know where to find the answer

unfortunately i m not. jz started it without a proper guidance

And, one of the most important factor for me to select the PhD instead of DBA definitely will be the price matter. In my current Uni, the MBA and the other master management almost the same (my previous batch), as both of the subjects are considered the mixed-mode, and having the dissertation as well, but the price difference is really a big gap..

This post has been edited by strison: Nov 10 2015, 11:35 PM

what s the price diff between PhD and DBA?

DBA 48k, and PhD 16k, diff. will be around 32k, almost can be used to purchase the proton saga....

yeah, a significant different. Probably due to a lot of coursework involved,

This post has been edited by cheahcw2003: Nov 11 2015, 10:34 AM

Hi, I'm planning to pursue my DBA this year. Which are the few PRIVATE U that anyone here would recommend?

those DBA programs offered by private university college has no credibility, they portray themselves as selling certificates. No convincing research environment, not enough academics with PhD/ DBA qualifications to supervise students. Skip !!

Not recommend any DBA courses offered in Malaysia. Though the best would be UUM... Your cert will not be highly appreciated in overseas and will have little value due to credibility and rigorousity issue of the course..

if you don't intent to go oversea and if you manage to secure a lecturing job in local uni, it's a good deal.

Personally, DBA is not a best bang for buck unless it is from Ivy League or Oxbridge. It is more for researcher wanting to improve business senses without much entrepreneurship experiences (unless you have been in real business or at least management level) and study part time for MBA.

It is sensible to take DBA if you plan to stay in academia or already or plan to be hired by management consultancy giants (BCG, McKinsey)
Then again they won't give much hoot for a DBA from Segi.

Dear all,

Our Institute is starting our DBA preview on the 18th of January or 4th of February in Subang. We currently have a very good record conducting MBA programs for executive and recently a partnership with a university has given us the opportunity to conduct DBA too. You are welcometo join our preview session but I presumed you would have more questions before attending. You can contact me for more info.

These are some of the current info i have in my hands.

Total tuition Fee is approximately 46k ringgit
Awarding body by a prestige university in UK
Lecturers also from UK
Classes conducted in Subang

You can text me at 0122415198 or email me at kanesh.varma@lsclondon.co.uk to find out more or rsvp for preview.

Thanks.

PM more info.

Have u done DBA? congrats