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The New Mazda 6 V3, Calling all owners/fans to come here!!!

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zweimmk	Apr 1 2013, 11:08 AM Return to original view \| Post #21
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Apr 1 2013, 10:58 AM) No way the F30 is any better than the M6 in term of auto start-stop function. Personally and many review tested and proved. Majority of owners might still off it when they get in to the car, ask Blue. Still remember when I tested the 320d and 328i, I get amazed negatively upon their start-stop technology, I told myself, if I get this car, I will close this every time I get into the car. No different in M6 also, off it (i-Stop) every time after fire up the engine. The best auto start stop experience for me is Honda Insight and Honda Jazz Hybrid (never test Toyota Hybrid). Maybe due to their displacement, you can hardly notice even they restart itself. I didn't test the F30 enough to know. But what I do remember is I didn't notice the engine shutting off until the SA told me about it on the 320d. Actually on 3 separate occasions, I also didn't notice it going off while stopped at the traffic junction. But I do know that the Golf Mk7 implementation was also not noticed until the driver told me about it. When he tested it again to show me, I was quite impressed on the implementation. I should test the Honda Insight and Jazz Hybrid to see if it does the same thing. Another thing also could be with the displacement as you have said, but what I was told was, it's how the engine places it cylinder that affects the start up process. This is actually interesting, I will go read up on the technical details on why some engine start up are less noticeable than the others. Hopefully can find some articles on it.
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zweimmk	Apr 1 2013, 12:04 PM Return to original view \| Post #22
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Apr 1 2013, 11:57 AM) Shutting off should be smooth on every car, even in M6. But we are talking about judder during restart, not a good experience on both M6 and F30, at least for me. As for MK7, haven't experience it myself. Never stop itself in traffic but "auto-hold" does, not bad actually, no need to pull handbrake. No, the restart on the mk7 is very smooth, quiet and refined. Similarly when I tested the F30, the engine restart wasn't particularly obvious to me until the SA pointed it out on 2 different occasions. It isn't a problem, rather, this is an issue of refinement. The overall impact it has on the driving experience is minimal at best.
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zweimmk	Apr 1 2013, 12:27 PM Return to original view \| Post #23
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Apr 1 2013, 12:15 PM) True enough, refinement does play apart. Anyway, I don't accept this kind of technologies just yet. Wonder how much fuel you can save on this. Can this shorter the life span of engine? Probably 1% at most? That's being optimistic. Whether or not will shorten engine life, probably not. Your bigger concern should be carbon build up because of direct injection technology but again only think about this when your car hits 100k km milestone
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zweimmk	Apr 2 2013, 08:17 AM Return to original view \| Post #24
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(wsc80 @ Apr 2 2013, 08:06 AM) Wonder after market can installed this system or not ? so nice to have After market systems go all sorts of system to suit every budget. Higher end systems than this also got, lower end systems than this also available. The sky is the limit!
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zweimmk	Apr 4 2013, 01:28 PM Return to original view \| Post #25
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(wsc80 @ Apr 4 2013, 01:06 PM) Anyone install this before ? "GPS TRACKER" can share is it worth ? You mean a system like Connex? It's pricey but worth it if you think your car is likely to be stolen. You will almost always recover your car with this system. I would spend that money if I was driving a BMW M6 but not if it's a Mazda 6 or similar category car.
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zweimmk	Apr 4 2013, 04:14 PM Return to original view \| Post #26
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(wsc80 @ Apr 4 2013, 04:10 PM) i saw something like this in website http://www.lelong.com.my/spy-gsm-gprs-gps-...7-01-Sale-I.htm just to play safe since the amount not so much and just need sim card to trace Only if the Police mobilize fast enough to take action. If not... That's why system like Captor and Connex cost so much, they actually have people mobilized to retrieve your vehicle for you.
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zweimmk	Apr 5 2013, 08:06 AM Return to original view \| Post #27
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fadzly @ Apr 4 2013, 10:32 PM) Ok la. Dari xda terus. No need autolevelling, manual enough. No need adaptive conering. All those involved many mods to the system. For me, Enough for the drl and the halo lamps. Not quite sure others. If they can be fully fx like a 2.5 headlamps, then its a bonus for me. Neo_Y is right. Even if you could retrofit the headlights to the 2.5 version, there's nothing you can do to fix the ECU programming because the difference between the 2.5L and 2.0L ECU is also a matter of sensors involved. And I'm pretty sure the headlamp won't cost 1k after all the tax and trouble they take to bring it in. You'd be lucky if they charge you just RM2500 for it, and then there's a matter of putting in all the sensors and reprogramming or refitting a new headlamp ECU to ensure the AFS and AL function is working without any error. It's actually quite a lot of work.
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zweimmk	Apr 5 2013, 11:01 AM Return to original view \| Post #28
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Either go for the optimum coating or gzox if you got the cash to spend. Those should be very very good
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zweimmk	Apr 8 2013, 09:32 AM Return to original view \| Post #29
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fadzly @ Apr 7 2013, 03:03 PM) Ive no faith on vw now. Tested mk7. Wth! With that kind of price, u should bring in more specs inside the car. I rather stay with my myvi than buying those golf. Meanwhile got snap a pic with a cc back just now. methinks you didn't test the mk7 enough to know what you're talking about. Yes, it could use a little more kit for the price, I agree. But ride, handling, comfort and refinement etc. That is way better than so many cars out there. To say that you rather stay on the myvi... wow, that really takes the cake.
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zweimmk	Apr 9 2013, 01:51 PM Return to original view \| Post #30
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Ng Eng Chong @ Apr 9 2013, 01:35 PM) Off topic: Recent discount from German machines BMW 520d= 30k discount + 5 years warranty + 5 years free service 528i= 25k discount + 5 years warranty + 5 years free service Mercedes C250= 60k discount (238,xxx) E250= 100k discount (308,xxx) EOL for the C class already. Next year new model will come. The E class also probably because facelift version is coming. The 5 series LCI should be around the corner as well. Good time to look at these rides if you got the money to burn.
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zweimmk	Apr 9 2013, 02:48 PM Return to original view \| Post #31
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fadzly @ Apr 9 2013, 01:30 PM) A review by singapore Kisashi vs m6 vs camry http://www.sgcarmart.com/news/review.php?AID=580 Compare against the 2.0l Camry? What the heck? Did they run out of 2.5V test cars? LOL!
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zweimmk	Apr 9 2013, 08:59 PM Return to original view \| Post #32
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(fadzly @ Apr 9 2013, 07:55 PM) LOL. Not quite sure why they want to compare with the 2.0. Afraid singaporean would not buy if 2.5 dont have the vsc. Makes no diff, that country is small. In residential areas, there's a traffic light every 300 to 500m. The lack of safety features there is not so big of an issue IMO.
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zweimmk	Apr 11 2013, 09:16 AM Return to original view \| Post #33
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(wsc80 @ Apr 11 2013, 07:54 AM) wow so impress A lot of it is highway, it's very normal to be able to achieve that kind of FC
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zweimmk	Apr 11 2013, 10:18 AM Return to original view \| Post #34
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(IMF @ Apr 11 2013, 10:13 AM) Guys lately not much cars being allocated to customer is it cause don't see many people getting it! Bermaz got issue with AP?? I saw 2 Mazda 6 yesterday. One grey colored car with either WWE/WWF plate in Aman Suria. Does that car belong to anyone here? The other is a white ride along Federal highway
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zweimmk	Apr 11 2013, 07:39 PM Return to original view \| Post #35
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Toyota, Nissan, Honda and Mazda announced they are recalling vehicles because of faulty airbags. Best check with your local dealer to see if the new Mazda 6 is affected or not
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zweimmk	Apr 14 2013, 10:45 AM Return to original view \| Post #36
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(EvOliver @ Apr 14 2013, 10:28 AM) [Sharing] I just browsed through tyre prices today, and following are tyres for this new Mazda6: (as of April 14, 2013) //forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2055801&view=findpost&p=59659143 225/45R19 TOYO TALU - RM 1085 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas //forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2055801&view=findpost&p=59659140 225/55R17 BRIDGESTONE POTENZA RE002 - RM 1062 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas BRIDGESTONE POTENZA S001 - RM 1191 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas CONTINENTAL PREMIUM CONTACT 2 - RM 586 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas Goodyear Assurance FuelMax - RM 508 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas Goodyear Blue Streak Stiletto - RM 484 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas Goodyear Eagle F1 Directional 5 - RM 544 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas Goodyear Efficient Grip - RM 781 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas Goodyear Excellence ROF - RM 1539 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas KUMHO KH 31 - RM 380 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas KUMHO KU 31 - RM 486 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas Michelin PS3 - RM650 Hup Shun SS3 (Sept 12) V+B MICHELIN LATITUDE TOUR HP - RM 888 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas MICHELIN PRIMACY LC - RM 657 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas Nexen N6000 - RM350 Hua Hin Sg.Besi (oct'12) PIRELLIN P7 CINT - RM 1201 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas PIRELLIN P7 - RM 592 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas PIRELLIN P7 CINT Rof - RM 955 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas PIRELLIN S-STR - RM 1087 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas SILVERSTONE KRUIZER 1 NS500 - RM 435 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas TOYO DRB - RM 615 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas TOYO PROXES C15 - RM 634 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas TOYO PROXES T1 SPORT - RM 697 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas TOYO PROXES T1R - RM 627 3S Specialists Ara D'sara (Apr-13) B+A+N.Gas Okay la, the 17 inch looks like the prices I'd expect to pay. The 19 inch. Expensive oh. 4 tires = 4k.
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zweimmk	Apr 16 2013, 07:59 AM Return to original view \| Post #37
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(lovehewit @ Apr 15 2013, 04:46 PM) I almost paid my downpayment yesterday for the 2.5 but I was shocked and changed my mind after I did a rough check on the 2nd hand value, it depreciated so much after 2 years to less than ard 120k. Much worst than Camry, and that almost on par with the depreciated rate of BMW, MB etc. Then I checked Passat CC and after 2 years, the car still stands ard 180k. That's very good for a conti car! Thus, I don't know which one to get anymore. I mean, i rather top up 30k to get CC cos it holds better 2nd hand value and better quality I persume, but then, if I top up another 15k, I can get the new 320i which BMW always my fav brand. Gosh. So confusing! Whether if it is short term or long term, the Mz6 will lose more money than the Camry/Accord. This can change depending on how well the current model sells, the more popular the car is, the higher its resale value will be. As a personal opinion, I don't think it is likely this will happen. Short term (3 years or less) = ? Long term (greater than 4 years) = around 4 to 6% less than the previous generation Camry based on the previous model record. The reason why the depreciation for the previous model dropped so much was because Bermaz also offered some strong discounts to clear previous gen Mz6 stocks. At least that's what I think happened. For me, the biggest issue with the Mz6 is you are paying more money for a more expensive and better kitted Mazda and still likely to losing more money in depreciation compared to the more Kosong Camry in the 2.5L category. No issue between the Mazda 6 2.0L vs Camry G 2.0L, because prices are closer to each other. The Mazda 6 Skyactiv 2.5 is a good car. It's just not well priced IMO. Not when you consider the options available. As for the new CC, it will never compare well against the BMW, Audi or Mercedes. It won't have the prestige if that's what you're after. But it is a class better because it's a sports coupe and the most value for money one available. Simply put, what you get is a bigger, more practical and better kitted 4 door D-segment sports coupe compared to an entry level luxury C segment sedan.
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zweimmk	Apr 17 2013, 03:19 PM Return to original view \| Post #38
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Neo_Y @ Apr 17 2013, 03:08 PM) As for 17", I prefer the luxury line one. The five spoke rim on 320i sport line look small and cheap. 328i 18" look way better in every trim. It used to be that the 320i was the poor man's ticket to an affordable luxury marque. Now, at least the 320i has got some ooompfh to make it somewhat worthwhile. The car to get would still be the 328i though. Thing is, now that you drive a D-segment car, would you want to go back to a C segment car? Even if its luxury marque? I can't imagine myself wanting to do so at the moment. This post has been edited by zweimmk: Apr 17 2013, 03:52 PM
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zweimmk	Apr 17 2013, 03:55 PM Return to original view \| Post #39
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(blu3 @ Apr 17 2013, 03:51 PM) If you drive a D seg car, suggest you straight go to 5series or A6, pug 508 ford fusion would be nice as well We'll see. From Passat leap to 5 series or E class is a huge financial jump. You can basically buy 1/1/2 Passat for the asking price of a normal 5 series, E class or A6. If I make 20k to 30k steady nett per month, then no need to blink twice.
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zweimmk	Apr 18 2013, 06:57 AM Return to original view \| Post #40
On my way Senior Member 512 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(lovehewit @ Apr 18 2013, 12:43 AM) Every time I come here I feel I'm loving M6 more. Haha. Guys I'm that close to join the club, I get rid of VW from my mind, but....who knows now someone is offering me a 2010 A4 2.0 (less than 30k mileage) and 2011 C200. I'm so tempted! The only thing holding me back now is with that kind of money should I go for the new M6 2.5? On the other hand, the only thing holding me to pay for the A4 is I read a lot about this model has engine oil issue which kinda freak me out Then come this face lifted c200which is considered a balance between the two. Less problem I guessed compare to A4 yet more prestigious than a M6? Among these 3, which one should I go for? Sigh! A4 isn't a big car. Badge of course more prestigious. 2010 model is the pre-facelift version - unless the price is right, I wouldn't even bother. And yes, engine oil must top up, depending on how you drive - some people never, some people top up every 4k or 5k or 6k or even some only at the 8k point. Just 1L only, no big deal. W204 C class already end of life this year (W205 spyshots out next year). You can get a NEW C250 for 230k, that's a bargain! The money you pay for the Mz6 qualify you for the following cars: Passat Sportline P508 Premium, Top up another 10k for P508 GT Camry 2.5V New Accord (to launch later this year) Teana 2.5 My opinion: Mazda 2.0 will be the bargain buy, Mazda 2.5L will be better kitted but the sticker price is a tough pill to swallow.
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