QUOTE(sootienann @ Oct 12 2015, 12:06 AM)
kid, u really need to learn how to read specs. your linked reference shows that camry hybrid has a combined total of 200 bhp from its 2.5 liter engine and electric motor. and for sure it has a heck of a lot more torque than the 2.5 skyactiv. u should ban yourself from this forum for such an embaressing mistake.
as you yourself admitted, on fuel consumption "Of coz hybrid will win".
as you yourself admitted, on NVH "Ok, i let u win with this only point". and FYI good NVH is one of the main reason why most people buy a D segment Japanese sedan.
if people wanted sporty with good handling they would probably go for other segment cars.
so u admit that camry hybrid is good value for money ?
I mean rear passenger legroom and shoulder width and headroom. as before , good interior passenger space and storage compartments is one of the major factor to consider when buying a D segment japan sedan.
looks are subjective. I can also say camry looks young and sporty.
who are u to argue with me ? are u a famous car designer ? if no, then your opinion regarding looks counts for as little as my opinion.
camry has the ability to move at slow speeds with the engine off. so what features does mazda 6 have that camry doesn't have ?
ieloop ? don't make me laugh. ieloop capacitors contribute to maybe extra 0.1 km per liter fuel consumption?
so childish . I suspect u haven't got your drivers license yet.
19 inch rims come with its own set of problems when u encounter poor roads , bengkok rims, changing expensive new tyres , etc etc.
19 inch rim will have better handling. 17 inch will have better ride.
as before , better check your facts. camry hybrid is more powerful in the first place, so why would mazda 6 have a better power to weight ratio ? I haven't even start to discuss torque yet.
boring is subjective. no doubt camry its common on the road.
here comes the best part: nowhere did the article say that "mazda 6 win". are u telling lies here ? u better not lie here because I can quote you and quote the article verbatim.
or maybe your English is not good enough to understand the article , in which case u should go back to school
before you calling someone kid, you shall check the background of the posters or at least have the courtesy of reading back past two (almost three) version of mazda6 threads.
HP and Torque on paper are practically useless if you cant put all that on the road. If you can put Camry Hybrid torque on a twisting road to be used, i would say you are professional driver. However in real life, camry chassis is so dumb that it might skidded off the road if you wanted to fully utilized the torque. Actually the mazda6 2.0 already sufficient to beat hands down on both accord2.4 and camry hybrid 2.5 on a twisting road that required a lot of usable torque and the chassis balance.
NVH is never being a strong point of Japanese sedan, any euro D segment give you much more pleasure. But, please be reminded of CKD and CBU quality and finishing. You may not have any strong point to deny the perfectionist of the Japanese at Hiroshima in producing car, compare to local cheap labor assembling the car for you.
In term of fuel consumption, without Hybrid our friend here "fadzly" able to achieve up to 1000KM in one real full tank scenario. FC is about the way you drive, hybrid dont help you much if you drive like a maniac like me. Comparing what i'm getting 450+-KM per tank which is good, as i travelling 120-160kph regularly. Its way better than my turbo vios only achieving 250km per tank
19" is about handling and look (subjective) so its factory fitted unless you changed to 18" which is more balance between handling and FC. If you really do want talk about power to weight ratio, you may want to check for the facts mazda6 is much lighter and have similar torque/hp. Mathematical calculation already leaning towards to mazda6, if you put both on the road there goes your camry hybrid.
Not sure who telling lies, could be mazda pay hell-a-lot of money to the car magazine and reviewer to have NCAP 5 stars, best in term of handling, best in term of real FC, 0-100kph in 7.x seconds, finalist of World Car Design of the Year 2014, blah blah. though i cant find any track time test for camry hybrid, else i can compare it.
Design wise, i doubt anyone can tell you camry is beautiful. if you just want to bigger car with slight better NVH and comfort from point A to B.
Hence what general common people perception its an "uncle car"