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post Mar 21 2013, 01:02 PM

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oh crap~~~ means I'll have to install every single games into the HDD first before I can play them doh.gif doh.gif

no more just pop in the new disc for few minutes fun then change back to your usual game doh.gif

normal DVD already took around 10-15mins per disc for the installation, bluray full install?
can up to 1 hour??? doh.gif
if that's the case, lets hope we can do a background install while we play other game or perform other tasks, unlike the current gen there's nothing much you can do while installing

Also if installing is mandatory, I wonder how they are going to enforce the no 2nd hand game policy hmm.gif only method I can think of is thru online registration, either tie the game unique ID to the console via a centralized database, or via a one time activation code thru online again....
So no more offline play? doh.gif

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post Mar 21 2013, 01:11 PM

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ah... good news after reading the text in the video
"An installation system is being designed that will allowed gamers to start playing while the game is being install on the HDD rather waiting until the installation is complete" thumbup.gif

but always on, always connected??? lets hope they support offline play
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post Apr 5 2013, 10:39 AM

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One the book and the current leak specs, it seems awesome
bundled HD kinect with minimum 0.5m distance are great for us with limited space.
Also better movement detection in low light also is a plus
Swapping apps/games instantly? another plus

But always on connection required to launch games & launch apps? a major minus for me
with crappy internet access here?
And if they were to really implement this.... I won't be buying the Durango until they remove that feature

Sos chili:
http://kotaku.com/the-next-xbox-will-requi...to-st-470062456

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post Apr 9 2013, 08:44 AM

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No backward compatibility cry.gif
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-08/m...ox-console.html
Well... as expected lar when they switched from powerpc to x86 platform sad.gif


Official announcement should be on 21 May yawn.gif
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/8/4195954/m...x-event-for-may
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post Apr 9 2013, 08:51 AM

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yeah... no backward compatibility is a bad news for hoarder like us
need to switch between 2 consoles to play diff gen games...
even worst for multi-console players, imagine switching between Wii U, PS3, PS4, Xbox360, Xbox720 doh.gif

anyway... on a side note
since both next gen console are going for the x86 platform, similar to PC
so it means it will be much easier to emulate those games on PCs?? hmm.gif

Last time it's difficult to emulate xbox/PS1/PS2 because diff platform, the PC CPU has pump out extra power to emulate diff platform
but now it's similar, hence less effort to emulate the CPU, so just need to emulate the GPU, hence easier?? hmm.gif

will next gen sees PC gamer playing PS4/Xbxo720 titles on PC also? hmm.gif

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post Apr 9 2013, 09:24 AM

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if it's on x86 platform, then it's easier to crack since it's more common tongue.gif
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post Apr 11 2013, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(DanielPodolski @ Apr 11 2013, 11:01 AM)
Guys,would you think this is a great idea or not but do not hesitate to comment.

You guys know Netflix and those streaming movies/shows applications on the consoles right? Since next generation consoles are coming out soon,we should be able to use those apps without using VPN right? Seem like a much more better solution because some people like me who doesn't understand how to create a VPN would save a lot of time.

And different console architecture or not, Microsoft need to have that backward compatibility..you know..just to give Sony a smack in their faces. I'm no fanboy but am a big fan of both.
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nope, the restriction will be there forever due to regional licensing issue
so VPN is still a must to catch those media apps from US, because the service provider checks your IP address, nothing to do with the console you're using.

changing of console architecture effectively removed the backward compatibility
it's will be extremely difficult to reprogram the new chips to run old games, and most of the time it won't run smoothly
it's like trying to run a PS2 emulator on PC, it will be full of bugs & error, so I rather not have it at all

Also another news today, it will come with a HDMI IN port as well!
ppl suspect it will be use as the interface for your sat/cab box
which I think will be pretty useless for most of us outside US
Marriage between Asstro & Xbox? in yer dream! tongue.gif

And lastly, another feature I'm concern about it, Region lock? hmm.gif

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post May 22 2013, 08:46 AM

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well... wasn't that the ugliest baby I've ever seen...

well... typical westerner designers, all square and edge and bulky = UGLY!!!

doesn't seems like you'll to be able put it vertically doh.gif

also one time activation code for game installation? frack yea... doh.gif
did MS bought the online pass from EA? that's why EA stop using it? hmm.gif
you can expect more XB1 used game plastered with the user account info on it

so if you want to sell your used games, create a new account just for that new game
play it with other account on your console
finish the game, stick the new account username/password on it, and sell
buy new game/old game
that how I think can bypass the stupid one time activation code restriction...

anyhooo.... I won't be first one to jump on the next gen bandwagon, even if it's launched officially here in MY end of the year or next year...

overall.... a very disappointing next gen console

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post May 22 2013, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ May 22 2013, 08:59 AM)
I dunno why but I feel eager to throw money to endure next gen lol

I missed my chance when Wii U was RM1500+ over here...
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unfortunately WiiU aren't doing so well now, as many publishers aren't supporting them
Nintendo themselves will have be blamed as well, as they are lacking in producing their own killer games doh.gif
my friend's WiiU are collecting dust already

next gen? I'm almost fall asleep here already yawn.gif
wake me up when it's the next next gen yawn.gif
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post May 22 2013, 09:32 AM

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they should just cancel the E3 once and for all, it's getting duller each year yawn.gif
*continue sleeping yawn.gif
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post May 22 2013, 10:51 AM

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only thing i like is the new controller
finally they fixed the stupid D-pad
and the new rumble trigger
and glad they keep the AA batt as power source, but I see there's a mini USB port there as well, maybe it came with a charge function as well? hmm.gif

high speed data port at the bottom? whatever that's for.... rolleyes.gif
my bet it's gonna to be under utilized wink.gif
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post May 22 2013, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(sirknieghf @ May 22 2013, 05:07 PM)
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so, if i buy a used game, i still need to pay fees for my account..deal breaker  mad.gif
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can use my method to bypass the restriction to avoid paying fees for 2nd account yawn.gif

just that the used game buyers will have lots of extra account in his/her console laugh.gif

Still no news from Gamestop on this used game thingy hmm.gif
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post May 23 2013, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 22 2013, 05:32 PM)
I don't know if you'd rather listen to him or Micrsoft VP - Phil Harrison.
I'd take Phil's word any day lol... the second account needs to pay.
Uhm... there's a flaw with your method.
If the game has multiplayer (which most likely, majority of next-gen games will) and if people still need a Gold account to access online capabilities, then what?

Sign up new account + subscribe to Gold + pay fees for 2nd account = how much? Might as well just buy new.

Gamestop doesn't mind because as long as they're concerned, they still get to sell used games. Users have to pay MS for the fee, not them. Gamestop still earn from second hand sales regardless, that's why they're fine with it.
Renters like GameFly though... hmm, this will be a prob for them.
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I think you didn't get my idea sweat.gif

XB1 new rules:
- all games comes with a one time activation code that's going to tie to the whatever account activates it
- game will be playable on the console where that account is, just need to sign into that account, and play using other account, no fees required
- if you were to sell that game, a 2nd hand buyer will have to pay a full RRP to re-activate the game on his/her account

the new account for new game just create normal one, then install game
you won't need gold on the new account for MP, just need it for installation

Let's say I bought a new Halo5 game, which I intend to sell it off after I finish it
I'll create a new silver account on my box, lets say halo5@gmail.com, just for the activation & installation
sign into my original gold account, gr3yshadow@gmail.com, play SP, MP kau-kau until I'm bored
Sell it to you, with the halo5@gmail.com info
you got the game, recover the halo5@gmail.com account from live
install d game, switch to your own gold account, and WIN!
Zero fees involve! wink.gif


Gamestop won't be fine with this re-activation for a fee move, unless they are willing to let the sellers stick their account info on those used game disc, as MS more or less already (kinda) confirmed 2nd hand buyer will need to pay RRP for the re-activation. Why would I pay a full price for a used game from Gamstop? might as well buy new?

rentals like Gamefly will have to reach an agreement with MS, maybe to have a special activation code that can be used multiple times for rental purpose, with a special fee paid to MS?


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post May 23 2013, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(paanjang16 @ May 22 2013, 09:52 PM)
Read about the latest XBOX One. Was thinking, does M$ seriously do not give a #$#@! about its customers?

From what I have read, meed to install the game to play, disk come with a code to install the game.. which is essentially what my PC can do and more. Basically it is like Steam.

So no more testing out the disk at a friend's house, my friends can forget about borrowing my Xbox game disk since it is tied to an account, need to install.. ALL LIKE A PC!

The only reason I may want to buy a console is due to the fact I can pop in the disk and start sawing locusts in Gears of War/head-shotting elites in Halo within 5 minutes of the starting console while my pc have to download/install the entire game which might take 1-2 hours just to install. Now M$ has thrown the very advantage of having a console into the drain.

You know what, @!#@!# this XBOX One. This comes from someone who has a Xbox 360 and has never mod it because I want to stay original. But in my years of ownership:-
1) I had to pay for Xbox Live. Gave up paying after a while since there is no real advantage to having a Gold Live account when I have a pc
2) Since I live in Malaysia there is no proper way to cancel the Xbox Live Gold. You know in the end how I stopped the Gold? When the credit card number expired! You know why I had to let it go that way?
3) M$ only has Singapore among the list of countries supported for XBOX Live Gold. Till today, MALAYSIA IS STILL NOT among the list of countries supported by Xbox Live.
4) Then I kena 1 3ROD
5) Had to sent it to Singapore to get it replaced since M$ is to lazy to set up region in Malaysia. Luckily had a friend to help me get it replaced. But it could save alot of trouble had they had an office here and their frigging console works properly
6) All this stupid DRM even for the hardware. Want to use a wifi dongle on your console? Well you need to buy the official one which costs SO MUCH MORE than a generic one, yet works the same
7) Oh, want a bigger hard drive? Well prepare to pay some serious money for an official one where a generic one can have so much more capacity and yet costs less. Oh, the PS3 can upgrade to any HDD size you like btw. ... ok so I had to make do with my current drive but...
the current one broke down, so which means I need to buy an overpriced one and not simply buy a generic laptop HDD to replace it.

.. and now M$ wants to turn their console in a PC, but with less modabilty, more draconian DRM, more overpriced accessories & features which if I am living ONLY in the US will benefit me. Dear M$, if I want to game like a having a pc, I would BUY A PC.

If I want to buy a console, the PS4 looks like a better choice. Hell even the Wii U looks good... and this is coming from someone who has a 360 but never bought a PS3.
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you won't need to wait for hours like PC for the game installation
it's already confirmed that XB1 will run the game the instant you pop in the disc, the installation is a background process, you can play the game while the installation is ongoing yawn.gif

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post May 23 2013, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ May 23 2013, 02:24 PM)
No man, read this again:
So, with your method of passing halo5@gmail.com around will only partially work. Because whatever it is, that account needs to be a Gold account if we want online access of a game.
Microsoft does NOT allow a user to use an account just to activate the game on an account it was bought for and then it will be playable for anyone's profile on the same system, they're not that stupid.

If Microsoft abolishes the 2-tier system of Xbox Live, then of course this will entirely change and your method will instantly work. They've not said anything about if Xbox Live Gold and Silver will continue so far, just stating that it will be built on and revamped for the Xbox One.
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well...

Speaking to us at the big event in Redmond today, Microsoft corporate vice president Phil Harrison clarified a couple of details about the system's used game policy and explained that there will be a solution for people who want to trade games with their friends.

Here's how the system works: when you buy an Xbox One game, you'll get a unique code that you enter when you install that game. You'll have to connect to the Internet in order to authorize that code, and the code can only be used once. Once you use it, that game will then be linked to your Xbox Live account. "It sits on your harddrive and you have permission to play that game as long as you’d like," Harrison said.

Other users on the console will be able to play that game as well, Harrison said. So you don't need to buy multiple games per family. "With the built-in parental controls of the system it is shared amog the users of the device," he said.

Sos Kicap http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trad...icros-509140825


I hope it's similar to the current GoD/Arcade game setting, my friend decided to quit his xbox gaming totally, so he gave me his xbox silver account, which he bought a few DLC & arcade games with it.
I recover his profile on my box, re-download his arcade games & DLCs that I can use, log off once download is done, log into my own profile, I can access all the games from his profile, doesn't even need to login his profile anymore, as long as his profile is sitting in my console. No issues with the MP as well
Lets hope MS keep it this way in the XB1 wink.gif

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post May 28 2013, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ May 27 2013, 08:20 AM)
BF4 official launch is Oct.14

There is a possibility that PS4/XB1 launch before that date.
I'm holding off all PS3/X360 game purchase until then..
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XB1/PS4 launch before Oct 14???

impossible la...
it's just few more months till oct, and some more they still haven't finalized everything, it will be a super duper rush job for both to launch it in Oct
even if they make it, it will be a total disaster launch wink.gif
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post May 28 2013, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ May 28 2013, 10:35 AM)
What haven't finalized yet? Most unconfirmed 'features' of Xbox One are on the software-side, which can be updated after release.
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don't forget the ground work, the logistic and everything and MS has to come out with
and the news of XB1 from MS officials are still contradicting each others.
heck, even the list of launch titles are not fully confirmed yet
if they were to launch in Oct, all of the launch title have to be in gold status by now for printing & packaging & distribution

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post Jun 11 2013, 02:50 PM

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won't get any of the next gen so soon, not this year, nor next year
gonna wait for at least one year before getting any of these

my current gen consoles still can last me for a very very long time wink.gif
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post Jun 20 2013, 10:44 AM

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Huzzah!!!!! Gamers WINS!!! rclxm9.gif

but.... still won't be going for day1 XB1 tongue.gif
gonna wait until either price drop or no surprised issues there tongue.gif
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post Jul 26 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(navigator @ Jul 25 2013, 11:10 AM)
+1

I realized most ppl just fall in this PR fiasco for the sake of painting M$ as the badguy (which ironically, badguy always win hmm.gif )
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mana ada badguys always win?

tengok all the recent blockbuster movies... badguys all mati tongue.gif laugh.gif

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