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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB v41, GaGa The Crap Car

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post Mar 23 2013, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 23 2013, 03:41 AM)
reached Penang!! biggrin.gif
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conform? hmm.gif
actually one thing came across my mind is that yab's gear was in reverse n upon starting the car, why it did not jerk n mati enjin ha? hmm.gif no clutch was applied and it still keep going backwards till i turn the key again to off the enjin sweat.gif

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Mar 23 2013, 01:31 AM)
all stock meh ? i dont think so lor... my car can have turbo BOV sound also ma... next TT i demo let u see ~ tongue.gif
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my car inside got...erm... open pork, FS n bosch platinium IR plugs n thats about it...

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post Mar 23 2013, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 23 2013, 08:08 AM)
why when I woke up, I at KL one...

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ur fellow tetikus fren brought u back KL while ur asleep nod.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 23 2013, 08:13 AM)
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If u r seated inside, the 1st crank u realized gear engaged then u will automatically release your key switch. So the car won't start on the 1st crank. Yesterday incident was, when u turn the key u r OUTSIDE. Holding the key for more than a second means more than 4 cranks, which is a complete cycle of our 4 stroke engine. Yes. The car will start be it with gear or neutral laugh.gif This trick normally used when the clutch cover is too weak/loss function, even stepping on the clutch pedal, the clutch cover unable to release clutch plate from flywheel, the engine will be choke off automatically when wheels are stop. So, if u see someone crank the car until it move, most probably their clutch cover is dead. Sorry for the bad experience, not the first time happened to my car since I know Luke whistling.gif I myself kena 2 times from him ady doh.gif Forgot to warn u yesterday laugh.gif
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so ur car can change put tuned by LG2KC...

Luke Gear 2 Kali Check whistling.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 23 2013, 08:16 AM)
must be you who supplied them with turbo. vmad.gif vmad.gif
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sueprcharger oneeeeee whistling.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 11:08 AM

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i went for a drive again today and couldn't help playing the vacuum sound that YAB praised...perhaps u guys n him are right. i placed too high expectation out of a 35k CRAP car...n when others experienced my car and tell me its gooding i almost couldn't believe it. tongue.gif
i guess i aimed for the moon and i have now landed on stars... rclxms.gif
so crap cars are still cars depending on how you shape the car. as for me, i wanted flex.gif

one more thing YAB i realise that its not vacuum sound... its a DEMON breathing inside as my ride is a Proton Demonic Saga-Z icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 23 2013, 09:59 PM)
Just saw these nice photos, which to share with you guys nod.gif

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how the hell dugong can side sex those cars... doh.gif
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post Mar 23 2013, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 23 2013, 10:06 PM)
you put lego there, already void dashboard warranty.  whistling.gif
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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post Mar 24 2013, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 24 2013, 06:30 PM)
Dugong rattling sound in cabin = normal, car drive so many kilometer ady, sure got some vibration geh

Gaga rattling sound in cabin = manufacture defect, must use insuflex to fix it

Dugong 4AT broken = normal, 5 years car ady gearbox rosak is normal

Gaga 4AT broken = manufacturing defect. The day bought car ady know 1 day it will rosak, just wasn't expect it only lasted 5 years

Hongda Chitty iDSI CVT belt slip thoroughly, overhaul need 7k. Its normal coz the car been driven many years, spend 7k to repair is small price to pay for such comfort ride + fuel safe technology

GaGa implemented CVT 2 years ago, I already know someday it will rosak. Although until today still no trouble report, but I'm sure know soon all CVT owners will regret they bought such new tech from Plotong. Why? Coz Plotong never made it right, CVT will be 1 of them whistling.gif
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u found ur vacuum meter for me ar? any other goodie? post all together nod.gif
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post Mar 24 2013, 07:11 PM

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YAB luke

i noticed something after i installed the Ular Oren. and i actually notice this when i was monitoring both ur car's vacuum gauge when i was in luke's car 1st on monday and friday night in YAB's car. upon stepping on the accelerator the vacuum gauge did show that accelerator was pressed but not the RPM meter. today after i install the Ular Oren, upon stepping on accelerator the engine sound roared but the RPM meter was having delay...i tested several times and as you know my engine noise was VERY loud this is very obvious that engine response after the ULAR OREN IMPROVED but the RPM meter was the one having the delay...even the Demon inside responded the moment i step on the accelerator after Ular Oren! so my next question is...will the drive by wire delay actually is affecting RPM meter instead of engine response? and have anyone gotten another RPM meter in the car and monitor it instead?

maybe someone else should try my theory and use their ears to hear on the engine sound instead of looking at RPM meter alone to back up my theory? thanks! notworthy.gif

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post Mar 24 2013, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 24 2013, 07:38 PM)
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Drive by wire no delay, ignition timing & injector repond time got whistling.gif When u hit the gas pedal, immediately u hear suction sound is bcoz throttle respond time cut down, but the ignition timing and injector response time still not much affect, hence the actual effect was not affecting HORSE POWER. The car still lag despite throttle improve, but was not assisted by the crusial sparks and fuel injection. You can put expansive tacho meter, but I don't think there's any different whistling.gif You will still see lag on the reading, bcoz RPM was calculated based on 1-4-3-2 ignition firing timing to justify the crankshaft being turned 1 round when 4 pistons all being fired subsequently yawn.gif Do let me know if u find aftermarket/external tachometer can rectify the delay.
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i wasn't mentioning on kuda powah...cos if a cable add kuda into the car ho seh liao! brows.gif
just the engine roar almost immediately that i can hear...engine roar does not mean throttle body open, air went in, plug sparks n fuel injected and then burn ar? if no air,sparks n fuel how to roar? no roar no crankshaft turning? rclxub.gif
if i can get a 2nd hand cheap tachometer i will test n see...maybe get from my fren's wira n test... hmm.gif
but wheres my vacuum meter? drool.gif

this Defi got so cheap? fake eh? Defi BF Link Meter

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post Mar 24 2013, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 24 2013, 08:30 PM)
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Ofcoz fake Defi la. Real deal where got so cheap?

I don't know how ular oren can help on a grounding point that improve throttle response, but 1 thing for sure the injection timing being slightly corrected according to Mahihi.

Our throttlebody by stock was NOT lag. The 1st thing I install on every car I own will be a vacuum meter, then performance filter. From the moment I got my vacuum reading, I almost confirmed our throttlebody was NOT lag. Later I got myself performance filter, to find myself experience more lag & lossing low end torque, immediately I jumped to a conclusion, which is TB oversized whistling.gif I think our S4PE throttlebody diameter almost can fight with a Cacamy ady doh.gif When oversized throttle opened whilst the car standstill, meaning A/F lean on low end torque, which is exactly why RPM aint moving up soon enough. Engine roar does not mean the revving speed is keeping up. You can put a racing carburetor on a 660 kancil, go WOT and see whether the tiny little car roar? It does, but RPM probably only move a little bit.
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so ur defi also fake? hmm.gif understood for the RPM n oversized TB...man gaga is simply crap...so basically there is no other option to eliminate the lag lo? rclxub.gif
about ignition timing, those adjustable cam gears n high cam thingy will help?

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post Mar 24 2013, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Mar 24 2013, 09:11 PM)
Hi Everyone!  notworthy.gif

Juz 2contribute a lil bit... tongue.gif

My point of view...of our chosen means of transport...

a) As long as it starts every morning when me need to use it, me am happy...
b) As long as it gets me from point A to point B & back again safely, me am happy...
c) As long as its FC varies acc2 my usage (Hiway/City/Mixed), me am happy...
d) As long as there's a way 2rectify/overcome any minor "irritations" that may appear from time2time, me am happy...
e) As long as watever is done to it (additions/mod/DIY) does not make it worse, me am happy...

IMHO Life would indeed be a pleasant experience if we are thankful 4wat we oledi hv....
Like a popular saying...let's count our blessings! cheers.gif

Me rber someone's quote..."He who is Thankful is Happy...."
True?  icon_rolleyes.gif

Bro YAB David
ps. Welcome Home, Bro YAB!!  thumbup.gif  notworthy.gif
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post Mar 24 2013, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(zeone @ Mar 24 2013, 09:22 PM)
Not need 4all that, Bro...but TQ... notworthy.gif
Juz a general view of my philosophy of Life with our chosen ride...

Me can see many UNhappy owners of Gagas ( & other makes, too, in car forums)...
Am juz hoping my lil contri, a lil optimism, wld help 2bring a lil happiness in2 those lives...
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true...we lived only once. and gaga wont be the ONLY car we drive our whole life...so might as well be happy with it and continue driving it biggrin.gif
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post Mar 25 2013, 09:21 PM

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same 4AT ler shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Mar 26 2013, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(apisfires @ Mar 26 2013, 10:29 AM)
17 inch rim not too big meh?  hmm.gif
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low profile ma rclxms.gif but if carry FULL load will sagat? hmm.gif
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post Mar 26 2013, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 26 2013, 10:52 AM)
later YAB will install taxi spring!
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his @$$ is already sohighly SO HIGH!!! i was shocking.gif when i saw his car that night... wonder what or WHO he carry that is heavy enough to bring the car down to normal height... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Mar 26 2013, 11:19 AM)
Need u all opinion or suggestion, I just receive the promotion from my fren la, he offer me Rm 100 for VS, it is fully import from Japan, the capacitor is damn big, total is 216200UF, the temperature is hold until 105 Celsius, the voltage can support from 19.2V until 30V...Cable (60A) is included, u just plug to car battery ok le, got meter to read also.....
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WTFBBQ??? shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
even the famous erictioh VS only carries 100000uF!!! doh.gif
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post Mar 26 2013, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Mar 26 2013, 11:38 AM)
This one....But got cover la....Transparent de.....
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OMG shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
u see the value of one SINGLE caps is 22000uF!!! shocking.gif

but the voltage varies from 16V to 25V...not as claimed 19.2V until 30V

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post Mar 26 2013, 01:24 PM

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Last upgrade for this year...cos will be preparing for moving house and etc from April onwards...

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full review after 1-2 weeks of testing...
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Mar 26 2013, 04:33 PM)
oo... i thought can TT with u... lols i`ll be at seberang perai... smile.gif
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bo jio me... im working here... poison u with my car brows.gif
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