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SUStikaram
post May 30 2013, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 30 2013, 11:09 AM)
Our neighboring country Philippines announced a 7.8% jump in Q1 2013 GDP.

All Southeast Asian countries seem to be doing quite well.

Singapore and Malaysia are underperforming.
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I read one china press economy review.... if not bcs of the construction mrt, highway, airport, housing, new project like tun razak exchnaged

our gdp is actually only 1% growth...

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post May 30 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 30 2013, 11:24 AM)
Intereting things for we Malaysians:

In Philippines, it is a normal culture for youth after their college or pre-college (>21 years old) to leave home and find work in Manila or Cebu, mainly in the BPO industry (shared services and call centres). These youths have huge appetite for renting apartments - they normally do not have such thing as terrace home. Hence, rental market is very high in demand. It is also Filipino culture to pay rental ahead or sometimes 1 year of rental in advance instead of making downpayments to buy new home. Most of the new homes are bought by Filipinos working overseas as Philippines have the highest remittances economy (working abroad and transferring their earnings into home country, nowadays they buy property in Manila) in the world with about US$25 billion receipt last year beating any need for FDI or liberalising the economy.

Corruption and mismanagement are still key issues but they believe Philippines' GDP of about US$250 billion is on track to beat their nearest peer Singapore and Malaysia.
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I read :

they don't buy terrace bcs they cannot afford( also due to limit land as population very high) and yearly flood problem.

rental market is very high in demand = high population and govt better now.

1 year of rental in advance = high demand and high population and less supply

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post May 30 2013, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 30 2013, 11:30 AM)
tikaram,

Thanks for sharing this here.

I have most of my FDs with BRakyat and now this concerns me. I don't understand what is the problem mentioned in the report. Hope that you can help to clarify what is the problem mentioned in the report.

My lay person's understanding is, they have many personal loans and thus higher non performing loan potential. But my view is, these lenders are mainly govt servants and thus secured incomes for the loans.

Or something more serious?

Thanks.
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the purpose just to alert the danger of more bankruptcy...( persoanl loan )

try to limit your FD to 250k which is insurer.

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post May 30 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 30 2013, 11:42 AM)
Our concept of terrace is inherited from British and non-Commonwealth countries have different concepts on landed homes.

Supply lesser? Manila easily got 2-3x more supply than us. Check out their latest project, alot of city apartments are small-szed in over 50-storey towers. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=302340

Transformation plans? Well, in Manila, there are plans to build 10 casinos to sustain their economic growth especially in boosting real estate. Joseph Estrada, a  believed to be corrupted leader, was recently elected as Mayor of Manila.
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i read manila city population is very huge. maybe 2 x

i read the supply only increase recently due to good yield.

i also read the current govt is better than their formal.

corruption index malaysia from 2005 5.1 drop to 2011 4.2

philipine from 2005 2.5 improved very little ? maybe 2013 improved more? to 2011 2.6

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post May 30 2013, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 30 2013, 12:30 PM)
The fact that in ASEAN forums, most other ASEANers laugh at Malaysia for making a big noise about our transformation and anti-corruption plans when in fact our growth is lower than them.

Accordingly, they mentioned that it is about bringing vibrancy to the economy and matters like corruption should not be prioritised for the sake of economy. No doubt, this is a developing world mindset.

Why I believe what's happening in the region is very important for us to know.

Kuala Lumpur real estate is fighting for the same tourist profile, same foreign investors and same hoteliers and retailers across the region. Our out-of-ASEAN tourist arrival is not very high if you take out all visits from ASEAN: Singapore 14m, Indonesia 2m, Thailand 1m, Philippines and Vietnam: 1m. Almost 18 million out of 25 million are from ASEAN.

What's happening in neighboring capital cities definitely poised a competition to KL.

Bangkok - big in hospitality and retail industry, the abundance of out-of-ASEAN travellers both the budget and rich ones
Jakarta - to go all big in luxury shopping, widely known as the new Shanghai of luxury retailers
Manila - to go all big in casino, casino, casino and BPO

Kuala Lumpur - what is our niche? well, KL is trying to steal some business from Singapore, a city that is beyond our league as of now (>720 financial institutions are operating in Singapore with less than 100 in KL)
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kuala lumpur have the best things - truely asia, malay, chinese, indian....

but we fail big on this.
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QUOTE(accetera @ May 30 2013, 02:10 PM)
I wouldn't even want to say these cultural things because many expats that lived in Malaysia actually mentioned we are not entirely Truly Asia like what we wanted. Most times all they see is Chinese makan with Chinese, Malay makan with Malay and Indian makan with Indian. No matter how much we deny it.

Big news in our neighboring country:

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I am just trying to say the truely asia if it work well.... this is biggest selling point for Kuala Lumpur.

If you don't believe me. Go to country where people never vist malaysia like egypt...

tell them our race.. they will follow you wanted to know more each culture.

govt fail us la. cry.gif

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QUOTE(joeblows @ May 30 2013, 06:12 PM)
FOOD!

Bloody Gahmen too stupid to manage this nation however.
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Thai food better leah
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post May 30 2013, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ May 30 2013, 08:48 PM)
come come lets promote msia dish to other country! anyone want to join me?  We can invest on this !
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Yes.

Don't forget promote malaysia banana.

It is fragrant,sweet and good for your health.

Suitable for breakfast lunch and dinner.

Can be taken ripe or not ripe(curry, cips ,medicine)

Be it children, adult or senior citizen.

Got organic & frozen as well.

LOL

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post May 30 2013, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(accetera @ May 30 2013, 09:35 PM)
And btw our satay, curry chicken, mee goreng, char kway teow, roast chicken rice, fried popiah, pak chang kai (nasi ayam hailam), curry mee, roti canai (or famously called pratha), chapati, murtabak, teh tarik, cannot be considered as Malaysian in overseas as too many countries are claiming them...

The real Malaysian is nasi lemak, asam laksa, rojak and rojak mee, nasi kandar, etc.

Interesting to note that when I was in Australian college residences, some of the ignorant Aussies thought Satay was from Thailand because our college served with Chicken Skewed with Thai Chilli Sauce. Satay is originally from Indonesia - same as batik, some of the joget dances, etc.
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u forgot car kueh teoh . bake but teh . cendol . nyoya kuih la.

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QUOTE(soules83 @ May 30 2013, 10:12 PM)
Malaysia = halal beer la....
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not that samsu from kelapa one meah ?



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post May 30 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ May 30 2013, 10:17 PM)
then what attract them? Property? shocking.gif
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Aiya that truly Asia la.

Mix of culture, house, food , clothing, religion, games, art, etc.

Example u bring tourist to malay house see what inside in am. afternoon bring to Chinese tokong , evening bring to see Indian dance,

Tomorrow u bring to see Chinese house am, afternoon go play that wau gasing batik drawing, and evening see Indian temple etc
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post May 30 2013, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ May 30 2013, 10:24 PM)
that one from India lo
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If add tongkat Ali? bolehland samsu ali
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post May 31 2013, 09:21 AM

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let me do the closing.............

u will come at a point some up up up camp saying this again in V11.
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- Anytime is a good time to buy

- Properties prices will always go up in the long-term

- The market cannot collapse because of demand from foreigners

- Mickey mouse units are the trend of the future
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read more here why they said that? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif http://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/property-...-151909308.html

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