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Model Kits Gundam & Mecha Modelling Thread V29, Excitement Embodied

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james83
post Apr 14 2013, 01:58 AM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Apr 14 2013, 12:35 AM)
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the sword grappler seems missing.. hmm.gif
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post Apr 14 2013, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(stone_keat @ Apr 14 2013, 02:50 AM)
hi there, i would like to ask some questions regarding the Gundam Mid-Year Challenge 2013 Malaysia.

On the proof of purchase: Must be purchased from Litt Tak shop or any other model shop will do as well? And I have purchased some models from Litt Tak sales recently and I hope to use it in the competition but the receipt seems not that official(just with the price on it), do they accept that receipt? as proof of purchase?

Does it has any period to be followed (like the purchase must be done within Feb and May)?

On the category: 1 entry will only take part in 1 category? For example I am going to submit a AGE model to take part, so I am only into 'AGE category' only? Or can i take part in both the 'New Challenger' and 'AGE' with the same model?

This will be my first time into this. So Im hoping to get some answers here.. Thanks:)
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try asking the staff at Litt Tak @ sg wang 6th floor.. they know everything.. thumbup.gif
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post Apr 21 2013, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Tsubasa66 @ Apr 20 2013, 04:53 PM)
I m looking for rg zeta 3, dose anyone know where can I get it?
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robotmaster/timemachine may have it already... smile.gif

just finish this deepstriker SD kit after so long.. sweat.gif
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this mcmodel original kit you really need an airbrush to make it look good as a few big parts not molded in correct colors.. & dry transfer decal quality also not so good, although it comes with a small waterslide sheet..
but on the plus side, there're tons of extra parts which are good for customizing & it's the only SD deepstriker kit out there.. so, yeah..

i'm sticking to bandai kits from now on.. cool.gif
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post Apr 22 2013, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Apr 21 2013, 12:47 PM)
not telling off you or what, but just curious, why didn't you just post this in the other gunpla thread instead  tongue.gif
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not familiar with the other thread since i only has this one non-bandai kit.. & since this one's an original design by the company, i guess why not post here..
i get the kit as it's the only deepstriker model kit out there.. i apologize if it really shdn't be posted here..

ok back to original bandai kit discussion biggrin.gif
anyone getting the limited strike weapon pack? the design on the light blue sword grappler is kind of radical as it doesn't has the grappler but only a hole which has unknown purposes... (shoot laser?) hmm.gif
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post Apr 22 2013, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(General_Nic @ Apr 22 2013, 12:03 AM)
not blaming you, just that 3rd party non-Bandai gunplas are discussed there, you are welcomed to join there if you wish, but not forcing you if you are not comfortable  biggrin.gif

as for the grappling hook, it's another Bandai's promotion photo mistakes, as we were discussing whistling.gif
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thanks for the reminder.. laugh.gif

so the missing grappler is a mistake?
it'll really mar fans intention of getting the add-on if it's really so~ different from original design.. sweat.gif
my fren was contemplating to preorder the new strike + perfect strike add-on. but now he planned to get the robot damashii version instead.
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post Apr 23 2013, 12:41 PM

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i remember someone wanted a gerbera tetra.. tongue.gif
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post Apr 24 2013, 03:38 PM

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this is pretty cool.. 2013 animation for the 08thMSTEAM.. HGUC Gouf Flight-type in planning? tongue.gif

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post Apr 30 2013, 10:46 AM

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fixing an RG strike at the moment.. suddenly had a thought that it would be neat if bandai release an RG Ginn. hmm.gif tongue.gif

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post Apr 30 2013, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(lord_aminkin @ Apr 30 2013, 12:31 PM)
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Spamming team athrun zala to kick off my hobbies in gunplaying smile.gif
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allright! good start! do post here after done fixing.. brows.gif
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post May 10 2013, 02:03 PM

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Quote from gundamguy:
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A large MG 1/100 new product to be presented at the Hobby Show!
Anyone want to take a guess?  It is possible that we might be see the MG 1/100 Sazabi Ver.ka...perhaps?
Whats your prediction for this new MG gunpla kit?
the hobby show will take place around May 18th.. most likely is Sazabi Ver. Ka.. but other speculations do exist..
key hint is "large".. MG Kshatriya possible? drool.gif
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post May 14 2013, 07:31 AM

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i expect pre-molded innerframe on one-piece of runner.. just like RG

even better if the whole endoskeleton is pre-joined on said piece of runner (better than RG tech).. that'd be revolutionary i guess.. whistling.gif
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post May 14 2013, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ May 14 2013, 08:34 AM)
i've said it b4 and i'll say it again, pre build innerframe is not an advancement..... its a regression.

such a tech is not new, its been done b4 on ver 1.5 why on earth will u wan it in a new kit? The only reason RG is using it is bcuz tey hav no choice, if tey can make functional proper innerframe that hav to be manually build in that scale i bet u tey will dump that pre build innerframe without a moment of hesitation.
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you're correct it's been applied to rx78-2 ver1.5 but (i might miss a few) MG kits after that ver1.5 does not use that technology, for better or for worse..
it could be that bandai is "standardizing" its use for supposedly revolutionized new line of MG kits to come..
some of us prefer more fun assembling *more* innerframe parts while some of us prefer simpler & time-saving assemble, it's very subjective. given the popularity of RG kits right now, the kit-making company might as well head this way, won't it?
same as you, i do hope for a better advancement in this already advanced model kit line.
it's just a matter of days before the announcement now.. let's keep our fingers crossed. smile.gif
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post May 14 2013, 01:34 PM

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when i say "standardize its use" i mean apply the pre-build innerframe to the rest of the MG kits (new ones after the jump). not to standardize all the MG to specific scale as that'd be stupid, of course there'll be different size/scale for diff universe/ms. sorry if i mislead u there.. tongue.gif

with that 3.0 statue 78-2 MG announced, it's still a mystery how the inner frame will be..
agree with HxiiiK, there's no "revolutionary" new features to be found in that text..
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post May 14 2013, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ May 14 2013, 03:04 PM)
Which goes back to my point no3. In the end of the day, what does such a frame offer that warrant it to replace the current frame? Is it more flexible in term of customization possibilities? No. Is it more sturdy? No. Is it less fragile? No. Is it more complex to build? No. Is it more detailed? No. If it offers non of the above then why would Bandai spend money and time developing something that add no real value to its product?

Not to mention the new ps frame is paint friendly and its being heavily marketed as such. Using single pre build frame is the opposite of paint friendly. Why would Bandai develop ps frame, use it for 5 months and then run contrary to what it heavily hyped?
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actually i'm thinking the concept maybe something like RG BUT for 1/100 of course it should come with detailed inner armor parts which can be attached to the "skeleton" (this term shd be used to describe RG's "innerframe" as it's confusing).
the skeleton itself may still be pre-build.. and with the extra armor parts, it won't sacrifice detail & painting opportunities at all.

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post May 15 2013, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ May 14 2013, 05:05 PM)
Are u saying to have an inner inner frame (aka skeleton) follow by regular inner frame (lets called it muscle for comparison) followed by outer armor?  hmm.gif  That will be interesting, however u still have a fundamental problem when it comes to painting.

Whenever u paint a movable object u should disassemble it and paint it parts by parts so that u don miss a spot. No matter what the system u r trying, the bottom line is if its moving and u cant take it apart, when u paint u will never cover the whole thing perfectly. When u bend it around u'll expose the unpainted layer. If u go and paint that, it'll be uneven. If u leave that alone it'll stick out like a sore thumb. If u bend it 1st b4 painting it then the other side will be unpainted and goes back to problem no1. Defeating the purpose of painting in the 1st place hence paint unfriendly.
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hmm.. easy. just paint the exposed parts like elbow/knee/ankle joint, those has less contact/friction with the armors, and for the inner armor it won't be visible anyway unless modeller does battle damage diorama or somethin'.. (possible improvement to being paint-friendly maybe spacing the armors away from the moving parts, but we don't see any description of the 3.0 release about being paint-friendly.. :/)
anyways i don't think bandai really wants us to paint the whole inner frame although the kit is using paintable material, they want us to spend less time building a kit so chances that we go buy their kits is higher.. tongue.gif
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post May 15 2013, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ May 15 2013, 10:50 AM)
u paint the expose part, when u move it around the unpainted unexpose portion will now be expose...... U dun seem to understand this, let me illustrate it for u:
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Also since when we r not suppose to paint the inner frame? If u hav a SF with puke gold do u to just suck it up and live with it or do u improve it? This whole "don't think bandai really wants us to paint the whole inner frame" argument is not valid ever since tey release ps frame that r meant to be paint friendly. U think Bandai will dump this in just 5 month on the shelf?

Since when spending time on a kit hindered any of us from buying more? If thats the case the backlogs wouldn't hav existed in the 1st place now would tey if every1 buys only after they completed their kit.
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sigh.. more explaining to do.. biggrin.gif
1. "unpainted unexpose portion" - yes u're correct on this one.. if the pre-molded skeleton concept is applied, it's harder to paint. possibility to disassemble skeleton for painting purposes? we don't know yet.

2. "since when we are not supposed to paint the innerframe" - i said paint it, but probably not the WHOLE thing. (btw i won't buy SF with puke gold as i don't actually paint innerframe)

3. "spending time on kit vs buying more" - u're taking this so seriously dude.. i'm saying this from bandai's perspective what they MIGHT be thinking to boost their sales.. anything could happen in marketing dept whistling.gif
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post May 15 2013, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ May 15 2013, 11:30 AM)
1. then why bother developing single frame if u meant for it to be disassemble? Bandai not gonna waste money on this when existing 1 already fulfill this role.

2. panting whole panting partially is not the point, the very fact that if u cant disassemble it and cant paint it separately leads to the circle part. If u make it disassemble able then goes back to point no1. Also u buying SF or not is not an issue, im talking in general.

3. whats there to boost when the market dun really care about completion time? Finish or not ppl will still buy things that tey like. Finish or not ppl will not buy things that tey dun like. Where does time come in this equation?
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i bet only a small portion of modellers actually paint innerframes, or is this not the case? unsure.gif
IMHO it's a case of whether bandai going to appease the minority of those who paints innerframe by holding back pre-molding technology (which is already implemented to a certain degree of success on RG).. versus implementing it for the sake of being "revolutionary" (just minor speculation as we still don't see what's revolutionary about the 3.0.. yet.. the possibility of what bandai could do with pre-molded skeleton at 1/100 scale is endless, what we see done with RG could just be the start of a new standard)

on completion time vs. impulsive buying.. i rest my case.. (which is actually not really a case) tongue.gif
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post May 15 2013, 04:21 PM

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wah nice pose! drool.gif must've taken forever to tweak around... (very excited to finish fixing my RG strike & continue with limited zeta.. hehe)
after build only decal it.. seems like alot of work to be done. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TheAdmiral @ May 15 2013, 04:30 PM)
yes true, small MG exist that r along the line of HG size and tey hav separate innerframe but is it any good? Victory is notorious for being flimsy, to the point where Bandai decided to put V2 on hold. Surely u don want a flimsy RG? i kno i dun. Crossbone same issue.

yes if a person dun like it he will mod it this statement is true but what im saying is single frame system hindered it somewhat. When u r proposing for an advancement u will ofcuz state ur case on how much more improve it is over the previous 1 am i right? Improvement over 1 area while hindering another is not really an improvement at all. Its just give an take, so what improvement does single frame gives that made it superior over separate self build frame? If u hav a car that is fast and reliable, u hav a new method to make a car even faster yet it became unreliable is this an improvement in general?

yes Bandai is expending their cust base, tey always were. However there already exist stuff that caters to such cust. U wan simplicity ok we hav HG. U wan small size and yet retain complexity we hav RG, u wan complexity and detailness regardless of size u hav PG, u wan in between u hav MG. Altering a line to suite customer is basically shooting ownself in the foot, and tey already does to a certain extend with regards to MG and PG, tey r so similar that in some model the MG is superior to the PG. We do not wan this to happen with regards to RG and MG, both line hav its own value, both line has its own customer base. Making 1 so similar to another just further dilute 1 line in favor of other.
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i agree with that but for me it's just the degree of improvement. there is no pure improvement (which is without disadvantages) at this point of advancement in gunpla development.
RG is a breakthrough at the same scale as HG/HGUC. but is it purely advantage over the HG/HGUC line?
RG justice for one, cannot even stand on it's feet (no matter how u bend the legs) on the usual standing configuration.
HGSEED justice can stand. but which one would you prefer, or generally more modellers will choose/buy?

it might not be foresee'd by bandai officials but they still went on & bring up RG line. it could be the same thing as this whole "revolutionalizing the MG" trend.
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post May 15 2013, 11:18 PM

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i guess the term "revolutionize" really gets our hopes up. yawn.gif

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