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 Is this kind of overclocking worth it?, HTT312 Divider 9/10 DDR560

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TSjoylay83
post Apr 7 2006, 03:28 AM, updated 20y ago

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Hi everybody, I managed to push my ram to the max and this is what i get. plz comment.....

first of all, my specs:
Sansun 500w Psu
Opty 165 @ 1.53v @2808Mhz @312HTT
Thermalright SI-120 @ 120mm fan
OCZ Gold PC4000 (DDR500) UCCC @DDR 560 @ 3-7-7-12 @ 9/10 @ 2.95v
Passive cooling for the ram.
DFI NF4 Lanparty Ultra-D @ 704 BTA bios.
80GB and 250GB WD sata II hdd, 200GB pata hdd
dvd rom, cd burner (dvd burner power supply plugged off to save power)
normal graphic card, audigy 4 sound card

Main use: multimedia content creation (wavelab and pinnacle studio)

What I get:
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MEMTEST V1.6 ---> 2048 errors on test 5 first round.
Fail super pi 1M but pass 512k at 13 secs.
General use: very stable and fast. Do not crash.
Full load add 10 Celcius to CPU temp.


Plz advise notworthy.gif Proc and ram and PSU from Dinster.

This post has been edited by joylay83: Apr 7 2006, 03:33 AM
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post Apr 7 2006, 03:33 AM

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try more ram tweaking until u can run "at least" 8M superPi
32M would be best

fails 1M = unstable

i see the ram suffer bandwidth loss.. as my ddr530 ram sandra score near 6900
try lower speed and better timings
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post Apr 7 2006, 03:33 AM

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too many errors...not advisable..
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post Apr 7 2006, 03:38 AM

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where do you think i should stop?? i can get 265Mhz memtest 0 errors 32m super pi stable.

bound to get errors when reach 270. but i dunno how to 'tweak away those errors'. UCCC supposed to be able to reach 285..... laugh.gif but not all the time lah....

my main fear now is not that the system will crash, but i fear data corruption..... sad.gif

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post Apr 7 2006, 04:07 AM

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im not sure abthis ram timing... but from my experience, tweakin d ram will help.. u ask around wats d best timing for ur ram?

btw, ur cpu temp kau kau low...
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post Apr 7 2006, 04:21 AM

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QUOTE(joylay83 @ Apr 7 2006, 03:38 AM)
where do you think i should stop?? i can get 265Mhz memtest 0 errors 32m super pi stable.

bound to get errors when reach 270. but i dunno how to 'tweak away those errors'. UCCC supposed to be able to reach 285..... laugh.gif but not all the time lah....

my main fear now is not that the system will crash, but i fear data corruption.....  sad.gif
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u have ultra D, so its best go around XS forum n check out their timing
with correct tweaking, uccc can even go near 300, but thats rare
messing with ram timing is a pain and challenging,
so try reducing errors at 270 1st by tweaking the timings
oh, x-7-7-x is juz overkill.. even x-5-5-x should best be avoided

as for me, i still dont give up at 265, and still tweaking when i got dree time
p/s: im on epox nforce3 mobo, with only half timing options available of DFi, which makes things harder =__=;

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post Apr 7 2006, 04:56 AM

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I voted wow'drool just to encouraged you my friend. e-jump is right about the timing, 7 is much a drawback to your performance. The latency response time is going to kill you. I'd be better of with DDR500 3-3-3-x instead of DDR600 with 3-7-7-x.

There are ways to find which is the best among setups. My first initial indication of actual performance will be the snynthetic benchmark to be followed by real application benchmark. That way not only you know which setup is better, but you will notice a trend and basically manage to form a conclusion on the basis of your findings.

Btw, nice job bro on the opty.

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post Apr 7 2006, 06:23 AM

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is this deja-vu for me or what...

joylay83@ im also just start to o/c my opteron and got the same thing as you do, as my processor unable to get very high core speed and my ram also reaching at that speed...

but my ram can go at tigher timing, think your ram can do that too, and your machine will be faster too...

im still burning in, hopefully can get more and better o/c... all the best... smile.gif
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post Apr 7 2006, 08:31 AM

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UCCC?

this is what u need wink.gif
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=94973
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post Apr 7 2006, 02:12 PM

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@ PC crazy
thanks for ur encouragement... but i agree that this timing is thumbs down... in windows its kinda fastm but in memtest it is snail speed. my ram is default 3-4-4-8.

@ KidsCode
no my problem is opposite. my proc can go very high smile.gif , not maxed yet. my ram is causing problems. sad.gif

@ e-jump
THANK YOU!!!!!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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Why must 3-7-7-12???DDR2 ker???

btw tighten tighming is better on AMD....dismiss high HTT value...no point on getting high HTT but timing is not that relevant...hell even a Hynix D43 can get 300 with 3-5-4-14 last time i test...but bandwidth so ciput i dump the project....

Ever wonder 250 on 2-2-2-5 can get high scores (BH)???
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post Apr 8 2006, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(antonio_zth @ Apr 7 2006, 02:54 PM)
Why must 3-7-7-12???DDR2 ker???

btw tighten tighming is better on AMD....dismiss high HTT value...no point on getting high HTT but timing is not that relevant...hell even a Hynix D43 can get 300 with 3-5-4-14 last time i test...but bandwidth so ciput i dump the project....

Ever wonder 250 on 2-2-2-5 can get high scores (BH)???
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no its ddr1 sad.gifsad.gif if not i wouldn't have started this thread since ddr2 is meant to do high latency biggrin.gif

ya the higher htt i go, my ram loose bandwidth. at 265 i can get 7000mb/s. rclxub.gif i juz sold 1 set of my old skool Bh-5 coz dun like to pump voltage biggrin.gif

wat say you if i put like 320HTT with divider 5/6?? that'll leave my ram at 266Mhz. 5/6 can run well on my mobo but bandwidth and performance i am not sure...
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joylay83@ er, change ram ??? as think your ram holding back your processor...

anyway dont remember UCCC rams that bad doing such low fsb with so lose timing too...
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post Apr 8 2006, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(KidsCode @ Apr 8 2006, 03:05 AM)
joylay83@ er, change ram ??? as think your ram holding back your processor...

anyway dont remember UCCC rams that bad doing such low fsb with so lose timing too...
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i need 2gb of ram. if not i would have gone tccd sweat.gif

ya.. uccc should be able to do about 280. i think my fine tunings are not right. sad.gif will meddle with it asap with the link above tongue.gif
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post Apr 9 2006, 04:51 AM

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Added one xtra cap ayam 400w PSU to power all the other things. my 500w PSU now only power mobo, proc, ram, gc, pci card, and 2 sata HDD.

Hopefully get better power in that case. last time kenot over 2.8 coz of PSU limitation. 2nd attempt clocking 2molo nite biggrin.gif
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post Apr 17 2006, 12:58 AM

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hmm... my cpu seems to hit a wall at 218HTT which is around 2.83Ghz coz it requires more than 1.60v to achieve more. temp full load is around 37C without air con. (add 10C to smart guardian reading while idle).

anyways, i decided to settle with 2.6Ghz 9/10. memtest and super pi 32m stable. i loss cpu bandwidth though.... conclusion? ram is limiting me again sad.gif however, after tweaking windows, it seems to compensate a bit for the speed loss.

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note: pic shows superpi 1M.

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post Apr 17 2006, 04:13 PM

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hmm, thats average speed a uccc can go
most ppl at XS have good/handpicked ones, as they ordered straight from the company representative there
well, at least u can do 3-4-3-x 1T @267
mine 3-4-4-8 1T @265 2.6v 32m stable
not memtest stable as i cant control the DS n DDS in bios >__>

mind posting ur a64 tweaker?
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post Apr 17 2006, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Apr 17 2006, 04:13 PM)
hmm, thats average speed a uccc can go
most ppl at XS have good/handpicked ones, as they ordered straight from the company representative there
well, at least u can do 3-4-3-x 1T @267
mine 3-4-4-8 1T @265 2.6v 32m stable
not memtest stable as i cant control the DS n DDS in bios >__>

mind posting ur a64 tweaker?
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blush.gif wat's DS and DDS?? dun find it in my dfi board also??? :S

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UCCC should be able to do 3-4-4-8 until 280MHz AFAIK. The only hold back for my rig here is the E4 core...otherwise could go higher than the current 270 that I am using.


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post Apr 18 2006, 06:52 AM

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Drive Strenght n Drive Data Strenght
DFi must have those
this 2 settings do play major role to go high speed
Epox dont have these, so i cant get any higher

try playing with Odd numbers for both, as it will result Drive Strenght in a64 tweaker to display weak
the available numbers represent the level of strenghts

cant help more, coz im on epox =___="

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