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TSffrulz
post Apr 6 2006, 09:11 PM, updated 20y ago

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Hi guys , I think most of you don't know that I'm 17 and sitting for SPM this year. Just my luck that I'm taking both science and maths in BM as I am the last batch. Now some of you who is taking SPM with me and those of you who already took SPM please elaborate what is Kebarangkalian mudah in english please. I can't understand a thing reading the text book or workbooks as a matter of fact. What's kebarangkalian mudah in english called? How do you know which one is bersandar and which 1 is not? I might understand better if I knew the english term for it so I can google for sources. I really want to study maths in english. Sigh.

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:13 PM

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i suggest you to go for a tuition ....
mayb a professional tuition teacher will help you better...

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:14 PM

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It is kind of weird when you need to study something in English but most of the materials that you learn are Malay. Hmm.. maybe you should get tuition.
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:19 PM

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I prefer learning in english because I practically have a better understanding in english than malay. And it helps me get rid of my boredom since my malay isn't exactly what you can call Form 5 standards and most of the words they use I cannot even know the meaning.My malay is something you can say as a passing grade but not the A or B standards. I might consider tuition but I don't think it will help me much anyway I just need somebody to explain this in english.

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:20 PM

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i tot spm paper haf 2 language in it?
erm...
kebarangkalian = probability
mudah = simple
kebarangkalian mudah = probability simple
should be...
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Apr 6 2006, 09:11 PM)
Hi guys , I think most of you don't know that I'm 17 and sitting for SPM this year. Just my luck that I'm taking both science and maths in BM as I am the last batch. Now some of you who is taking SPM with me and those of you who already took SPM please elaborate what is Kebarangkalian mudah in english please. I can't understand a thing reading the text book or workbooks as a matter of fact. What's kebarangkalian mudah in english called? How do you know which one is bersandar and which 1 is not? I might understand better if I knew the english term for it so I can google for sources. I really want to study maths in english. Sigh.
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if not mistaken , in SPM , there will be questions in english and malay . i really wished the teachings in school uses english , my english wasn't good but it's more better compare to BM . sad.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:22 PM

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Kebarangkalian mudah should be simple probability in English?
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Apr 6 2006, 09:22 PM)
if not mistaken , in SPM , there will be questions in english and malay . i really wished the teachings in school uses english , my english wasn't good but it's more better compare to BM .  sad.gif
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Yeah has two languages for every paper in SPM. But the problem is , at the mo I am being taught in Malay so I can't study in english unless I study on my own but in this case I can't find out the terms of the main topics in the syllabus in english. If I knew I would't have posted here.
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QUOTE(washabushi @ Apr 6 2006, 09:20 PM)
i tot spm paper haf 2 language in it?
erm...
kebarangkalian = probability
mudah = simple
kebarangkalian mudah = probability simple
should be...
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isn't kebarangkalian means " odds ? " correct me i am wrong . tongue.gif
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Apr 6 2006, 09:25 PM)
isn't kebarangkalian means " odds ? " correct me i am wrong .  tongue.gif
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Nope, just checked. Simple probability is correct. Thanks guys for the replies. Now to get on reading.

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:27 PM

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what chapter do you found this kebarangkalian mudah?
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(ballistix89 @ Apr 6 2006, 09:27 PM)
what chapter do you found this kebarangkalian mudah?
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Chap 7 Form 5
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:34 PM

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I dont know what is keberangkalian mudah but are you refering to Statistic & Probability subject?


Perhaps u can google for Elementary Probability/Statistic

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Apr 6 2006, 09:34 PM)
I dont know what is keberangkalian mudah but are you refering to Statistic & Probability subject?
Perhaps u can google for Elementary Probability/Statistic
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I think should be the basic of probability.
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Apr 6 2006, 09:33 PM)
Chap 7 Form 5
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Which subject? Modern or Add Maths?
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:38 PM

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modern math...
should be...
those sigma sigma stuff izzit?
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(washabushi @ Apr 6 2006, 09:38 PM)
modern math...
should be...
those sigma sigma stuff izzit?
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Basic probability got equation that employs sigma? Discrete Probability?
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post Apr 6 2006, 09:41 PM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability

But your case is "mudah", so a big portion of the wiki article is not what you'll be tested in exams. Just scan through the article, Wikipedia helped me to understand many scientific, mathematic and engineering concepts because the way it presents. Many scientific articles are written for people with almost no background on the matter. Explanations are simple and clear to get you over the learning threshold.

Speaking about mathematics, it is actually a universal language especially for scientist, engineers, and of course mathematicians. Only very few people that I've met are proficient in mathematics. Mathematics require the rigor, and reasoning, starting from axioms and definitions. And typical school students do not achieve the level they supposed to be. By looking at how students write in mathematics, I see that we are not taught the mathematical language. I myself am not very good at it, but after reading a lot, I slowly gain the knowledge to think mathematics, and speak mathematics. However, still a far distance from the mathematicians style.

If you are a good student, interested in learning, I suggest you to find a deeper meaning in mathematics. Read the wikipedia article: Mathematics. Hopefully, tomorrow's students can grasp the concepts better.

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:47 PM

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If you have 3 red marbles and 4 blue marbles in a bag...what is the probability of getting a red marble when you pick one from the bag randomly without looking? The probability is 3/7
Guess that's kebarangkalian mudah.....


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post Apr 6 2006, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(AaronZe @ Apr 6 2006, 09:47 PM)
If you have 3 red marbles and 4 blue marbles in a bag...what is the probability of getting a red marble when you pick one from the bag randomly without looking? The probability is 3/7
Guess that's kebarangkalian mudah.....
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I have the same idea as you. The permutation and combination thingy can be also grouped under the same category.

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