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 Kebarangkalian Mudah? Help needed!., Please explain what tf is this all about

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TSffrulz
post Apr 6 2006, 09:11 PM, updated 20y ago

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Hi guys , I think most of you don't know that I'm 17 and sitting for SPM this year. Just my luck that I'm taking both science and maths in BM as I am the last batch. Now some of you who is taking SPM with me and those of you who already took SPM please elaborate what is Kebarangkalian mudah in english please. I can't understand a thing reading the text book or workbooks as a matter of fact. What's kebarangkalian mudah in english called? How do you know which one is bersandar and which 1 is not? I might understand better if I knew the english term for it so I can google for sources. I really want to study maths in english. Sigh.

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:19 PM

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I prefer learning in english because I practically have a better understanding in english than malay. And it helps me get rid of my boredom since my malay isn't exactly what you can call Form 5 standards and most of the words they use I cannot even know the meaning.My malay is something you can say as a passing grade but not the A or B standards. I might consider tuition but I don't think it will help me much anyway I just need somebody to explain this in english.

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Apr 6 2006, 09:22 PM)
if not mistaken , in SPM , there will be questions in english and malay . i really wished the teachings in school uses english , my english wasn't good but it's more better compare to BM .  sad.gif
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Yeah has two languages for every paper in SPM. But the problem is , at the mo I am being taught in Malay so I can't study in english unless I study on my own but in this case I can't find out the terms of the main topics in the syllabus in english. If I knew I would't have posted here.
TSffrulz
post Apr 6 2006, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(LWRNCH6550 @ Apr 6 2006, 09:25 PM)
isn't kebarangkalian means " odds ? " correct me i am wrong .  tongue.gif
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Nope, just checked. Simple probability is correct. Thanks guys for the replies. Now to get on reading.

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post Apr 6 2006, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(ballistix89 @ Apr 6 2006, 09:27 PM)
what chapter do you found this kebarangkalian mudah?
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Chap 7 Form 5
TSffrulz
post Apr 6 2006, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Apr 6 2006, 09:35 PM)
Which subject? Modern or Add Maths?
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To xenon : Thanks for the link. Will find a time to browse through the site. I myself use wikipedia for researching too.

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post Apr 6 2006, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(misao @ Apr 6 2006, 09:57 PM)
I think the mod maths one mainly is not the permutation and combination... dun la confuse the fella further XD

It's usually when you have like a bag of 20 balls : 8 red, 6 blue, and 6 green. And you have 5 chances to reach into the bag and take out a ball.

Kebarangkalian bersandar (dependent probability) is the one where the probability of getting a red ball in your second, third, etc tries are dependent on the result of the previous tries. Meaning at first the chance of taking out a red ball is 8/20.  if you take out a red ball in the first try, the chance of getting a red ball in the second try is 7/19 because there are 7 red balls left and 19 balls left in total.

The one that is not bersandar is if you replace the ball into the bag each time you take one out. Then, if you get a red ball in your first try, the chance of getting red ball in your second try is the same: 8/20.

Hope that helped. biggrin.gif
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It did a little. Finally understanding a little bit about this bersandar and tidak bersandar thing. Thanks for the info.

 

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