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Advice Wanted Boyfriend's Mother Obsessed With Him, She will call him 10 times a day!

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differ
post Mar 8 2013, 02:44 PM

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I think the problem lies with your boyfriend's mother, in that her world revolves solely around her eldest son.

I am guessing, she does not have any hobbies, a close group of friends, etc. This would not be surprising if she had sacrificed all of the above for him when he was young.

This is going to be really sticky to handle but the best would be to get her out of the house into her own activities and get her to make her own circle of friends. There are a lot of senior citizen gatherings out there, like ballroom dancing, cooking classes, etc.
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post Mar 18 2013, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 8 2013, 02:50 PM)
It is almost cute to see such naivete in people sometimes laugh.gif

1) If YOU don't have any hobbies or friends or whatsoever, will YOU be calling your favorite child incessantly?

2) Why do people love fabricating excuses for the fairer sex?
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1) Most likely. What else is there to do to pass the time?

2) Don't believe that I did?
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post Mar 19 2013, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 19 2013, 08:10 AM)
1) Then you need to talk to a counselor. That is called violating the personal boundaries of others.

2) You sure did. You don't even know the mother and you're already making up excuses for her by saying "she probably doesn't have any hobbies or friends".
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Dude, your bitter pessimism in life really shows in all your posts. Maybe you still need that counselor you were looking for back then in Subang Jaya. Or is coming on LYN to denigrate and criticize every other person's post your form of therapy?

1) But isn't that the whole point of the thread? TS voicing concerns that her partner's mother is violating their personal boundaries? doh.gif

2) None of us know the mum and we are trying to rationalize why she is acting that way. Note the use of Probably: Adverb "insofar as seems reasonably true"; synonyms include "presumably - likely - belike - perhaps - maybe - possibly"



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post Mar 22 2013, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 21 2013, 07:22 PM)
What? Resorting to personal attacks already? LOL. Keep 'em coming, because I know when people resort to personal attacks, it only means they have nothing else to come back with.

1) Which is why I'm saying it is NOT normal.

2) YOU are trying to rationalize it, hence giving the mother a sense of helplessness to explain that she is not in control of her situation. I.e. you are making excuses for her. Watch me use the same logic without making it look like an excuse "Perhaps his mother is mentally insane and has separation anxiety". Naturally, I won't say that because I don't know if she's mentally insane or not. But note how readily you'd say she has no friends or hobbies.

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Who started with the personal attacks in the first place? Anyway, we are digressing...

1) Yes it is not normal. And thus the whole point of me trying to give a possible reason behind the "abnormalcy". Or are we supposed to just fall in line with your summary judgment that "She's NOT normal" and move along?

2) If you were to read all the posts, you would notice that there are others who are trying to rationalize the mother's behavior, instead of a blind broadside attack (below). Sometimes a little understanding into why a person acts out a certain way, may just help in resolving the problem.

Is what I did, by suggesting that she may not have anyone else but her son in her life, any different from your first reply:

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Heh, mother with dependency personality. Will often raise a child with codependency characteristics. Nothing new here. Move along.

Seriously, the lack of sympathy or even empathy from you is... surprising.


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post Mar 25 2013, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 24 2013, 11:21 PM)
1) You admitted that it is not normal behavior. Your method of addressing abnormality are based on pure conjectures which does not apply in many situations. Clearly it is bad conjecture, yet you choose to plow on despite being pointed out as such.

2) Using ordinary circumstances to explain abnormal behavior is just poor reasoning. On top of that, presuming reasons (i.e. creating excuses) that are inapplicable on so many levels is what lends to bad understanding into why a person acts out a certain way, and will lead NOWHERE near solving the problem.

Can you tell me where is the conjecture in my comment? Empathy is not necessary in this picture as the mother is not the one I am communicating directly with. You are WAAAYYYY off in your attempts to undermine my credibility.
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1) Of course it is a conjecture. I proposed an idea that is unproven, simply because that was how the initial premise was portrayed by TS. In any case, a lack of personal activities/interests on the part of the parent has always been one of the reasons behind the Empty Nest Syndrome. But to satisfy you, let's say that I (and a whole slew of psychology experts are) wrong, you are right; my comment a conjecture and yours a fact.

2) Yes and your insta-diagnosis of a abnormal mother with dependency personality, is nothing new, just move along, is a much better advice and definitely way more helpful for TS?

So it is a bad conjecture on my part that the mother has no friends/hobbies of her own to pass her time, but it is not one on your part with your comment on:
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"Heh, mother with dependency personality. Will often raise a child with codependency characteristics. Nothing new here. Move along."


Ok man, you win.
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post Mar 25 2013, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 25 2013, 11:49 AM)
1) Usurping authority from "psychology experts" to give credibility on a non clinical condition. FAIL!

2) Dependent personality is not a diagnosis. Dependent personality disorder is a diagnosis. Double fail!

3) Misquoting. Triple fail!
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1) Never said it was a clinical condition. I brought up "psychology experts" because the Wiki references used were from articles by psychology practitioners.

2) Because you did not mean it as a "Dependent personality disorder", right?

3) How was it a misquote when those were your own exact words?


So now, instead of attacking and nit-picking, why don't you clarify what was it you actually meant in your original reply?
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post Mar 25 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 25 2013, 04:15 PM)
I dislike repeating, so I'm just going to quote myself.
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Cool, so we each have our own conjectures. I propose that it is a case of 'empty nest' while you propose it is a case of 'dependent personality'.

Case closed. smile.gif
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post Mar 25 2013, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 25 2013, 04:35 PM)
Actually, the dependency hypothesis is far more valid than your empty nest conjecture, and is just as accepted, if not more, by psychologists. It creates dependency, it's not a conjecture, it's observable and predictable behavior. (Try searching "mother treats son" on google and watch it auto-predicts with "like a husband")

In this instance, is NOT empty nest as the mother is highly attached to the eldest son, even though the younger son lives with her.

So it's not even a case of my conjecture vs yours. It's simply you being wrong vs me being right.
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Ok then. You are right and I am wrong. notworthy.gif

I hope then you will be able to impart some helpful advice on how best to deal with it.
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post Mar 25 2013, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 25 2013, 04:35 PM)
Actually, the dependency hypothesis is far more valid than your empty nest conjecture, and is just as accepted, if not more, by psychologists. It creates dependency, it's not a conjecture, it's observable and predictable behavior. (Try searching "mother treats son" on google and watch it auto-predicts with "like a husband")

In this instance, is NOT empty nest as the mother is highly attached to the eldest son, even though the younger son lives with her.

So it's not even a case of my conjecture vs yours. It's simply you being wrong vs me being right.
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And just to be sure, so that I read up on the correct hypothesis put forth by you, is this it - Dependency Personality Disorder

I tried searching for "dependency personality" but every time Google kicks back the the same links that go to "Dependent personality disorder". I am not sure whether you meant they are the same or are they two different things.

Thanks.
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post Mar 25 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 25 2013, 05:19 PM)
Already there. Apparently, you had only read 1 line of what I posted.
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My mistake, it was hidden by the 'Spoilers' tag.

What would be the types of corrective actions that the TS can take to make the mother (and son) understand?
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post Mar 25 2013, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 25 2013, 05:25 PM)
You can have a certain personality and not have it affect your life. A personality disorder indicates a dysfunction.

E.g. Obsessive compulsive behavior is not necessarily a disorder, UNLESS it starts affecting your daily life, then it becomes OCD. Meaning, you are aware of it, you don't want to do it, but you do it anyway.
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So in her case, would you say that the mother has progressed from "behaviour" to "disorder"?
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post Mar 25 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 25 2013, 05:41 PM)
I've not said such thing. Don't know why you assume as such.
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I was asking whether your opinion on whether you thought it had, simply because you seem to know where to draw the line between "behaviour" and "disorder".

Geez man, stop being so defensive.
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post Mar 26 2013, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Mar 26 2013, 12:34 AM)
Like I said, I have not said anything about the mother having a disorder. Again, I don't know where you would derive it. If you don't know how to draw a line between a behaviour and a disorder, then you should do more reading.
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From the line I draw, it is very clear that someone here has a disorder.

 

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