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post Mar 8 2013, 08:44 PM

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Currently a student in Taylor's Subang studying CAL.
All my lecturers are the same since Semester 1, no change in lecturers.
Foods are expensive, considering you're in Subang Jaya, not your old secondary school.
Most of the students I know take their studies very seriously, and they're rich too, me myself not though.
I welcomed the new study zone, as Taylor's is crowded and not much studying place is available, library is 24/7 crowded.
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post Mar 8 2013, 10:28 PM

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I'm an international student and i intend to study Intensive English and Diploma in Hotel Management . Is it good if I study this major in Taylor university?
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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Mar 7 2013, 09:00 AM)
KYUEM has a lot of Indian lecturers, I believe. Generally, experienced Indian lecturers are quite good and dedicated to their profession.

Well, lecturers do move around quite often nowadays, due to the competitive environment and if the salary structure is not competitive enough, the quality of the programme will no doubt be affected.
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Well, KYUEM has a lot of Malay lecturers. Out of my 4 teachers, 3 are malays and 1 indian.

If you look at it as a whole, I would say 50% Malay, 20% Indian and 30% Expatriates. 4/5 of the Physics lecturers are Indians, with the other one being an expat with a PhD.
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QUOTE(Intermission @ Mar 8 2013, 04:16 PM)
If that is the case, I think you have to reevaluate your buying power. Do you really think that you can have the same experience as you would in an English boarding school with just RM 40k in Malaysia? 40k sounds much more closer to a Proton than a BMW or a Ferrari.  brows.gif

That's barely enough to cover the first semester fees in the UK! The closest you can get are KYUEM and KTJ. You must understand not every private college out there are catered to the elites. Sunway, Taylor's, INTI....they are all catered towards the upper quartile of the middle class. That aside, I do agree with everything you said, but you have to adjust your expectations. Here's a few facts for you to ponder:

1) Quite a number of not so smart, lazy kids have parents that can afford private colleges and are willing to pay for them.

2) Colleges are not responsible for providing food. The best they can do is build a cafeteria with all the cheap food there. But that might struck someone as being too high school-ish.  whistling.gif

3) If they don't charge you for certain facilities, it is unfair to those who don't have any use for them in the first place. I bet those who take buses to college everyday will be unhappy that the parking fee is included in the college fees.

4) You can find bad apples anywhere, even in boarding colleges.

5) College are businesses, they do lots of marketing and advertising. They take in students when they can.

If you can't learn to accept this 5 facts, nowhere is good enough for you. Taylors and Sunway are not DOWNRIGHT CHEATING, it is that you misidentified your dream college and paid the wrong person with the wrong sum.

Being a TCSH student for about 2 months now, I couldn't really imagine that I would eventually end up in this place. For a moment I had my sights set on the cheap and cheerful TARC, the KDU within walking distance or even HELP but none of that happened. Then I got the chance to reduce my fees by almost half so I settled with TCSH. That probably explains why I am contented with TCSH even though it my experience here has been far from perfect. We may share a common situation too: we are both Taylor's students and we both have sucky physics lecturer(my worst so far).

They are also very keen in helping you to get into your desired university. Let's face it, good grades in A levels are common in these days (>30% ) so the real challenge lies in getting a good university (notice how I didn't say top) rather than acing the exam itself. Taylor's students are rich in money but poor in ambition and a sense of direction. Taylors help fill that gap. 2 months into college and they are now in the process of assigning us lecturers to help us think what should we do to get into our dream university. This isn't too helpful for me and probably not for you too; but students who couldn't even keep track of the A level program structure, let alone apply to a university would be very grateful for it.
Surprise! Surprise! 3 out of 5 of my current lecturers are Indian. One of which is the best lecturer among the 6 while another is the worst among the 6. The other one is somewhere in between but good enough. TCSH seemed to have a disproportionately high number of Indians......and Koreans.  blink.gif
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I agreed. That is why i've mentioned i must have made the wrong choice then. Furthermore, i was so constantly ragged throughout my course during A Levels, that makes it so hard for me to even focus or bond well with my good friends, since some evil wishful rich fags will just out of no where took my bag and placed it into a toilet, or my pencil box into a girl's bag....It's like adults behaving like kindergarten kids. Apart from the lousy lecturer, poor personal attention given for each student due to it being over-crowded and its over emphasized on marketing, Taylor's is nevertheless a good place. smile.gif

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post Mar 8 2013, 11:59 PM

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i am from Taylor's Lakeside , agree with some of the facts . However in education wise , my lecturer give out all their best in teaching. What i mean is that they use their heart to provide us the knowledge and most importantly values of life. Not to mention the competition in the class , i do agree they are students who are lazy but slowly u will realize there are more crazy brilliant student.
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post Mar 9 2013, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Mar 9 2013, 04:31 AM)
I agreed. That is why i've mentioned i must have made the wrong choice then. Furthermore, i was so constantly ragged throughout my course during A Levels, that makes it so hard for me to even focus or bond well with my good friends, since some evil wishful rich fags will just out of no where took my bag and placed it into a toilet, or my pencil box into a girl's bag....It's like adults behaving like kindergarten kids. Apart from the lousy lecturer, poor personal attention given for each student due to it being over-crowded and its over emphasized on marketing, Taylor's is nevertheless a good place.  smile.gif
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Not sure which class were you in. But when I was in Taylors (many many years ago) it was really good. Cant remember much about the teachers but most of us in class did very well anyway, I think almost everyone got 3As and above despite skipping classes playing dota etc and eventually flew off to overseas.

Till now I still find there is NO PLACE LIKE TAYLORS that can offer you such wide variety of GOOD food. Even till now when I am back home I would still head to SS15 for food!

Come on Taylors aren't that bad!
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i don't know why but a lot of freelance models like venice min seems to come from Taylors.

Eyecandy galore.
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post Mar 9 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(tqeh @ Mar 9 2013, 09:37 AM)
Not sure which class were you in. But when I was in Taylors (many many years ago) it was really good. Cant remember much about the teachers but most of us in class did very well anyway, I think almost everyone got 3As and above despite skipping classes playing dota etc and eventually flew off to overseas.

Till now I still find there is NO PLACE LIKE TAYLORS that can offer you such wide variety of GOOD food. Even till now when I am back home I would still head to SS15 for food!

Come on Taylors aren't that bad!
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Hmm..gotta agree with you on the last point. When was your grad class in CAL? haha...what my lecturer told me previously was that CIE now elevated their standrd of difficulty already compared to years ago..But, yes, i guess it really depends on class. Maybe i was utterly strucked with bad luck, bcos when i talked to the administtrators, they told me that I was being unlucky, and i should have voiced it out earlier, Im now an ex student already btw.
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Must be CAL meh? Why not other programs like SAM or CPU? They are the ones who also went through this kind of situation in a daily basis.

Forget about comparison of programs.

Back to the topic whereby IMO, Taylor's College (I didn't mention Lakeside) is a great place to study despite 'your inconvenience'.

I feel that it's very convenient due to the fact that you can actually study in the college itself and it's very quiet at night if you were planning to study. (Tried staying in college for an overnight study with 2-3 friends and it somehow works!)

Food? Why stay in college? Take your friends with you and walk out around SS15 for some grub! Don't be lazy and exercise a little!

Lecturers? I was in SAM last year. And I think lecturers in SAM are rather friendly, kind and helpful with your work. Just ask them if you need help. I'm not really sure about CAL lecturers so please don't judge me.

So overall saying, it was the best RM20k+ per year my parents have invested me on. Learnt a lot in there. Just make sure you use their learning facilities to the maximum and make time for your studies instead of totally fooling around in college. There's no such thing as 100% entertainment in Taylor's College.


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post Mar 11 2013, 10:13 AM

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Bro, every collage is the same shit. True.
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post Mar 11 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Intermission @ Mar 8 2013, 04:16 PM)
If that is the case, I think you have to reevaluate your buying power. Do you really think that you can have the same experience as you would in an English boarding school with just RM 40k in Malaysia? 40k sounds much more closer to a Proton than a BMW or a Ferrari.  brows.gif

That's barely enough to cover the first semester fees in the UK! The closest you can get are KYUEM and KTJ. You must understand not every private college out there are catered to the elites. Sunway, Taylor's, INTI....they are all catered towards the upper quartile of the middle class. That aside, I do agree with everything you said, but you have to adjust your expectations. Here's a few facts for you to ponder:

1) Quite a number of not so smart, lazy kids have parents that can afford private colleges and are willing to pay for them.

2) Colleges are not responsible for providing food. The best they can do is build a cafeteria with all the cheap food there. But that might struck someone as being too high school-ish.  whistling.gif

3) If they don't charge you for certain facilities, it is unfair to those who don't have any use for them in the first place. I bet those who take buses to college everyday will be unhappy that the parking fee is included in the college fees.

4) You can find bad apples anywhere, even in boarding colleges.

5) College are businesses, they do lots of marketing and advertising. They take in students when they can.

If you can't learn to accept this 5 facts, nowhere is good enough for you. Taylors and Sunway are not DOWNRIGHT CHEATING, it is that you misidentified your dream college and paid the wrong person with the wrong sum.

Being a TCSH student for about 2 months now, I couldn't really imagine that I would eventually end up in this place. For a moment I had my sights set on the cheap and cheerful TARC, the KDU within walking distance or even HELP but none of that happened. Then I got the chance to reduce my fees by almost half so I settled with TCSH. That probably explains why I am contented with TCSH even though it my experience here has been far from perfect. We may share a common situation too: we are both Taylor's students and we both have sucky physics lecturer(my worst so far).

They are also very keen in helping you to get into your desired university. Let's face it, good grades in A levels are common in these days (>30% ) so the real challenge lies in getting a good university (notice how I didn't say top) rather than acing the exam itself. Taylor's students are rich in money but poor in ambition and a sense of direction. Taylors help fill that gap. 2 months into college and they are now in the process of assigning us lecturers to help us think what should we do to get into our dream university. This isn't too helpful for me and probably not for you too; but students who couldn't even keep track of the A level program structure, let alone apply to a university would be very grateful for it.
Surprise! Surprise! 3 out of 5 of my current lecturers are Indian. One of which is the best lecturer among the 6 while another is the worst among the 6. The other one is somewhere in between but good enough. TCSH seemed to have a disproportionately high number of Indians......and Koreans.  blink.gif
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What you say is very true. Taylors advantage is that they assist the students in getting into good universities and their way of doing it seems effective going by the number of students getting placement in good universities. Not to say that other colleges dont do it but less effective.

Its just like Sunway-TES which is so popular for accountancy students with a high percentage of passes.
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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Mar 8 2013, 11:31 PM)
I agreed. That is why i've mentioned i must have made the wrong choice then. Furthermore, i was so constantly ragged throughout my course during A Levels, that makes it so hard for me to even focus or bond well with my good friends, since some evil wishful rich fags will just out of no where took my bag and placed it into a toilet, or my pencil box into a girl's bag....It's like adults behaving like kindergarten kids. Apart from the lousy lecturer, poor personal attention given for each student due to it being over-crowded and its over emphasized on marketing, Taylor's is nevertheless a good place.  smile.gif
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Sorry to hear that u were ragged. It's not even primary/secondary school already and yet there are still people like that? What the hell are those guys up to? Maybe it's this pranks that also made u feel not satisfied with Taylor's? And anyway u would find lousy lecturers in other colleges too, not one college have all brilliant lecturers. Poor personal attention might be because of too many students like what u mentioned, but Taylor's have a good placement center. And which college wouldn't market themselves? You would also see other colleges marketing themselves everywhere,in newspapers, in education fairs etc. So where are u studying now?
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come taylor lakeside campus la
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I was an ex student of Taylor's, and I must say that TCSJ has a wide variety of food compared to other places. In my current uni, I have not much choices to choose from compared to when I was in Taylors. It's probably your luck in getting bad lecturers + bad classmates. My friends in CAL are quite satisfied with their current condition ( Aside from stressing for A2 ). I'm personally a SAM student last year, so I can't really comment on the CAL staff. But it was a really enjoyable year for me. Aside from the new study space that I have less to no chance in using. And did I mention lakeside campus has a nice library to study in?
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QUOTE(OptimusMaximus @ Mar 11 2013, 02:01 PM)
Sorry to hear that u were ragged. It's not even primary/secondary school already and yet there are still people like that? What the hell are those guys up to? Maybe it's this pranks that also made u feel not satisfied with Taylor's? And anyway u would find lousy lecturers in other colleges too, not one college have all brilliant lecturers. Poor personal attention might be because of too many students like what u mentioned, but Taylor's have a good placement center. And which college wouldn't market themselves? You would also see other colleges marketing themselves everywhere,in newspapers, in education fairs etc. So where are u studying now?
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yeah...i was dead wrong in entering july intake..Most july intake were actually catered to Intl skol students, and yes, they were the bullies, tho mayb thinking that Taylor's is still a place for f**ked up fun and bullying people seems more fun to them than to study. Yeas, i was taken aback at the number of immature students at Taylor's. Probably its due to the intake that i've entered. I might taken for a different ride if i entered Jan Intake. I realised Taylor's reserved their best lecturers for their Jan Intake.
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educational institutions are not meant to be businesses... period.

it was not the original intent.

unethical to be "advertising" the student's "future" for "money".

imho, all private institutions shouldn't even exist.... education is only supported for those that deserve it.
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not those that can BUY education...
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it's not being 'private' that is the problem....but whether it's purpose is for education, or for profit....

note that a lot of the best universities of the world are private, including harvard, caltec, etc....

it is important to differentiate non-profit ( ie not expecting to make a profit) and not-for-profit (expecting to make a profit, which is reinvested into the establishment).....the american private unis are education centered not-for-profit organisations, ....

the majority of ipts in msia are for profit....some are even listed on the stock exchange.....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 12 2013, 02:28 PM)
it's not being 'private' that is the problem....but whether it's purpose is for education, or for profit....

note that a lot of the best universities of the world are private, including harvard, caltec, etc....

it is important to differentiate non-profit ( ie not expecting to make a profit) and not-for-profit (expecting to make a profit, which is reinvested into the establishment).....the american private unis are education centered not-for-profit organisations, ....

the majority of ipts in msia are for profit....some are even listed on the stock exchange.....
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You are right here. Schools like Harvard even have a seperate administrator to take charge of their endownments to get the best out of the huge cash pile they have. In Malaysia, alot of institution like to play around with statistics, trying to lure us students into believing statistics than experience. I think it was a choice gone wrong for me, if I entered the right intake, i might not be facing this problem, so i think it's subjective. How i really wish we could go back to those times whereby every government school here functions like JC in Singapore, offering A Levels ( then HSC) and UM was the top in our region back then. During those times, to enter UM is as hard as entering HKU or Cambridge. True story.
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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Mar 12 2013, 12:24 AM)
yeah...i was dead wrong in entering july intake..Most july intake were actually catered to Intl skol students, and yes, they were the bullies, tho mayb thinking that Taylor's is still a place for f**ked up fun and bullying people seems more fun to them than to study. Yeas, i was taken aback at the number of immature students at Taylor's. Probably its due to the intake that i've entered. I might taken for a different ride if i entered Jan Intake. I realised Taylor's reserved their best lecturers for their Jan Intake.
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So u are 19 this year I think,and u started ur pre-u last year? So u think it's because u entered July intake? I didn't know that July intake would have a lot of playful students blink.gif And they reserve the best lecturers for Jan intake shocking.gif That's so unfair. Are u sure about this? Maybe u were just unlucky or it's just a coincidence...And anyway January intake would have lots of students..I heard this year Jan 2013 intake have tons of students smile.gif

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