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 Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V4, Please read 1st post.

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post Apr 3 2013, 11:11 AM

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I'm looking at HL's 3.75% and 3.98% rates. Don't quite understand the difference between these two. The latter being a top-up, meaning...you have to place for the sweet deal of 3.75% first with min 50k for 12-months and then top-up another min 50k + 8% into savings to get 3.98% for 6-months (or next 6 months)?

I prefer 3-months deal...not sure if 6-12 months' worth the trouble or not.
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post Apr 4 2013, 07:44 PM

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Hi guys...for OCBC's FD deal of 4.5% for 3 months, can you help me to verify if my calculation is correct?

Let's say I put in RM50k into FD and as per their requirement, another RM25k into the savings:

FD (50,000 x 4.5% / 12 months) x 3 months = 562.5
Savings (25,000 x 2.9% / 12 months) x 3 months = 181.25

Total = 743.75 for 3 months

I took 2.9% as the savings interest rate as I think it's their latest.

Also, what do you think of this deal? Is it worthy of deposit? I'm thinking to do so next week once my other FDs are matured, so appreciate your thoughts smile.gif
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post Apr 4 2013, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Apr 4 2013, 08:29 PM)
The “saving account” you will sign-up is OCBC Smart Savers without a saving book, it is different from regular saving account with a
saving book.

My personal opinion, it is better to place Bonus Saver (4.5% FD + 2.9% Smart Savers) during the very early date of the month. The best
date to place it, is the first day of the month.

Because once you withdraw your fund from Smart Savers, you will get 0.5% interest for the whole particular month in your Smart Savers
account.

For example, let's say if you place your 3 months Bonus Savers in 15 April, your FD will mature in 15 July. If you withdraw your fund from
Smart Savers in 15 July, you will get 0.5% interest for the whole month of July in your Smart Savers. Unless you withdraw your fund from
Smart Savers in 1st of August then you get 2.9% interest for July in your Smart Savers. But if you do it this way, you cannot withdraw your
FD and Smart Savers on the same date which it 15 July. And you have spend more efforts, time, and energy to take care of 2 funds on 2
different dates.

If I am not mistaken, Bonus Savers calculates interest on daily basis, but not on monthly basis.

For 3 months FD, Bonus Savers is probably the best in the market.
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Ah, thanks for your example, I get it now! But since it's past beginning of the month and I could only go for the FD next week, I guess I'll have to endeavor monitoring two different dates of withdrawal. Otherwise, it's a long wait till next month.

And since the Smart Savers 'saving' account interest is calculated daily, is it right to say that I won't lose out too much having to keep them for a few weeks till the end of the month at the rate 2.9%?

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post Apr 4 2013, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 4 2013, 10:52 PM)
Interest is calculated on the number of days (not month).
To get 2.9%, you need to deposit additional RM1000 or more into the SmartSavers account every month.....
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Yeah, that RM1k requirement...I really don't understand the reason for them to ask us to do this, hmm...Standard Chartered has the same ruling too.
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post Apr 4 2013, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 4 2013, 11:44 PM)
Ask you to "save" more lah doh.gif doh.gif what else ?
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RM1k extra every month also they want ah? Okies sweat.gif
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post Apr 5 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Apr 5 2013, 03:56 AM)
In order to get 2.9% in your Smart Savers, you have to deposit at least RM 1000 into Smart Savers every month.
If you have time to deposit RM 1000 during the first day of the month, then your RM 1000 will get 2.9% interest
for the whole month. Please refer to the first page page of this thread.

You have to keep your fund in Smart Savers until 1 August; whereas you have to find another bank for your FD
which you make withdrawal in 15 July.

Another alternative is to transfer your FD fund into Smart Savers in 15 July to earn 2.9% for 15 days, and then withdraw
all funds at a time in 1 August.

I always try to place Bonus Saver during the very early date of the month.
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I did refer earlier nod.gif
And I think what you just suggested about moving the FD fund to Smart Savers works well! Unless a few months later there's a better promo elsewhere, otherwise parking in under 2.9% for the time being is decent.

Lucky earlier when I thought OCBC 4.5% promo has ended, I was told at the bank that it's renewed from April till June period. Just curious, is it still eligible for you since you've done it in the earlier cycle?

And thanks a lot for taking time to address my questions earlier.

QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Apr 5 2013, 07:29 AM)
Rich fag detected...
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I'm a girl, so technically you can't call me a fag grumble.gif ....I'm just blur *stomps feet*
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post Apr 8 2013, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Apr 5 2013, 08:40 PM)
Your calculation is slightly incorrect because to emjoy 2.9% rate, you have to deposit 1000 in month2 and month 3. This will add on to your principal of 50k+ 25k + 1k + 1k  = RM 77k.
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Thanks for being precise!

QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 7 2013, 10:00 AM)
Has the OCBC website post the new extension to Bonus Savers up to 30 June 2013 ?
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Their website is so plain... anyway, haven't checked it for updates, but last week when I went to the bank, the staff told me there's a new promotion period from April 1st till end of June.
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post Apr 8 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Apr 5 2013, 11:06 PM)
2 options:

Hassle to manage FDs on different FD placement dates:
If you withdraw your FD separately from Smart Savers on different date, this mean you will split your funds into 2 portions on
different date; then you will need more time, energy, effort, and money (petrol) to take care of 2 portions of funds (FDs).

or

Get a bit low interest rate at 2.9% for less than 1 month period
If you move your 2 funds from matured FDs into Smart Savers and withdraw all funds in 1st July, this means you 2 FDs will
get 2.9% interest for 22 days and 12 days respectively. And all your money will park in OCBC for almost 4 months.

In overall for these almost 4 months period, you will get lower than 3.96% interest

Now just realize that OCBC is too smart to offer Bonus Savers....  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, the bank memang calculate from all angles, cannot outdo them, lol...
I have some questions on this offer, hope you or other forumers can help me clarify.

In regards to the Smart Saver account:
1) If I were to deposit at two different dates, it will still go to the same account, yes? Or can we have two SS accounts for two FDs?
2) As you know, once we withdraw from the account, the 2.9% will drop. So what happens for those who want to continue in the next promotion term? Meaning cannot withdraw until we decide to not continue/no more promo? If yes, then the money will be stuck in there kan?

Thanks!
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post Apr 9 2013, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 9 2013, 05:01 PM)
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OCBC required FRESH FUND, so its own banker's chq would not be regarded as fresh fund.
A 3rd party bank's chq is accepted as fresh fund by OCBC. You just need to GIRO/RENTAS the matured fund back to your 3rd party bank's current account.

You mustn't withdraw your money in the SS though, failing which, you wouldn't achieve the effective rate as you intended. Anyway, the effective rate for you second round of Bonus Saver FD placement will not be 3.9 any more because the ratio of fund in SS account @ 2.9% is higher in the second placement (because you can't withdraw the 1st placement). You probably getting 3.6% effective for your second round placement.

Last but not least, for 3.6%.....I think other banks got better offer.. whistling.gif  OCBC is tricky.......but we are smarter.  rclxms.gif
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Even if withdraw out by cash, I think have to wait till the next day before you can deposit it back. At least that's what I heard from AmBank (need to clarify).

Btw, aeiou228, I don't understand the ratio you just put up. Do you mind to explain using figures for me? Thank you very much! smile.gif
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post Apr 10 2013, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Apr 10 2013, 01:42 AM)
You are right the second and sebsequent round are even lesser than 3.9%....one member mentuioned can open many SS account in the same branch....I did ask the bank before but the answer is no..looks like I need to do it in another branch?
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I still don't know why it's gonna be lesser than 3.9% icon_question.gif
But assuming so, then I guess for the first time deposit, just hantam a big amount into it and move on to other FDs after 3-4 months.
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post Apr 10 2013, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Apr 10 2013, 12:52 PM)
Month 1 FD 20k, SS 10k

Month 2 FD 20 k, SS 10k + 1k (to get 2.9%)
New FD 40k deposited, SS (10k + 1k) + 20k (together with new FD)

Month 3 FD (20k+40k),  SS (10k + 1k + 20k + 1k [to get 2.9%]

Month 4,
earlier deposited FD mature can be withdrawn BUT the SS if withdrawn will affect the new SS (20k), 0.5% interest only

This means your early SS fund  (RM10k) is geting 2.9% interest the most, in month 4 month 5 month 6 till the the second FD (RM40k) is mature....

Rough estimate interest earned on the first SS is 3.48% if continued for month 4, 5, 6...and 3.32% if continue for the month 7, 8, 9.....that is why the forum members are thinking to withdraw the SS so that can earn higher interest like 3.85% in Hong Leong junior FD
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 10 2013, 03:45 PM)
Because when you want to renew for the second time, you can only withdraw the FD 4.5% account and not the SS 2.9% account. Then from the FD withdrawn amount, you need to allocate 1/3 to SS again. Thus the balance in 4.5% account is reducing and one the other hand the balance in 2.9% is increasing. The average effective rate should be 3.5x% if the additional monthly rm1000 deposit is taken into account.
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Ohhh...wahhh...really calculate to the dot. Don't know how would I ever be able to see things beyond the simple calculation sad.gif
Thanks a lot for this and your patience!

Then I guess to make it more straightforward for people like me, best if I just put in a big sum for this promotion to get the max out of it without thinking about the 2nd or 3rd round + the further complication of SS account. I mean, easier if I just deposit let's say 150k (100k FD + 50K SS) rather than put in 75k today and 75k next week.

Anyone knows what will happen to the SS account if we close or left it idle after this and maybe 1 year later if there's any other different promo that ties in to SS, will there be any impact?


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post Apr 12 2013, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Apr 10 2013, 10:58 PM)
SS provides up to 2.9% interest which is good if a person needs some liquid cash in one or two months time but do not want to have FD. Just Deposit RM50 can at least get the interest rate of 2.5% which is pretty good compare to other saving account..
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Yeah, I agree too. I'll just keep it open.
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post Apr 12 2013, 02:28 PM

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I see less discussion on this thread lately. Is it cuz all money dah deposit into FD? laugh.gif
Anyway, just to share, I've FD-ed my money with OCBC's deal for now. I guess that means not much into looking at others at the time being, and not many new promos of late as far as I can see.

Btw, those who wants straightforward deposit can consider UOB since it's at 3.5% with no CASA.
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post Apr 12 2013, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 12 2013, 03:51 PM)
No MACH branch in your town ? 4% 12 months deposit straight forward online FD is better than OCBC Bonus saver with so many traps.
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None...kat Penang, as far as I know, takda sad.gif Anyone knows if they're gonna setup one soon?
I also wanna have that 4% (although lock-in period is longer...) cuz it seems straightforward and interest is high.
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post Apr 17 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(gsc @ Apr 17 2013, 03:39 PM)
The penang HL staff not even know Mach exist when I asked them
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Wow...that's just silly.
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post Apr 19 2013, 06:50 PM

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I just found out about this FD promo from HSBC.

Promotion Period: 1st April – 30th April 2013.
Minimum Deposit: RM100,000.00
Maximum Deposit: RM250,000.00
Rates offered:
1. First and Second Month: Prevailing Board Rate (refers to the board rate at time of placement)
2. Third Month: 7.88% p.a.
Effective Rate: 4.43% p.a.

Highlighted Terms and Conditions:
1. This promotion is for new HSBC Premier Customers and for Upgrade to HSBC Premier Customers who place or top up their existing Total Relationship Balance with / to a minimum amount of RM200,000.00 in deposits and/or investments at the point of the HSBC Premier Account opening and open an HSBC 3-month Time Deposit account with fresh funds on the same day. New HSBC Premier Customers are required to sign up for an HSBC Premier World MasterCard Credit Card.
2. The Eligible Customer must hold his / her HSBC Time Deposit placed within the Promotion Period until maturity to enjoy the Special HSBC Time Deposit interest rate. The eligible customer who uplifts the HSBC Time Deposit prematurely will not be entitled to enjoy the special HSBC Time Deposit interest rate and any interest previously paid under this promotion shall be deducted from the placement amount.

How to be an eligible HSBC Premier Customer:
1. Deposit and/or invest in Premier Savings, FlexiTime Deposits, Unit Trusts, Structured Investments, Dual Currency Investments, and Direct Retail Bonds with a Total Relationship Balance of RM200,000.00 or more.
2. An account fee of RM150 will be applied for the month should your average Total Relationship Balance drop below RM200,000.00. There won’t be any charges for an average Total Relationship Balance of RM200,000.00 and above.

What do you think of this? Appreciate any thoughts smile.gif
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post Apr 25 2013, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(mhspeng @ Apr 25 2013, 10:27 AM)
AmBank launching FD promo tomorrow, just for 2 Fridays (26 April & 3 May 2013)

Tenure 3 months -> 3.30 %
Tenure 6 months -> 3.45 %

New Individual Customer -> Minimum RM20k
Existing Individual Customer -> Minimum RM10k
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At first I thought since it's offered on such unique days, the interest must be a lot higher. But looking at the %, it's not good enough shakehead.gif

Thanks for the info, by the way!
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post Apr 25 2013, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(BoomChaCha @ Apr 25 2013, 12:40 AM)
The only way is to bundle 2 different FDs with 2 different Smart Savers accounts.

Money in bundled Smart Savers (Bonus Savers) cannot be withdrew until the FD is matured; otherwise
the interest rate will be effected (less). But I do not know how does OCBC calculate this penalty rate?
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Apr 25 2013, 12:57 AM)
yea, but i bundled it in 1 smart savers.. didnt think of that when i place..

anyway, the 'penalty' you mentioned, is reduced interest, if you top up 1k a month into smart savers, the smart savers account will get 2.9% pa, if you make withdrawal, it'll be 0.05% only..

the minimum balance you need to maintain in smart savers is the original 1:2 portion, if the balance go lower than that, your FD interest back to board rate (iirc)
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I didn't care so much already after going through the calculations and troubles, so I ended up just putting in however much I have over the span of April. By the time they're all matured, it's gonna be in July. So since I'm not supposed to withdraw my SS account till Aug 1st, I will just switch those FDs that have matured earlier into the SS account while waiting for the rest to be matured. One shot withdraw all from SS after that.

Considering there's 2.9% for SS account, it's not too bad to park those FDs that has matured under it for max couple of weeks if there's no other good FD promos elsewhere.
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post Apr 29 2013, 02:56 PM

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Anyone knows if UOB is coming up with any new FD promos before the current ones end tomorrow?
Don't wanna go put in for the 6 months 3.5% and then they go launch something better in May tongue.gif
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post Apr 29 2013, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 29 2013, 03:04 PM)
Even there may be new promotion, I do not think there will way a lot of difference.

OPR is not expecting to rise further from 3% for near term, so it is unlikely bank come out with better rate, a slight difference 0.1% may be but won't be too much.
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Hi, cherroy. May I know what's OPR?
Yeah, I agree too...I guess I just don't want to bite myself if they come up with something which has a big difference in %, hehe

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