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 DEVELOPER WITH BAD REPUTATION, Shud Avoid Buying ??

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mignon88
post Jul 23 2013, 01:13 AM

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There is no such thing as smooth sailing. Sure got defeats
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QUOTE(hondaracer @ Jul 22 2013, 11:31 PM)
LBS Bina??
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no first hand experience, are they that bad?
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post Jul 23 2013, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(Waverp @ Jul 22 2013, 04:35 PM)
Mayland. take for example Dorsett waterfront@subang
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post Jul 25 2013, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(Frostlord @ May 21 2013, 05:15 PM)
MKLand is bad developer? i've been to their project (metropolitan square) and its quite ok

can anyone share more about this?
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But armanee terrace 2 is still not completed.... And heard MK Land is nego LAD to their customers....

Dunno they will cry more when get their keys 😭😭😭

Or laugh 😄😄

Coz I asked sales agent in MK Land sales gallery, they said LAD is about 300k
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post Jul 25 2013, 07:42 AM

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NPO Development....they are a subsidiary of Titijaya. Bloody unethical bast*rds who construct buildings, cause for massively accrued bills and then abandon the building (after transferring to new managements).

Always think twice before buying any of their projects. Their plan is to manage the building for 2-3 years, and then pass over huge liabilities to the next unsuspecting management.
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post Aug 5 2013, 11:12 PM

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If you fixed the same defects for 2 years, how would you grade this developer? After 2 years, developer told you, the warranty had expired . Common, you not yet fixed the problem in this 2 years.

You cant build and you cant fix, Don't you feel shame in this industry ?
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post Sep 4 2013, 01:06 AM

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Is YTL a good developer?? I heard the finishing of their buildings sucks and not well maintained ..

If it's true, why their properties are still selling like hot cakes??
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post Oct 22 2013, 10:57 PM

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Mayland - Royal Regent already delay since June 2013 to get the Vp.
How good do you think they are?
And even cannot explain why they are delay, and cannot either tell the exact delivery date.
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post Oct 23 2013, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(kennethdw @ Sep 4 2013, 01:06 AM)
Is YTL a good developer?? I heard the  finishing of their buildings sucks and not well maintained ..

If it's true, why their properties are still selling like hot cakes??
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Not just midfield, their Dale @ Lakefields is terrible as well. Notably cracks on the walls in many houses.

Their concepts & locations are normally good ...
But I am definitely not gonna buy YTL under-con project for own stay
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QUOTE(ceveori @ Oct 23 2013, 03:24 AM)
is this isolated case? most buyer laugh all the way to bank  hmm.gif
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True for certain phases, but check properly before buy
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post Nov 8 2013, 10:45 PM

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developer with bad reputation? i not too sure because their houses are selling like hotcakes. personally, i don't like mah sing because i got nightmare dealing with their cust care, legal dept, contractor. shoddy workmanship from contractor ruins ms reputation. to make things worse, the cust care are not handling the matters seriously. before the defect liability end, i wrote to s&p lawyer to ask for stakeholder sum. i admit was my mistake without noticing ms has changed the stakeholder during the vp stage. therefore the demand letter is not valid and the stakeholder sum has been released to ms.

after the dlp ended in 2010, i wrote numerous email and letter to mah sing to demand for rectification works. ms sent workers to rectify the defects but it did not solve the problems. in fact, it caused more damages. in 2012, i consult with house buyer tribunal and to my surprised, they can't accept my case because it has passed one year after the dlp period. therefore, i have no choice but to engage lawyer.

now, the legal dept from ms is real scumbag.
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QUOTE(niahsing @ Nov 8 2013, 10:45 PM)
developer with bad reputation? i not too sure because their houses are selling like hotcakes. personally, i don't like mah sing because i got nightmare dealing with their cust care, legal dept, contractor. shoddy workmanship from contractor ruins ms reputation. to make things worse, the cust care are not handling the matters seriously. before the defect liability end, i wrote to s&p lawyer to ask for stakeholder sum. i admit was my mistake without noticing ms has changed the stakeholder during the vp stage. therefore the demand letter is not valid and the stakeholder sum has been released to ms.

after the dlp ended in 2010, i wrote numerous email and letter to mah sing to demand for rectification works. ms sent workers to rectify the defects but it did not solve the problems. in fact, it caused more damages. in 2012, i consult with house buyer tribunal and to my surprised, they can't accept my case because it has passed one year after the dlp period. therefore, i have no choice but to engage lawyer.

now, the legal dept from ms is real scumbag.
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Give them hell. These guys cannot be allowed to get away with it. If Mah Sing wants to be first tier, they ought to be more accountable to their customers.
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post Nov 8 2013, 11:37 PM

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Oh..

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post Nov 9 2013, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(BeastB @ Jul 25 2013, 07:42 AM)
NPO Development....they are a subsidiary of Titijaya. Bloody unethical bast*rds who construct buildings, cause for massively accrued bills and then abandon the building (after transferring to new managements).

Always think twice before buying any of their projects. Their plan is to manage the building for 2-3 years, and then pass over huge liabilities to the next unsuspecting management.
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Really that bad? Thought titijaya is not a newcomer n not too small either.. should be not that bad right? Or is it only limited to this development NPO Dev is handling?

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post Nov 9 2013, 02:29 AM

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Still waiting for Titijaya/NPO to transfer strata tile to buyers after more than 6 years delivery of vacant possession. Very slow indeed. Act 757 will be coming into effect next year. Won't be surprised property buyers governed by the new legislation will have their strata tiles handed over to them first and those who have been waiting for their strata tiles all this while will have to continue to wait.
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post Nov 21 2013, 04:22 PM

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Talm is now known as Talam TRansfrmers and no more Trinity Crporation. Haha, tranformers.
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post Nov 21 2013, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(savants @ May 1 2013, 01:00 PM)
I think MK Land did good job on NEO.. my neo unit got some defects but they fix it quite fast... no problem with them.
Neo giving 6%-8% ROI.  rclxms.gif
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Neo not by MK, but EMkay. Split out from MK but new developer, completely different company but may have tiny string link between.

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post Nov 21 2013, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(savants @ May 2 2013, 11:04 PM)
MK or EMKAY is not that bad as they mentioned... I dont have complaint with my NEO units at all.
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EMKAY is new, time will tell. MK is one of the worst ! many condos still fighting with them because they never pay TNB.
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post Nov 21 2013, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Mar 6 2013, 08:55 PM)
MKLAND i believe have financial difficulties many years ago but should be better now. Their properties are selling good but not all banks are willing to finance.
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MK cheated banks before, so at one time many banks not financing for their project. but i thnk now they back on business. Still, financially doing not okay. so you can expect them to cut here and there.
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post Nov 21 2013, 04:47 PM

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One developer was Tan Tiong Ming and his brother financier Tan Teong Hean. Who financed Le Chateau and was a headache for all their buyers as their properties that they bought had encrumbances with Rimbun. It felt like an Ah Long kind of environment.

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