QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 31 2013, 09:41 AM)
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Mar 31 2013, 09:53 AM
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Mar 31 2013, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(kangwoo @ Mar 31 2013, 03:05 AM) have CIMB-PRINCIPAL AUSTRALIAN EQUITY FUND & CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND but in clicks IMHO, balanced funds are for "lazy" investors or investors with little capital and wants diversification.has CIMB-PRINCIPAL BOND FUND in clicks shouldnt mixed/balance moderate risk compare to equity? from fsm&clicks, overall mixed/balance 25%, bond 10%, the rest equity. not sure the best ratio diverst 2 fund houses If u can afford to invest in that many funds, u can create your own DIY "balanced"portfolio, e.g. have 50% in bond funds, 50% in equity funds, and perform quarterly re-balancing. Theoretically (and if done correctly), that should give u better returns from investing in balanced funds. |
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Mar 31 2013, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 31 2013, 09:21 AM) Then make UTs your "compulsory" monthly contribution...otherwise u have zero retirement savings. Zero EPF is good...no wealth locked away until 55 years old...not contributing to crony and phony government businesses |
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Mar 31 2013, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 31 2013, 10:40 AM) Then make UTs your "compulsory" monthly contribution...otherwise u have zero retirement savings. Yeah I do make compulsory monthly contribution on UTs. Do I need to put in PRS fund or just normal UT?Zero EPF is good...no wealth locked away until 55 years old...not contributing to crony and phony government businesses If PRS, then 70% will be locked, 30% premature withdrawal at 8% tax. Or I just invest in normal funds eh |
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Mar 31 2013, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 31 2013, 11:00 AM) Yeah I do make compulsory monthly contribution on UTs. Do I need to put in PRS fund or just normal UT? Do u pay Meleisia tax ar? If yes, PRS lo...but max RM3K a year...then balance in UTs...SUPER COMBO If PRS, then 70% will be locked, 30% premature withdrawal at 8% tax. Or I just invest in normal funds eh |
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Mar 31 2013, 11:20 AM
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No Meleisia tax
So all invest in UTs? |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 31 2013, 11:20 AM) If you are not taxable in Malaysia (ie you pay SG tax) please beware that all dividend/income you receive MUST pay flat non-deductible 26% tax for non-resident taxpayer. Please declare accordingly using LHDN Form M.Or you can choose to take UT with zero dividend payout... http://www.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfborang/Form_M2012_2.pdf This post has been edited by gark: Mar 31 2013, 12:21 PM |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 31 2013, 11:20 AM) Then dump all in UTs lo...I dunno u, but I don't like to over-diversify and having to monitor too many investments. For me, a UT portfolio of less than 10 different funds and a stock portfolio of less than 10 stocks is enuff. |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(jerrymax @ Mar 31 2013, 11:00 AM) Yeah I do make compulsory monthly contribution on UTs. Do I need to put in PRS fund or just normal UT? As a non-resident taxpayer you cannot deduct the RM3k from your tax for PRS, all tax are non deductible at flat rate of 26%.If PRS, then 70% will be locked, 30% premature withdrawal at 8% tax. Or I just invest in normal funds eh This post has been edited by gark: Mar 31 2013, 12:24 PM |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 31 2013, 12:18 PM) If you are not taxable in Malaysia (ie you pay SG tax) please beware that all dividend/income you receive MUST pay flat non-deductible 26% tax for non-resident taxpayer. Please declare accordingly using LHDN Form M. Unker gark, I may be wrong but this is my understanding...Or you can choose to take UT with zero dividend payout... http://www.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfborang/Form_M2012_2.pdf When companies pay dividends, it deduct tax so that shareholders get the net amount after tax. E.g. gross RM1m, net RM750K UT receive the dividend, it is recognised at the gross amount on the P&L/Income Statement e.g. RM1m, then tax expense of RM250K appear just before the bottom line net income. If the unitholder is already taxed at the max tier, it makes no difference whether the UT distribute dividend or not... Pls enlighten me if ayam wrong |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 31 2013, 12:29 PM) Unker gark, I may be wrong but this is my understanding... UT/Dividend is taxed at 25%, and you can claim some back if you are Malaysian tax resident (after minus all your entitlements, epf, insurance, kids etc), also your tax is on increasing basis (first 10k, next 20 k etc etc). When companies pay dividends, it deduct tax so that shareholders get the net amount after tax. E.g. gross RM1m, net RM750K UT receive the dividend, it is recognised at the gross amount on the P&L/Income Statement e.g. RM1m, then tax expense of RM250K appear just before the bottom line net income. If the unitholder is already taxed at the max tier, it makes no difference whether the UT distribute dividend or not... Pls enlighten me if ayam wrong Non-resident tax payer have to pay 1% more if they are already taxed at 25% and cannot minus ANY entitlement and at flat rate. I know because i pay the stupid Form M tax every year... This post has been edited by gark: Mar 31 2013, 12:32 PM |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 31 2013, 12:31 PM) UT/Dividend is taxed at 25%, and you can claim some back if you are Malaysian tax resident (after minus all your entitlements, epf, insurance, kids etc), also your tax is on increasing basis (first 10k, next 20 k etc etc). Ok, so for small ant employees like me, it makes little difference. But for bigshot offshore-based Malaysian residents like u, it makes a difference. Noted Non-resident tax payer have to pay 1% more if they are already taxed at 25% and cannot minus ANY entitlement and at flat rate. I know because i pay the stupid Form M tax every year... |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 31 2013, 12:34 PM) Ok, so for small ant employees like me, it makes little difference. But for bigshot offshore-based Malaysian residents like u, it makes a difference. Noted That is why i only invest in UT with zero distribution, save all 26%... The tax applies to all income in Malaysia including rental, commission, dividend, trading, royalty etc etc. The only exemption is interest and capital gains (but not rpgt)... |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 31 2013, 12:18 PM) If you are not taxable in Malaysia (ie you pay SG tax) please beware that all dividend/income you receive MUST pay flat non-deductible 26% tax for non-resident taxpayer. Please declare accordingly using LHDN Form M. Haaa I Malaysian need to pay 26% tax as non-resident taxpayer?? Or you can choose to take UT with zero dividend payout... http://www.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfborang/Form_M2012_2.pdf QUOTE Income Remitted from Outside Malaysia With effect from the year of assessment 2004, income derived from outside Malaysia and received in Malaysia by a resident individual is exempted from tax. Sos kicap LHDN |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 31 2013, 12:37 PM) That is why i only invest in UT with zero distribution, save Tax is already charged at the fund level... The tax applies to all income in Malaysia including rental, commission, dividend, trading, royalty etc etc. The only exemption is interest and capital gains (but not rpgt)... This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Mar 31 2013, 12:40 PM |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:41 PM
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Mar 31 2013, 12:42 PM
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Mar 31 2013, 12:42 PM
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That means I am exempted by tax? Banyak blur sudah.
Since I pay SG tax, impossible I pay MY tax also.. double taxation. This post has been edited by jerrymax: Mar 31 2013, 12:43 PM |
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Mar 31 2013, 12:43 PM
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