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hanishoney
post Jan 20 2015, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(systemup @ Jan 20 2015, 01:39 PM)
ya ya my car got anchorage point ,must be safe lor.......isofix car seat very expensive, cheapest rm 13xx sweat.gif  sweat.gif , this car seat can use to 8years  smile.gif
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Remember, it has to be installed CORRECTLY to be safe. Do read the manual and confirm you can figure out how to install every stage correctly. If you can't install correctly, you're paying money to ENDANGER everyone in your car. Might as well endanger everyone for free.

Also, don't assume that you can use it for 8 years. Remember that you have to replace your carseat if you have a car accident. Even if it's just a small car accident, the forces of impact in an accident can damage a carseat in ways we cannot see from the outside. If our car insurance would replace carseats like they do in Europe or America, then no issue, but unfortunately, after an accident in Malaysia, we have to fork out our own money to buy another carseat if we get into an accident.

To me, booster seats are pretty cheap. Even Sweet Cherry has (had; currently out of stock) an ECE R44 certified booster for RM250. They're cheap because they only help fit your kid to the car's seatbelts. Booster seats are not the actual part doing the protecting. I would rather increase my budget for a carseat that will last me 4-5 years that I KNOW I can install properly in my car, and when my kid outgrow the carseat, buy a cheap booster.

LATCH carseats (American) are cheaper than ISOFIX (European) and work exactly the same way. The Graco carseats I list here are currently both RM560 and the Evenflo is RM700 at First Few Years, a shop you can find at the Curve or at Paradigm. Make sure to read the manual and try to install the carseat on their dummy chair before buying!
http://www.firstfewyears.com.my/graco-clas...e-car-seat.html
http://www.firstfewyears.com.my/graco-comf...e-car-seat.html
http://www.firstfewyears.com.my/evenflo-su...e-car-seat.html

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post Jan 29 2015, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(Allise @ Jan 28 2015, 12:32 AM)
Do u incur any import tax/duty from malaysia custom?
Mind to share more info?
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My sister was in the USA, so she flew back to Malaysia with two Combi Coccoros AND two Medela PISA breastpumps for her sisters as part of her luggage. She told customs that she didn't know the price because they were gifts from American friends to her sisters, and customs just charged her RM50 in TOTAL.

With customs, it does depend on your luck.
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post Jan 30 2015, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jan 30 2015, 12:04 PM)
Reporting in

Bought this last year in Midvalley fair for RM399.
IMO, not bad smile.gif

http://www.sweetcherry.com.my/index.php?ro...&product_id=109
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My understanding is that not all Sweet Cherry carseats (very few of them, in fact) are certified as crash tested. So I would not recommend to rely on them to save your child's life in case of car accident, unless you have confirmed that the one you purchased is certified by a specific government body with crash testing requirements for child carseats. I know of only one that was certified (under Europe's ECE R44) and it was a booster seat, not a 5-point harness seat.

If anyone has had a child in an uncertified carseat that survived a car accident, do share the brand and name of the carseat! Saving money is always awesome, as long as it also saves lives.
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post Jan 30 2015, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jan 30 2015, 12:47 PM)
Accident happens,and there is no best safety belt can save you from fatal accident. As long as it meets the requirement of sitting safe in car strapped on, and comfortable for baby, then I think it's the best choice already.

Accident mostly happens when you overspeeding, and your kids are bothering (not strapped on car seat) you while driving. I also do not deny that accidents happens out of your hand but out of 3 factors, 66% chances of accident to happen are in your hand. So yeah
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But choosing a carseat that has been crash tested means that it can save you from the accident that the crash testing simulates, which is actually the most frequent type of car accidents that happens. Carseats that ARE not crash tested can actually CAUSE INJURY. You might as well not buy at all and save your money. I know of a mother who DIED when everyone else in the car did not, because her head smashed into her child's carseat. I think it's a waste of money to buy a carseat that is not crash tested because it can actually INCREASE the chance of death, not reduce it.

And actually, the most frequent accident doesn't happen when overspeeding, but in traffic jam after work, when all the drivers are tired and someone was just too tired to press the pedal correctly. That is admittedly not a fatal accident, but it CAN cause INJURY. I myself have been in that kind of accident. My son was in his certified, properly installed car seat, and slept through the whole thing. The car in front of me was not moving, but they didn't wear their seatbelts and hit their head on the dashboard. If they had had a baby in their arms, the baby would have flown forward into the dashboard/windshield and while may not have died, may have been hurt. If there had been a "carseat" that was not tightly secured, the carseat could have flown forward and hit the driver or front passenger and KILLED them, due to the weight and strength of the carseat (this is what happened to my friend's sister in law). The front of my car needed some knocking, and the bumper and both front lights had to be replaced. So please take note that a non-fatal accident can BECOME fatal because a carseat was in the car, and not installed properly or was not crash tested to ensure no harm happens in a crash.

Crash testing is not just to ensure that the child survives that car accident, but to ensure that the car seat doesn't cause injury to other passengers in a car accident.
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post Jan 30 2015, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(hairybelly @ Jan 30 2015, 01:42 PM)
At least for this model, I saw that it has the ECE R44 sticker, and this is not it's most expensive model. I expect its other more expensive models to have that certification as well. But best to confirm before ordering. By the way, buying from Lazada is much cheaper for this brand.

http://www.sweetcherry.com.my/?route=produ...t&product_id=70
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Good to know that it has the ECE R44 sticker! Pity that they don't write it on their website. I wonder why? It's such an important selling point.
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post Feb 6 2015, 04:23 PM

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The Malaysian Institute of Road Safety Research (MIROS), an agency under the Ministry of Transport, Malaysia, is conducting a research on the use of child safety seat among parents / drivers in the Klang Valley. Your participation would help us to understand the behaviour of parents / drivers towards the use of child restraint. Therefore, we would appreciate your honest participation in this survey. Your identity will remain confidential, and the information obtained will strictly be used for research purposes. Thank you for your participation in making our roads safer for everyone.

NOTE: ONLY PARENTS / DRIVERS IN THE KLANG VALLEY WHO TRAVEL WITH A CHILD OR CHILDREN AGED SIX AND BELOW ARE QUALIFIED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS SURVEY

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post Feb 23 2015, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(wateverjunk @ Feb 20 2015, 06:16 PM)
Anyone using the Britax Eclipse here? It it's certified but it is only forward facing. Recent recommendation is for child to be rear facing until 2 years old. Any thoughts?
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Actually, the American recommendation is for child to rear-face UP TO THE MAXIMUM LIMIT OF THE CAR SEAT or until 2 years old, whichever is later. Scandinavia (the only country with 0 car-related child deaths) recommends rear-facing until 4 years old! Many caregivers forward-face as soon as possible, thinking it's a "stage up" in development, but actually facing forward is a "stage down" in safety. When car seat experts talk about safety, they're saying LESS LIKELY TO DIE. When your baby is rear-facing in a car accident, your baby is FIVE TIMES LESS likely to die compared to when your baby is forward-facing in the same car accident. So IF EVERYTHING ELSE IS EQUAL, if you ALREADY have the carseat, why turn to face forward unnecessarily?

There's a lot of information on why rear-facing is safer here: http://carseatblog.com/5168/why-rear-facin...-rf-link-guide/. Links, videos, technical explanations. For just a nice, basic parenting article on rear-facing, I like: http://www.parenting.com/article/car-seats-safety.

If your baby has outgrown their rear-facing carseat without reaching 2 years old yet, the American recommendation is to buy another carseat that can enable your baby to rear-face until 2 years old or even older. You'll want to look for a maximum weight limit of at least 18kg in rear-facing. If your baby is already older than 2 years old, then go ahead and buy a forward-facing seat, unless you can import Scandinavian carseats AND read the manual in the Scandinavian language.

UK law is outdated, only requiring rear-facing until 9 months. So you will actually find it more difficult to find UK carseats that enable rear-facing up to even 18kg, much less the 25kg that is Scandinavian standard. I looked among the American imported carseats to find extended rear-facing carseats.

I personally managed to rear-face my baby until he was 30 months old (his first carseat could rear-face until about 14kg, but he outgrew it by height first), bought him a forward-facing only carseat, got into an accident one week later (no injuries), and bought a rear-facing carseat again! (The Diono Radian can rear-face until 20.5kg.) My son is now more than 3 years old, and the only reason he's not still in his latest rear-facing carseat is because we'll be putting his new baby brother into that carseat.

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post Feb 23 2015, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(n3sta_n_roses @ Feb 23 2015, 12:07 PM)
Currently using InfaSecure brands. Specific model bought is Luxi Caprice. Overall rating and review is good. Personal experience so far is good.

http://infasecure.com.au/products/10-luxi-caprice/
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Which car did you install it into? Did you install in the center seat, behind driver's seat, behind front passenger seat or elsewhere in the car? When you install it rear-facing behind a front seat, how far can your front seat still push back? All the way? Do you lose 1-2 inches or a lot more? How old is your baby? Does your baby try to play with the anchorage strap over their head?

Did you buy in Malaysia or did you bring over from Australia? Was the shop helpful in showing how to install the carseat? Did you kena customs if from Australia? If you didn't, was it by luck or do you have tips to avoid customs?

Have you installed it only rear-facing, or have you tried it front-facing and in booster mode yet? If you have used the other modes, how different were the installations from each other? What was the easiest mode to install: rear-facing, front-facing or booster? At what age did you HAVE to switch your baby to forward facing?

Hope you'll provide a more detailed recommendation to help parents choose the carseat! Thanks in advance.

Remember, if the carseat can move more than 1 inch around the area held by the seatbelt or isofix belt, it IS NOT INSTALLED CORRECTLY AND IS NOT SAFE!

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post Feb 24 2015, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(jack208 @ Feb 24 2015, 12:30 AM)
Just got a JOIE Stages from the local distributor Safe-n-Sound based in Tmn Shamelin (Cheras). The proprietor Amy was very helpful and even helped me install the carseat into the back of my Mazda CX5.

JOIE is a UK-based product though but one of those that support rear-facing up to 18 kg.

I saw JOIE available from other online stores (and cheaper) but if you wanted someone to help you install, then best to give Amy a call.

http://www.safensound.com.my/
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That's awesome to know! Thanks for sharing. I wish I could go and check out the Safe-n-Sound seats! The pictures make them look so good for the current price!

However, I always feel that it's important to learn to install a carseat yourself, rather than have someone else help to install. You never know when you'll need to move your child's carseat and reinstall. If someone else installs your carseat, always test their installation too. Make sure their installation follows the manual's instructions, then try to shake the carseat up, down, and side to side. If it moves MORE THAN AN INCH, it's not tight enough. In fact, every few months, I re-test my installation to make sure that it hasn't loosened up somehow. Kinda like checking that your tyres are always inflated.
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post Mar 10 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(armmar @ Mar 10 2015, 10:58 AM)
May i know where can get cheapest proce for isofix car seat.. Currently persuing affordable isofix car seat
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I wrote this earlier:
QUOTE(hanishoney @ Jan 20 2015, 03:01 PM)
LATCH carseats (American) are cheaper than ISOFIX (European) and work exactly the same way. The Graco carseats I list here are currently both RM560 and the Evenflo is RM700 at First Few Years, a shop you can find at the Curve or at Paradigm. Make sure to read the manual and try to install the carseat on their dummy chair before buying!
http://www.firstfewyears.com.my/graco-clas...e-car-seat.html
http://www.firstfewyears.com.my/graco-comf...e-car-seat.html
http://www.firstfewyears.com.my/evenflo-su...e-car-seat.html
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post Mar 11 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(armmar @ Mar 10 2015, 10:58 PM)
tq for feedback... acceptable price below 600...

now just found this one for isofix rm500++
http://www.sweetcherry.com.my/?route=produ...&product_id=111

latch carseat for me like not cool and easy like isofix? by the way i have no experience yet to use car seat..  just start to go online first for our first baby
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LATCH and ISOFIX is pretty much the same thing. Just that Americans call it LATCH and Europeans call it ISOFIX. Like how Americans measure everything in inches and the rest of the world measure in meters.

My only concern with Sweet Cherry carseats is that they don't seem to have any certification of meeting to any carseat standards. Without the necessary testing, can't be sure it will work like it's supposed to in a car crash. For European-certified seats, they need to have ECE R44 sticker at LEAST.

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post Mar 11 2015, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(armmar @ Mar 11 2015, 11:32 AM)
very good explaination.. tq hanishoney.. tq lowyat

user posted image
may i know that bumper above can attach

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this carrier...
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Please don't simply put infant seats on just any stroller. If you want to put an infant seat into a stroller, it needs to be a stroller DESIGNED to hold the carseat safely. Otherwise, it's no different than putting the infant seat on a supermarket trolley. Can read more about the dangers of putting infant seat in a supermarket trolley here: http://thecarseatlady.com/shoppingcart/

Personally, I think infant seats are a waste of money. Just buy a convertible seat straight away, and keep it in the car all the time. Take the baby out and put directly in the stroller, or even wear your baby and do without stroller.
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post Mar 12 2015, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(armmar @ Mar 12 2015, 05:10 PM)
tq bro.. i oso wait for clarification.. this oso new info for me..

so may i know the certified local brand that have r44 certification
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Carseat certification is applied to individual carseats, not to the brand. Every new design has to go through its own crash test, not simply get certification because the company made it. So for example, Sweet Cherry could have 10 different carseats, but some of them could be ECE R44 certified, and some of them are not. Certification DOES make the carseat price higher, because it costs money to get the carseat crash tested and certified.

If you're looking specifically at a European certified seat, it will have the ECE R44 or i-Size sticker. More information on the sticker here: http://www.maxi-cosi.com/products/car-seat...val-labels.aspx. For American carseats, the sticker will mention the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards and will say it is certified in RED wording.
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post Mar 14 2015, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(armmar @ Mar 14 2015, 09:22 AM)
tq bro for ur explainantion.. proud of u.. now i hv some knowledge about the carseat than before. hehe r u engineer in car seat manufacturer..hehe
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No, I'm not an engineer in carseat manufacturing. I'm a mother who knows how to google. LoL
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post Mar 18 2015, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(periwater @ Mar 18 2015, 01:06 AM)
Thanks a lot, I just purchased Graco Comfort Sport as my spare car seat. Generally all worked well, except that the rear facing is quite upright. My 6 months old LO seems to be more comfortable with the earlier car seat, Halford Solaris (a gift from relative). Unfortunately it has no isofix and my DH hates to install the car seat ( took longer and more tedious). He loves his car, therefore will take out the car seats from the car each time after using them. So an isofix car seat will be most convenient.
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To correct the angle of rear-facing carseats (ONLY rear-facing NEVER front-facing), do read http://www.carseatsite.com/reclineangle.htm. You can use a tightly rolled-up towel OR pool noodles. Since your husband wants to take out and put in every time, better to use a pool noodle. Can buy a loooooong one from Toys R Us and cut to the width of how far apart your car's ISOFIX tethers are.

What car(s) are you installing your Graco and your Halford in? Middle seat, behind driver or behind passenger? Have you tried the front-facing installation yet, or does your review apply only to rear-facing? How many inches is lost to push back the front seat when you install the carseats rear-facing behind a front seat? How easy is it for someone to buckle up beside your installed carseats when rear-facing OR when front-facing?

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post Mar 18 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Mar 17 2015, 07:13 PM)
Just bought Chicco NextFit Convertinle car seat for my daughter as shes outgrown her infant carrier

I am really happy with the car seat as it is very easy to install using the ISOFIX/LATCH system.. Read a lot of good review about this car seat.. the quality is also there and my daughter love sitting in it

Actually was torn in between Maxi Cosi Pria and Chicco NextFit but since I couldnt find shop with ready stock Maxi Cosi Pria so decided to buy Chicco
Glad i choose Chicco
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What car are you installing the Chicco NextFit in? Rear-facing or front-facing? Middle seat, behind driver or behind passenger? How many inches is lost to push back the front seat when you install the NextFit rear-facing behind a front seat? How easy is it for someone to buckle up beside your installed Chicco NextFit when rear-facing OR when front-facing?

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post Mar 18 2015, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Mar 18 2015, 10:44 AM)
Whatever the seat you're buying, make sure you get to test fit it in your car. Graco seats usually are huge and won't fit comfortably on contoured seats.

Not all cars are built the same either. Myvi rear bench seats are flat whereas seats in a Nissan are slightly rounded. Larger seats may not comfortably sit on a shaped seat.

So back to my point, when buying a seat, buy from a shop that'll let you test fit it first. Prices don't differ too much from shopping centers and fairs anyway.
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I totally agree that the car makes a difference. That's why I keep asking when people give their feedback on carseats, PLEASE mention what car(s) you're using your carseat with.
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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Mar 18 2015, 01:14 PM)
I'm using the car seat in a Kia Cerato with LATCH/ISOFIX attachment
Currently using front-facing configuration, behind passenger seat. The seat fits snuggly and it was very easy to install!

Car Seat
- Chicco NextFit Convertible Car Seat (from 0-6 years old)

Price
- RM1299.90

What car are you installing the Chicco NextFit in?
- Kia Cerato K3 (C-Segment)

Rear-facing or front-facing?
-currently trying front-facing, as my daughter already 18 months old and 11kg

Middle seat, behind driver or behind passenger?
-Behind passenger, as this is the best place to have a better view and access to the car seat from the front is she needs anything from me

How many inches is lost to push back the front seat when you install the NextFit rear-facing behind a front seat?
- Not sure how many inches, but i need to adjust the passenger seat 1 notch to the front compared to front-facing but still there's plenty of legroom for passenger. That is for fully-recline-rear-facing. As u can see in the last picture is the space for front passenger seat position for fully-recline-rear-facing and i still have lots of legroom. I'm 172cm by the way.

How easy is it for someone to buckle up beside your installed Chicco NextFit when rear-facing OR when front-facing?
-Havent tested yet but i think it's not gonna be a problem since the seat is not that bulky

Overall i'm very happy with the car seat as it has 9 recline adjustment, bubble level for accurate recline adjustment, supercinch adjustment for tightening the latch (read that adjusting latch is really tedious), comfortable seat and material, no-rethread headrest adjustment, clear instruction, great color, very stylish design, and a cupholder!

Eventhough at first i was looking for a fix-base ISOFIX car seat, i discover that it can only be use with front-facing configuration whereas rear-facing still need to use seatbelt. Maxi-Cosi Milofix offers rear-facing using ISOFIX but the process of needing to rotate the seat on the base looks troublesome since the seat is heavy. So after that I'm looking for car seat that comes with LATCH because the flexibility it offers, just need to switch the LATCH belt from rear or forward facing configuration which is much easier.
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post Mar 18 2015, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(triad @ Mar 18 2015, 04:32 PM)
Same as me, he still love it until now. he is 5 btw.

Bought around 600++ freaking expensive items in malaysia. If you have fren, try to bought from oversea
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5 year old?! In a Combi Coccoro? Your 5yo must be quite short!

QUOTE(http://carseatblog.com/1750/combi-coccoro-review/)
The seat is outgrown rear facing by weight at 33 lbs and by height when the child’s head is 1” from the top of the shell.
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It is outgrown forward facing by weight at 40 lbs or by height when either the tops of the child’s ears are above the top of the shell or the child’s shoulders are above the top harness position.
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post Mar 19 2015, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(Dage @ Mar 18 2015, 09:31 PM)
Has anyone used Sparco before? it cost about 600, i seen a few people use it, just not sure if it's good. any advice please？

i am considering sparco RM600 or joie stages RM900
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What car will you be installing your carseat in? I just read a blog that claims that Proton Saga seatbelt is too short to install joie stages rear-facing: http://pet9.blogspot.com/2013/04/joie-stages.html, but the blog didn't clarify whether old Saga or new Saga.
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