sonax is a very established brand from Germany. dont think you can go wrong with it

check out http://www.sonax.my/ for more info.

anything to recommend from sonax? damn.. is this called self poisoning?

wow.. 2 ppl recommending the wheel cleaner. on la.. i'll give it a shot.. my Meg's gold class wheel cleaner is finishing anyway.

the more the merrier... i think.. what happened to MyWifeCar dont want to join?

hey there.. you can buy DG online

i'm a Meg user as well.. What i do is to wash, clay (if needed) and wax my car every 2 months. During my weekly washes i alternate between UQD and UQW as top ups

Machine hands on session with bro Krismas
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Date: 01/05/2013 (Wednesday)
Time: TBD
Venue: TBD
Confirmed machines: Bosch ROB, Megs G220, Ultramate DA (DAS6 Pro), DeWalt 849X Rotary, Rupes LHR15 ES aka Bigfoot
Still arranging to get: Flex XC 3401 VRG, Bosch Rotary

Those interested, please put down your name:

1) mav3rick.. aka Ivan
2) acefreakz aka Solid
3) Quazacolt aka Jason
4) CoffeeDude aka Ben
5) Lacus
6) zgerm aka Michael
7) adihassan (50/50)



ok 7 so far. bro krismas, is that a good number? Do you have a suitable or recommended location?

in Meg's Ultimate range, there are 2 LSP products:

Ultimate Wax
There are 2 types. One in liquid form (ULW) and one in paste form (UPW), but essentially, both are the same. Just in different form of presentation I'm using the liquid version. I've read some comments that the paste one is much better because the liquid one has streaking problems. But no such problem for me though

Ultimate Quik Wax
This product has a different formulation from the one above. It is not as durable hence a good product to use during your weekly washes to extend your wax protection.

thanks for the feedback.. wanted to order both from UltimateShine, but no stock for both products and UltimateShine no longer brings in Opt stuff.. hmm.. where else can i find these products?

ok guys.. this is the last updated list:


Date: 01/05/2013 (Wednesday)
Time: TBD
Venue: TBD
Confirmed machines: Bosch ROB, Megs G220, Ultramate DA (DAS6 Pro), DeWalt 849X Rotary, Rupes LHR15 ES aka Bigfoot
Still arranging to get: Flex XC 3401 VRG, Bosch Rotary

Those interested, please put down your name:

1) mav3rick.. aka Ivan
2) acefreakz aka Solid
3) Quazacolt aka Jason
4) CoffeeDude aka Ben
5) Lacus
6) zgerm aka Michael
7) adihassan (50/50)
8) lonewolf.


we're 2 days away and i suggest we nail down the time by today.. i think its best if we accommodate our sifu

so guys.. do we have a time and place?? its tomorrow...

Ok la.. i try to come for breakfast as well!

i got a problem.. how do i recognize the sifu??

ok guys.. i'll try to make it for breakfast at 9:30.. see you all tomorrow..

hey guys!!

great meetup yesterday! thanks again to bro KrisMas for organizing the session, providing the tools as well as the guidance. thank you so much for educating newbies like me. you have given me more insight on polishing tools. i believe now i can make a more informed decision.

as for the rest of you guys, great to finally be able to meet up with you all face to face. hopefully we can have more of meetups in future!

anyway.. adding to the infor provided by lonewolf:
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showt...polishing-tools

good reading. but bro KrisMas has already covered most of it yesterday

please count me in on the WB group buy i can't stand the sonax wheel cleaner smell.. makes my Ultimate Protectant smell heavenly!!

i managed to try out the OCW sample that was provided to me by Bro KrisMas. The only other spray wax that i've used is Meg's UQW. So i'm only able to do a premature comparison between these 2.

What i liked about OCW is that it is easy to use, just like the UQW, its just mist and wipe off. Streaking will be present if you use too much, so do not overspray. 2-3 sprays should cover one door panel. It also does not whiten trim. In fact it darkens the trim. I like this effect. Not able to see durability results yet

to be honest, i prefer the gloss and 'darkening' of the paint effect of the UQW. But i'm willing to trade that for more durability.

oh ya, i noticed that OCW has some larger white particles which are quite noticeable when sprayed on the paint surface. no biggie though, easily wiped off.

This post has been edited by mav3rick: May 5 2013, 04:14 PM

That is the standard market price for QD and UQD bro. Cheap would be a 15 or 20% discount on top of it sadly i think the last promo just ended.. lucky i managed to stock up on UQD and UQW

here's my 2nd post on OCW. As you may have remembered, I've used OCW on 4th May. During the course of the week, there has been some pretty drastic weather changes. From hot and humid to sudden thunderstorms. Not too sure if these conditions are perfect for testing out the durability. So here's my observation:

Noticed good beading when it rains. Personally still prefer the more uniform beading of UQD/UQW but the beading shown here is pretty good as well. As the week progressed, the beading was still noticeable, but slightly deteriorating at the flat panels although it was still going strong on the side panel. Washed my car with NXT car wash (2 ounce to 2.5 gallons of water, added more water as i was worried that it will remove the OCW ), yesterday and found the same. beading on flat panels have deteriorated slightly, although still noticeable. The smooth texture you get when you first apply the wax is all but gone. But the shine on the paint as well as the darkening of the rubber/plastic trims are still very much noticeable. I've not topped it up with more OCW after the wash. Will report more as the week progresses.

like this?

i'm staying at condo as well, and there is only one small area for car wash and its always packed during weekends. Some blardy owners even park their cars there at 6:00 am and get their maids to wash it.. end up i wash my car when i go back to my hometown during weekends. but i may run out of that option soon as i'll be getting busier by mid year. so i too am on the lookout for a rinseless wash..