QUOTE(Broadica @ Jul 13 2013, 12:46 PM)
thanks. i'm flattered if you think i'm pro...
but boy, keep you ego ok?
u talk with ego like this is and show off ur friend this 15k that 25k... then you no need come here for advice. go ask your friend. this is how people gonna bash and reply you if u talk like this. and i definitely use the same word again.
in my humble opinion.. u are bull shiting with ego.
your comparison isnt fair at all by comparing totally different breed of bike and with different spec to start with... more like comparing weight weenies see who lightest and which more expensive.... so what ur friend bike 25k... if you have money to splurge then splurge at ur own expense not come and ego here ego there. Seriousness in XC are not measure by weight and money alone... thats make another point of you bullshitting around saying serious xc rider would not buy hope hub. so obviously you are skewed and very materialistic minded. hope may not be expensive to you.. it is to some. so cut ur ego here again.. ok? lots of serious xc rider use hope here.
if you buy a similar specced bike and compare apple to apple like Alu XTC 26 and Alu XTC 29 with all other parts similar component... except different rim size and different fork but the same model. you dont need additional 5k to built it. they would cost about the same. and weight close with minor different.
simple question and you go viral over your ego showing off talking bout ur friend 15k and 25k bike.. with different type of frame, fork and parts to start with. you tell me that is not bull shit then is what. so be humble and talk like a man! and yes.. a carbon race 29er frame can shave > 600gram compare to that lynskey pro29. go do ur studies
so hold ur ego and dont let it go wild... talking like that not bring you anywhere! ok ? kabish?

man you must be hell of a sensitive fella here to think that I'm bragging abt my friends bike here and there, i was only stating a real life example to explain what you think is bullshit. Instead you can always provide reasonable comments to prove that I am wrong instead of bashing? I am not here to challenge you or anyone, like i said before I was asking for opinions to gaine more knowledges and experiences abt mtbking and parts. Now I agree with you on apple to apple part, I admitted that I made wrong judgement over weight thingy between 26er vs 29er butno choice lar as Im living in a kampung here and I made assumptions (which you said bullshits) based on what i see around me, sry if that offended you in this way yea...anyway we do have c'mmon hobbies after all so most importantly juz enjoy riding and keep sharing!
QUOTE(timothyy @ Jul 13 2013, 12:49 PM)
Aiyo... bike only consists of few components... why so tense about it.
29 and 26ers. The only difference u got is only the chainstay length and fork and wheels.
The rest are mostly the same.
So... back to basic compare apple to apple.
Frame...
At the moment Carbon is the lightest. Depending on brand. I think Scott is one of the lightest with sub 1kg weight.
Usually, a carbon and alu frame will have about 300-500gr diff. Not including those chekai brand.
Fork wise... well, the weight diff is really minimal. Probably less than a hundred or 2. Price wise... also not much diff.
Wheels... U can get similar weight at similar price at similar spec. ZTR is the easiest to compare. Don't talk about hubs or what not... The diff also minimum. U also can get a ZTR wheelset with hope hub for 1.3kg on 29er and as well as 26er.
So... what is the argument here?
25k for a bike? Possible... why not. Coz a carbon wheelset already RM10k. Carbon frame or Ti frame can be from 5k-7k XTR or XX crankset easily 4-5k. Fork 2-3k.
Noted Mr.Timothyy yr comments does make sense after all. Today I learnt something.. Thanks.