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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB v40, Fast, faster, fasterer, fastererer :x

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lhwj
post Mar 9 2013, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 9 2013, 12:37 PM)
jus wan to ask... BLM n FLX which is better? in term of handling n fuel consumption... =D
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FLX pwns the ori BLM in all respects, except for rear wheel arch bitumen protection ph34r.gif

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post Mar 9 2013, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 9 2013, 01:15 PM)
how about fuel consumption? drain like water? coz my fren using BLM said lik drinking water...  blink.gif
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What drink water? That one is right foot and transmission plobrem. Driven properly, BLM can do 20km/L whistling.gif

Seriously, the CVT on the FLX should be a lot more efficient than the old auto gearbox. I'll leave it for the FLXers to comment.


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post Mar 9 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Mar 9 2013, 01:36 PM)
BLM is 2008 technology.
IAFM - 1st generation of Air Fuel Moduel in our local production car, adjust intake length to maximize power output
Uses 16bit Engine Management computer to manage
Manual AchiPockai gear box, ratio too close good for sprint but bad for FC. 4spd automatic GB too heavy for such small engine.
Bestest spec also only 1 airbag. If kosong spec, don't even got color on the bumper, what do you expect? Safety?
Doesn't have USB input, lower spec can't play MP3 at all even on a DISC
Average fuel consumption is 20cents/km for most BLM

FLX is 2011 technology.
IAFM+ - 2nd generation of AFM, much precise on air fuel injection.
Uses 32bit engine management computer to manage, much more precise
Manual GetRag, ratio improved to be more balance with sprint against FC. Auto is no longer fix ratio gearbox, instead it uses puller, they call it CVT from well known PUCNH manufacturer. Getting a CVT will have almost similar fuel consumption as a manual, meaning to say that why trouble your left foot? Unless you enjoy being punish by KL traffic like me.
Even the lowest Standard spec already equipped with 1 airbag.
Despite people say Clarion is rubbish, but I think its quite sufficient especially as a stock head unit. got USB and AUX input, can play MP3 just like any other standard player nowadays.
Average fuel consumption is 17cents/km for heavy footer, and can achieve 13cents/km if drive properly like our representative guguman86

Yes your friend not wrong about BLM drink fuel like water, but don't compare it with FLX(latest model), coz they're using different technology whistling.gif
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Not to mention FLX has a thicker front anti-roll bar and stiffer rear springs so it won't sagat so much doh.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2013, 01:37 PM)
it's OK luke, non FLXers or BLMers can feel free to comment. Like the BLMer below
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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 9 2013, 01:39 PM)
If i wan to get a 2nd hand car should get BLM or FLX? wanna get some comment from u all... thx...  rclxms.gif
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You have no idea how much I wished the FLX was available when I bought my Gaga. Take the FLX, the gearbox alone is good enough reason.

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post Mar 9 2013, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(HafisUN @ Mar 9 2013, 08:17 PM)
My car alarm cant be use today ..
When try to lock the car, it sound just like an error (beep beep beep beep beep beep) ..
checking all the doors, all closed perfectly ..
what is the problem happen here??
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One of the sensors is not functioning properly. Check all four door sensors as well as the boot.
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post Mar 9 2013, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 9 2013, 10:58 PM)
I am still figuring out how many litres a bar represent. From my previous observation using OBD2 scanner,
first bar corresponds to 4.7 litres. so does second bar.
third bar - last bar, I lost count already tongue.gif

will check again later la.

btw, if all bars correspond to 4.7 litres, then 4.7x6=28.2 litres. Declared tank capacity is 40l. some said usable quantity only 32 litres or something. still have 3.8 litres, maybe indicated by blinking bar. maybe
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4.7L per bar is pretty close, because when my warning light comes on I can fit 30L. But the bars are not necessarily equal. For example, my record for my first bar is 124 km but I've never been able to achieve that figure with the other bars, I think coolkwc has touched 145+ before on his first bar too. My last bar, doesn't last more than 30-40 km even when the whole distance is done at 90 km/h non-stop on the highway. And today my third bar dropped at 250 km, when the second bar disappeared at 210 km. This is highly unusual and I was not stuck in any kind of big jam either vmad.gif

My conclusion? Don't pay too much attention to the bars laugh.gif

QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2013, 11:03 PM)
I don't think each bar represents equal amount of fuel.
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QUOTE(animekrazey @ Mar 9 2013, 11:00 PM)
so at 9.6km/l I still have quite a ways more to drive right with a full tank of 40litres. assuming my driving style remains the same.

But the meter reading says only 1 bar left. but when i fill i can't fill past 25 litres without it overflowing.

the car is new so should i get the meter checked or is this normal
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The actual usable amount of fuel from the tank is about 36L, this is the amount you can fill if you drive until you run out of fuel. 1 bar left and can't fill more than 25L? Perfectly normal. The warning comes in when you have about 10L (6L usable) left, so even at 9.6 km/L you still have a good 50 km to go. But do fill up as soon as possible.

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post Mar 9 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2013, 11:09 PM)
My first bar best record was around 98km sleep.gif

4.7l for 124km, wtfbbq 3.7l/100km  shocking.gif
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Seriously sleep.gif The pic was taken just before the first bar dropped rclxms.gif

QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 9 2013, 11:15 PM)
this is realy wtfbbq  rclxms.gif

this might disprove my 4.7l for 1st and 2nd bar theory.
iinm, the fuel level is measured using somekind of floating device, there my be some uncertainties during the reading.
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I don't think my Gaga did 3.7L/100km laugh.gif My friend was driving and this was done after refuelling at Petronas at Ayer Keroh R&R, we then drove back to Damansara but I told my friend to keep it at 90 km/h constant and he did a good job rclxms.gif

I think there's a float connected to a potentiometer and as the fuel level changes the voltage tells the gauge to show how much fuel is left. It could be that the top portion of the tank is not measurable by the potentiometer, so the first bar represents a bigger than average (assuming you fill it to the brim) and the bottom of the fuel tank may be an irregular shape, which explains why my last bar only lasts 30 km rclxub.gif


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post Mar 9 2013, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2013, 11:35 PM)
Saga fuel pump. That black thing at the bottom of the picture, that's your float.

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If the float is connected by that thin wire, it could easily bengkok, causing your fuel readings to go haywire hmm.gif
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post Mar 9 2013, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Mar 9 2013, 11:39 PM)
That's a metal linkage la, not some thin wire  laugh.gif something like those linkages inside your door panel.

Even if it's not really thick, how the heck can it get bent inside the fuel tank  laugh.gif
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Well it looks awfully thin to me. But then again I've never actually seen or handled a fuel tank float tongue.gif

Doing lots of gymkhana will cause the fuel to slosh around and subject the float to extreme forces whistling.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 10 2013, 12:23 AM)
To be honest Saga is slow if u care about FC.

Last time when i 1st bought my BLM, during traffic light turn green, the BLM in front me like a rocket, that time i'm like WTF, why my damn car is so slow. Even my friend 4AT BLM is faster than me when accelerate.
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No wonder all komplen why Gaga FC like drink water whistling.gif

I feel your pain. Driving with 10 inhg vacuum limit for the past two tanks and every time I move off from traffic light always kena cucuk from behind sweat.gif
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post Mar 11 2013, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_kenni @ Mar 11 2013, 04:11 PM)
tapi tengah runsing apa macam nak pasang @_@
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Are you kidding me? I carried all the tools in my glovebox and the moment I received the cable to my office I ran to my car park 500m away and straight away pasang rclxms.gif


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post Mar 11 2013, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Mar 11 2013, 08:59 PM)
if he is OK then have him bring back lar...then i bakar heat shrink n show u when u come to make u jelly  rclxms.gif
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No amount of heatshrink can make me jelly whistling.gif


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post Mar 11 2013, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Mar 11 2013, 09:25 PM)
when u kambing back PG after this?
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The day after
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post Mar 11 2013, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(kokhing520 @ Mar 11 2013, 09:25 PM)
at last someone help to push your car to side way then the car was able to start again..
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post Mar 12 2013, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Mar 12 2013, 07:11 AM)
u confirm ar??? or 2 tank but u never reset the trip meter?  shocking.gif

actually what is the meter sitting on top of the steering column?
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Voltmeter. Standard instrument in YAB fleet vehicle tongue.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Mar 12 2013, 08:27 AM)
i thought ppl always put TURBO timer there...  hmm.gif
had a Pivot TurboTimer in my old ride at that location...
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Your old Satey got 4G63T ahh? laugh.gif

For me I find the below more useful.


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post Mar 12 2013, 04:17 PM

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Drove the whole way, nice and sunny.

The moment reach KL, thunderstorm and rain doh.gif
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post Mar 12 2013, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Mar 12 2013, 09:05 PM)
if u trust me, can u pass the LCP to luke also? i test n if not OK i return u when u come  whistling.gif
if OK i pay u CASH  brows.gif
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Yiu never met me before how yiu noe I wun curi LCP and pasang on my own Gaga? icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 13 2013, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(billy520 @ Mar 12 2013, 09:45 PM)
yiu curi yiu pay lor~  nod.gif
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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Mar 13 2013, 11:19 AM)
hahaha... me too
recently drive too much of biba, yesterday i drive gaga and going to turn left
was stunned for 2-3sec and suddenly cant remember gaga signal stick at left or right side  doh.gif
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I drove YAB's Sawi yesterday.

The moment I touched the controls, rear wiper activated laugh.gif
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Last night I told YAB I wanted to try Petron, cos N/A in Penang. So we filled up my Gaga with that.

This is what I achieved tonight on the way home sleep.gif.

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