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 Nokia Lumia 720, Same huge battery as Lumia 920!

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Fhaarkas
post Jul 21 2013, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jul 21 2013, 12:13 AM)
Plus any of you know how to set custom DNS on our Lumia 720? Cuz under Wifi>Setting>*Network Name* the only available option for me is to change Proxy but not the DNS Servers. :/
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I don't think that's possible unless there's a way to jailbreak the phone, so your best bet is probably to set them in the router.
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post Aug 12 2013, 10:24 PM

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Is it rolled out? Time to force update? tongue.gif
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post Aug 13 2013, 11:46 AM

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Anybody found a way to force update yet?

Because...
https://tuananhict.wordpress.com/2013/08/07...device-ram-512/

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post Sep 4 2013, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(trapezohedron13 @ Sep 4 2013, 11:47 AM)
any feedback from other lumia 720 users..?
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Have you tried taking pics with other apps like Camera360 or something? In any case, RMA that thing.
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post Sep 4 2013, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(trapezohedron13 @ Sep 4 2013, 02:45 PM)
Tried panaroma, glam me, 6tag. all same. changed aspect ratio, tried some different combination of settings. same problem. Yeah guess have to return it to service centre to get it rectified. Anyone have experience with Nokia care centre? how is their service, etc?

Fhaarkas/others, can share sample pictures from your default camera app picture for comparison purpose?
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I don't use the default cam and these are taken with ProShot, but I think it's safe to say that your camera is borked.
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2013_08_11_09_12_14_ProShot by Fhaarkas, on Flickr
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2013_05_26_19_23_24_ProShot by Fhaarkas, on Flickr
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2013_08_09_12_39_20_ProShot by Fhaarkas, on Flickr

My unit is actually corrupt as well, but it's just the common crash/reboot/hardlock/SD card problem and in rare occasions the display goes all stripey or the camera goes green. Haven't got around to taking it to Nokia Care yet.
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post Sep 4 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(trapezohedron13 @ Sep 4 2013, 03:25 PM)
Wow, nice shots you got there! The colours are way crispier than mine. Do you have one with normal shot/landscape faraway object? Since your focus is the middle, macro shot, the edges are indeed out of focus but doesnt look washed out like mine though.

EDIT: third pic - the ants one - mine has some ghosting effect like at the top right corner shot. I'm not sure if that's due to out of focus or other factor.
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The "blurred" edge is common with Lumia line and it's even more noticeable on 720 because of very shallow DOF from F1.9. So in a 16:9 shot you'll probably have something around 15% blurred part from each edge.
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2013_06_08_19_57_50_ProShot by Fhaarkas, on Flickr

See how the center is crispier while both edges have some sort of "zoomed" blur. Same thing with the ant pic. It's chromatic aberration.

I just went ahead and took a picture with the default cam. I think yours is pretty normal. Probably just your settings although your blurring does look a bit too much. I thought it was your rear cam with purplish hue lol.
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WP_20130904_005 by Fhaarkas, on Flickr

As for front cam, it get that purplish hue in mine when there's a lot of light from behind e.g. when cam is facing the sun etc. Can't say if it's normal in your case. It shouldn't be present all the time.
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post Sep 4 2013, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(trapezohedron13 @ Sep 4 2013, 05:12 PM)
Thanks Fhaarkas! Your second pic is really like my cam problem!

Ahh, so it's DOF problem. Your pic snapping skills are great! Mine like tahi ayam... haha. If it's normal, then i can rest my mind. Will probably test kaw kaw with various shots over the week for further study and also compare with Lumia 520's lens.

Now about the front camera, don't mind to see if your image flickers, especially in indoor with artificial lightning conditions? For outdoors it performs flawlessly, only indoor it's poor. Plus the purple hue... sedihnya tengok
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Yeah I think mine also behaves like that, though I almost never use the front cam so I wouldn't know if that's faulty behaviour or not lol. I'm guessing the front cam just sucks.
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post Sep 4 2013, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(trapezohedron13 @ Sep 4 2013, 08:32 PM)
Oh well. So should i bring it to nokia care center? Backing up my stuffs now... heh. The rear camera blurry edges really spoil my day. Otherwise it's a perfect phone...
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If you can't get a second opinion from somebody whose phone isn't faulty than I say go ahead. As for DOF problem, using 4:3 AR somewhat alleviates it (because FOV is not as wide).

The RM6.50 option would be to use ProShot. Not sure if it makes any difference but I seriously have never noticed this problem until now. Not as bad at least. E.g. in the sunset shot above it's hard to tell if there's any blurring, even at full resolution.
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2013_08_31_18_48_49_ProShot by Fhaarkas, on Flickr
Like this shot - you can only notice the blurring at corners and barely at the edges (this is a bad case). The way it is in your pictures it's affecting more like 25% of each side, leaving only 50% usable shot at the middle; as if zoom-blurred in Photoshop.

If you photograph a lot, I recommend giving it a shot and judge for yourself. Not sure if there's a trial though.

@L520 - the problem is probably less prominent, seeing that it uses F2.4 lens. Same case with other models which mostly use F2.2-F2.4 lenses.
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post Sep 4 2013, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(trapezohedron13 @ Sep 4 2013, 10:05 PM)
I tried ProShot, good thing there's trial version - cannot save picture but i can review the recent picture that i take. Still the same blurring. Seems like your shots also have the blurring, though it is significantly better than mine.

Here's a comparison shot between 720 and 520: no points guessing which one is 720 and which is 520... tongue.gif

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Now, i just hope the technicians will accept the reasoning and not tell me that lumia 720 is like that wan.  hmm.gif
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All Lumias suffer from this blurring actually, even L1020. sweat.gif Though like I said, it's probably worse on L720 because of the F1.9 lens it uses. But then I'm not an expert on this stuff so yeah.

But the CA in yours is pretty bad (look at the trunk at the top left, it shouldn't be that bad that far into the pic). Maybe you wanna install HD Photo Viewer app to zoom in to 100% when showing the problem to Nokia.
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post Sep 6 2013, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Sep 6 2013, 03:00 AM)
way bro mind share how u take the first 2 shots? What settings u used. Really amazing shots there.
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Thanks. notworthy.gif Not sure if my exif is public. Still trying to get a hang on Flickr lol.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84764600@N03/9668087085/meta/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84764600@N03/9668093997/meta/

As mentioned, I use ProShot since the stock app is severely lacking in options and it looks like they want you to use lenses unlike how it was in WP7.

Using ISO 100 helps with keeping details as much possible since at higher values Nokia's algorithm tend to over-compensate and sharpness/details are lost, even if you can remove the noise in post-process. Obviously this is not always feasible, especially when dealing with low-light and moving objects. If you have one of those Gorilla tripod, it'll help a lot with taking night landscape since max shutter in ProShot is 4 sec. I don't have one, so I often have to settle with higher ISO.

I usually play around with Saturation and Contrast to get the mood I'm looking for. As for macro shots like the grass one, I use manual focus - usually at 5-10%. Nice bokeh. thumbup.gif I tend to under-expose my shots too, especially sunset/rise shots. Like the one above, I set the EV to -2 to keep highlight clipping as low as possible. For normal use, it usually hovers around -0.3 to -1. Hope that helps.

Lastly I'm just an amateur with no technical background unlike some of the gurus here so if you're looking for pro tips, you're probably better off asking them haha. sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(smudge @ Sep 6 2013, 06:44 PM)
hiya mates,since current topic/discussion seems to on photos/camera. just curious asking for everyones opinion. is it worth it to buy proshot on our lumia based on it hardware(camera) limitations/capabilities??
gatal want to buy,but not sure will help on pic quality/shots due to my sucky picture taking skillsĀ  tongue.gif
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Currently I think there's a way to install Pro Cam on 512MB devices but you'll need Amber/GDR2 update for it to work. I have no experience with Pro Cam yet but from what I can see it's probably very similar in function with ProShot so you may want to hold your breath before spending any money on ProShot. ProShot does have some niceties though, like full-res timelapse function, real-time histogram, real-time level and grids but IMO they're just extras.

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post Sep 6 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Sep 6 2013, 09:07 PM)
nice biggrin.gif haha I also new usually using stock camera nia always thinking how to thinker with ISO and other settings cuz the stock camera as u mentioned lack alot of settings. doh.gif
At least a guideline how to take macro shots now. U bought the app eh?? biggrin.gif
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Yeah I think I bought without actually trying lol but that was long ago. The UI is kinda clunky but the dev is very active, always updating his app with new features and fixes. If you're not fussy with RM6+ then I say just go ahead and buy it. Be warned though if you're planning to install Pro Cam then a lot of ProShot functions are redundant.

If you wanna play around with manual focus, Camera360 has it too but I'm not sure if it takes full res pictures. I don't use it since it's got a lot of baggage like filters and library that I don't need.
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post Sep 7 2013, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Sep 7 2013, 12:05 AM)
use before 360 but not much option too. ProShot and ProCam diff? o_O why u say if intall Pro Cam ProShot redundant? I dun mind spending on quality app ^^
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ProShot's main use (for me) is unlocking manual shutter speed and focus, both of which are available in Nokia Pro Cam. Installing Pro Cam on 512MB devices requires a bit of 'hacking' with mixed results from what I can gather though, so if that's not your kind of stuff ProShot is your next best thing and it is still the only legit way.

I'll just list ProShot features here. Bold ones are features that I know also in Pro Cam. Non-bold doesn't mean it isn't there, just not sure because I've never used Pro Cam. Features listed under drive modes and display are probably exclusive, except for grid lines -
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EDIT: Important - there's no video recording with ProShot (yet). Bracketing is high on the to-do list.

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post Sep 10 2013, 10:11 AM

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Woot great news. Doesn't feel like starting over though so I'll just wait I guess. tongue.gif
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post Sep 11 2013, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 11 2013, 05:06 PM)
may i know what app is this.

I checked Camera app but dont have manual function
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This is ProShot.
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post Sep 11 2013, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 11 2013, 05:44 PM)
Thanks.

Wow nice app but the cost is RM6.50
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Yeah it's a great app, though in no way is a 'fun' app like Lomogram, C360 etc. Its UI can be done better IMO but the developer is very active and responsive (there's probably a UI overhaul coming in light of Pro Camera being released). If you're into mobile photography and not too fond of dealing with Pro Camera (from feedback it sounds like Pro Cam doesn't run very well on devices it's not intended to run in), I can't recommend it enough. If you're only looking for manual focus, Camera360 has it as well.
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post Sep 12 2013, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Sep 12 2013, 10:10 AM)
Nah i hate that kinda of 'fun' app. Hahah.

I have some knowledge in manual setting photography and i believe this app worth the money based on what you have said biggrin.gif
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Hey don't take my words for it (but you can take those stars it has over at Store biggrin.gif ). Also remember there is no video recording with this, and it doesn't support L1020's 38MP yet.

QUOTE(trapezohedron13 @ Sep 12 2013, 11:03 AM)
Sent for second repair. Nokia Care centre updated me telling me that those problems are normal. The purple hue and camera images blur at the edges. How do I convince them that it is indeed worse than expected? The blurring is really unbearable.

More images: Normal or screwed up lens?
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Doesn't look normal. Seriously. shakehead.gif Maybe you should show them how the actual _normal_ pictures look.

 

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